Dp 13/14 sale

 
  abtrail Station Master

Location: west coast wilderness railway
does anybody know if sold yet and to where

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  Z1NorthernProgress2110 Chief Commissioner

Location: Burnie, Tasmania
Nope, not sold. Still minor hiccup over the insurance on DP13
  abtrail Station Master

Location: west coast wilderness railway
thanks mate                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
  abtrail Station Master

Location: west coast wilderness railway
dp 13 read today going to god hopeful someone will save
  Electric C Junior Train Controller

Location: The Shed - land of junk, smoke and wonder
yes should be! we would be VERY stupid to let it go
  Z1NorthernProgress2110 Chief Commissioner

Location: Burnie, Tasmania
In today's paper, now there is talk of giving it to a heritage railway or scrap it.
  Amraks Junior Train Controller

someone please save it.

wish there was a way of setting up a rail tour on the west of burnie line Smile
  Electric C Junior Train Controller

Location: The Shed - land of junk, smoke and wonder
Ok it's been sold to a Queensland group (they can get there smeg own stuff) the last chance we have to save this is to contact Rene Hiddings he has taken a serious interest in it, simply contact his office and register a complaint let's keep this railcar in the state! (I'm sure other liberal members know but Rene is best with several complaints from around the state registered with him)
  grrr17 Deputy Commissioner

Ok it's been sold to a Queensland group (they can get there smeg own stuff) the last chance we have to save this is to contact Rene Hiddings he has taken a serious interest in it, simply contact his office and register a complaint let's keep this railcar in the state! (I'm sure other liberal members know but Rene is best with several complaints from around the state registered with him)
Electric C
Which group got them?
  Electric C Junior Train Controller

Location: The Shed - land of junk, smoke and wonder
I can't find a link the one that got the "suncoaster" (I think that's it) carriages, but we really need to work on keeping them here, as BCC has only chased the best price ignoring there tourism, historical and cultural value of it!
  Electric C Junior Train Controller

Location: The Shed - land of junk, smoke and wonder
That's the one! It will only be sad of we let them go!
  Floody Locomotive Driver

They had the money and deployed it. End story.
  grrr17 Deputy Commissioner

They had the money and deployed it. End story.
Floody
Doesn't make it right, nor necessarily the end of the story, at a very long stretch, if the right buttons could be pushed, as suggested by Electric C.
  Electric C Junior Train Controller

Location: The Shed - land of junk, smoke and wonder
Yes floody they had the money but if rail heritage or all heritage came to a monetary valve, don and derwent would be closed DTT wouldn't exist all our buildings would be ghastly modern boxes and I would along with many others scrap our 30+ years old cars! Unfortunately BCC has followed the money route (I bet they would of scrapped it if that was the best price) and we can't let something like that go!
  qredge Deputy Commissioner

Location: Marsden Qld
Isn't it better that it has been saved rather than where it has been saved?
If I want a ride on a QGR steamer the most regular place now is Victoria but at least I still can
You will just have to holiday in QLD and have a ride on the DP in the beautiful warm climate here which will probably be more enjoyable anyway Smile
  Electric C Junior Train Controller

Location: The Shed - land of junk, smoke and wonder
They can be saved here too BCC all gave us stupid prices (200,000 plus!) none of the groups here could possibly afford that so out to tender they went, but we was still/are trying to save them here and since 13 was our last passenger vehicle in service (nearly by 20 years, everything else was withdrawn in the late 70's) this is why I want it here still! I also think in this day and age to take historical rail equipment from one state to another should be bared
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

They can be saved here too BCC all gave us stupid prices (200,000 plus!) none of the groups here could possibly afford that so out to tender they went, but we was still/are trying to save them here and since 13 was our last passenger vehicle in service (nearly by 20 years, everything else was withdrawn in the late 70's) this is why I want it here still! I also think in this day and age to take historical rail equipment from one state to another should be bared
"Electric C"


Does that mean Queensland can get all those English Electrics and Clydes back then? The group that has bought these rail motors is not loaded with cash, if they could afford them then a Tasmanian group could have too...if they really wanted them, and that's what it boils down to.
  Z1NorthernProgress2110 Chief Commissioner

Location: Burnie, Tasmania
AFAIK they only got DP13. DP13 needs over $200,000 on just rebuilding her. DP14 and PT5 aren't sold as of yet.
  Z1NorthernProgress2110 Chief Commissioner

Location: Burnie, Tasmania
if they could afford them then a Tasmanian group could have too...if they really wanted them, and that's what it boils down to.
Sulla1
My findings into this has found that any Tasmanian rail heritage group never got a look in on burnt out DP13. Rumors abound that the council looked more to other out of Tasmania groups cause of the money they could get. I'm not sure if that's the truth or not.
  Electric C Junior Train Controller

Location: The Shed - land of junk, smoke and wonder
Does that mean Queensland can get all those English Electrics and Clydes back then?
Sulla1
well they aren't in preservation but when there time comes up (soon for the ee's) I couldn't see a problem with Queensland groups being interested as they are their history as well as ours. The railcar is simply a vehicle, having no history in Queensland but being a very important one here.

Sulla1 wrote:if they could afford them then a Tasmanian group could have too...if they really wanted them, and that's what it boils down to.



Not really, as Z1NorthenProgress2110 said one group got a little look in but along with the other groups ran at the price. Also it wasn't just rail groups interested there was a millionaire down here that was interested who had them valued, offed a very nice sum (60,000 plus) and still no dice it seems the council just wanted to get them out of the state, witch hopefully wont happen as I'm digging more in to this its all a bit sus! (not downs steam, they simply may of thought no one wanted it!)
  grrr17 Deputy Commissioner

Does that mean Queensland can get all those English Electrics and Clydes back then? The group that has bought these rail motors is not loaded with cash, if they could afford them then a Tasmanian group could have too...if they really wanted them, and that's what it boils down to.
Sulla1
Have you seen the circumstances which Tasmanian groups had forced upon them in recent years? Their finances have been hit very hard by either not able to operate on the main line, if at all.

I don't really have an issue with things leaving the states they are most associated with, especially when there is plenty of surplus examples, such as the departures of M2 and M6, however in this case these rail cars are both significant, especially as Electric C stated in the case of DP13, and they are exceptionally useful, the proposal to have them run on a section of the Derwent Valley line would have been a financial godsend for the DVR, and others such as the DRR or even DTT could also have gotten great use out of them, it can be guaranteed that Tasmanian groups really did want them. The financial and operational benefits, along with the historical value, which would outweigh those to any outside buyers, especially given the aforementioned circumstances of Tasmanian groups.
  Electric C Junior Train Controller

Location: The Shed - land of junk, smoke and wonder
Very well said grr17 you hit the nail on the head hopefully you have lodged your complaint !
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Have you seen the circumstances which Tasmanian groups had forced upon them in recent years? Their finances have been hit very hard by either not able to operate on the main line, if at all.

I don't really have an issue with things leaving the states they are most associated with, especially when there is plenty of surplus examples, such as the departures of M2 and M6, however in this case these rail cars are both significant, especially as Electric C stated in the case of DP13, and they are exceptionally useful, the proposal to have them run on a section of the Derwent Valley line would have been a financial godsend for the DVR, and others such as the DRR or even DTT could also have gotten great use out of them, it can be guaranteed that Tasmanian groups really did want them. The financial and operational benefits, along with the historical value, which would outweigh those to any outside buyers, especially given the aforementioned circumstances of Tasmanian groups.
grrr17


Sigh...one hundred and twelve years of Federation and we're still debating state rights. The preservation scene in Queensland is just as tough as Tasmania. Two groups are currently teetering on the brink, and only two are currently operating with any access to the QR network (and one of these has just broken their only engine). The group who have purchased the railmotor aren't running trains at all. Whatever cash they have scraped together among their volunteers is the same colour as any cash that someone could have tried scraping together in Tasmania. And considering QR are about to sell one hundred-ish carriages in this country's last great narrow gauge passenger car sale, I'm not sure it's helpful 'closing the borders' to interstate groups who may end up with assets Tasmanian groups will find useful in the future...
  Electric C Junior Train Controller

Location: The Shed - land of junk, smoke and wonder
Sigh...one hundred and twelve years of Federation and we're still debating state rights. The preservation scene in Queensland is just as tough as Tasmania. Two groups are currently teetering on the brink, and only two are currently operating with any access to the QR network (and one of these has just broken their only engine). The group who have purchased the railmotor aren't running trains at all. Whatever cash they have scraped together among their volunteers is the same colour as any cash that someone could have tried scraping together in Tasmania. And considering QR are about to sell about one hundred carriages in one of the county's last great narrow gauge passenger car sales I'm not sure it's helpful 'closing the borders' to interstate groups who may end up with assets that Tasmanian groups will find useful in the future...
Sulla1
True, but it wasn't honestly offered to us we could of scraped the money together (well not the large price tag they had) but as for stuff that is coming up for preservation i think thats fine and i was fine with the 11 and 10 class leaving (well one 11 would of been nice and swap 1002 for 1004) and the EE's coming up I'd even email/send photos do some ground work to help get them up back up north. But this i am not happy with as we have no more local passenger stock available (and honestly never will) a rail car would go along way with DTT also a new group not running trains or having a shed! (and again no chance to buy local stock) or DRR can use it and finally give there railcar (DP 22) a long deserved overhaul so I'm happy for stuff coming up for preservation to go else where but something like this that is already preserved, has great historical value to the state and can be well used (hopefully) in its home state should stay in its home state.

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