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      jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

    Location: Near Caulfield Station
    Since there now seems to be yet another new livery for trams being used in line with a system-wide corporate makeover, I thought it might be interesting to start listing trams that are appearing in the new livery.

    Trams wearing the new PT> livery (according to the VicSig rollingstock lists) are:

    E.6001
    E.6002

    Z3.123 - (I spotted this one today on Route 3)
    Z3.184
    Z3.211
    Z3.229
    Posted: 23 Aug 2013 14:25

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      Chrono Detector Assistant Commissioner

    Location: Tram 57/59
    Yarra Trams posted this on their Facebook page:

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=529545163783795&set=a.146311928773789.36912.140029086068740&type=1&theater

    About time too they are finally applying the livery on the rest of the Z3 trams, doubt it they will apply it on the Z1s and Z2's as most likely they are going to be withdrawn soon. Because most of the Z3 trams that have the MK2 or MK3 livery looks faded and horrible and it was long overdue that their livery had to be reapplied.
    Posted: 23 Aug 2013 14:55
      Polar Tiger Chief Commissioner

    Location: FL390
    Z 139 now in PT> livery.
    Posted: 30 Aug 2013 16:32
      jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

    Location: Near Caulfield Station
    An updated list:

    D2.5001 - Looking very smart: http://www.vicsig.net/photo/17404

    E.6001
    E.6002
    E.6003
    E.6004 - http://www.vicsig.net/photo/17399

    Z3.123
    Z3.126
    Z3.131
    Z3.139
    Z3.159
    Z3.167
    Z3.184
    Z3.198
    Z3.211
    Z3.223
    Z3.225
    Z3.229
    Posted: 28 Nov 2013 12:55
      railblogger Chief Commissioner

    Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
    An updated list:

    D2.5001 - Looking very smart: http://www.vicsig.net/photo/17404

    E.6001
    E.6002
    E.6003
    E.6004 - http://www.vicsig.net/photo/17399

    Z3.123
    Z3.126
    Z3.131
    Z3.139
    Z3.159
    Z3.167
    Z3.184
    Z3.198
    Z3.211
    Z3.223
    Z3.225
    Z3.229
    jdekorte
    Apparently E.6005 has now been delivered. I'd assume this is wearing the PT> livery??
    Posted: 28 Nov 2013 13:06
      Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

    Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
    Are all trams going to be eventually put into this livery, or is it just trams that remain in the older tattier liveries?
    Posted: 28 Nov 2013 14:03
      railblogger Chief Commissioner

    Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
    Are all trams going to be eventually put into this livery, or is it just trams that remain in the older tattier liveries?
    Gman_86
    My guess is that every tram that's not going to be retired anytime soon will be getting this livery.
    Posted: 28 Nov 2013 15:20
      jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

    Location: Near Caulfield Station
    Apparently E.6005 has now been delivered. I'd assume this is wearing the PT> livery??
    railblogger
    I haven't seen anything to confirm that E.6005 has been delivered so I can't comment, but I assume that if it has then it will be wearing the livery as well.  If a D2 is now wearing the livery then it shouldn't be long until we see the other D2's and D1's beginning to wear it as well.  I'm just wondering what they will do with the C2's since their shell is yellow, not white like the other low floor trams.
    Posted: 28 Nov 2013 18:24
      Chrono Detector Assistant Commissioner

    Location: Tram 57/59
    I'm aware that Z3 120, 172 and 230 are also in PT livery.

    Also, I wouldn't be surprised if YT applies the PTV livery to the A, B, C and D classes first that are in MK4 livery, and I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't do the Z3's already in MK4 livery, because apparently half of the Z3 fleet is still in MK2 livery and it took them so long just to start reapplying the livery again.
    Posted: 28 Nov 2013 20:24
      712M Chief Commissioner

    I'm just wondering what they will do with the C2's since their shell is yellow, not white like the other low floor trams.
    "jdekorte"

    What they need to do is get rid of the stupid bumblebee decals on the sides of the trams. It's ridiculous that you can't see out of any windows except for the cab windscreens, regardless of there being auto announcements or not.
    Posted: 28 Nov 2013 21:35
      Mr. Lane Chief Commissioner

    What they need to do is get rid of the stupid bumblebee decals on the sides of the trams. It's ridiculous that you can't see out of any windows except for the cab windscreens, regardless of there being auto announcements or not.
    712M
    Those decals are pretty faded now, they should just remove and leave the rest of the trams as is.

    Do we actually now own them? I never seem to get a definite answer for this. I think the decision to buy has been taken up, dropped and maybe taken up again...
    Posted: 04 Dec 2013 02:59
      Mr. Lane Chief Commissioner

    Seems like they were bought: Here
    Posted: 04 Dec 2013 03:02
      alstom_888m Chief Commissioner

    Location:
    If we now actually own the C2 then they should be repainted into PT> livery. Having a very small number of a class of tram that obviously stands out (Yellow instead of White/Green) they look like the don't belong and second hand. Likewise with the Hitachi, why are they still in Connex livery? (And why were they in Met livery for 8 years after Connex took over?)

    It looks tacky and unprofessional.
    Posted: 08 Dec 2013 18:57
      Some rail man Junior Train Controller

    Location: CIA Headquarters in Washington D.C
    We just cannot be bothered changing liveries that often, besides the Bumblebees would look ugly in PT>/Yarra Trams livery
    Posted: 08 Dec 2013 19:04
      mattylovestrains Train Controller

    Since the Z3 PTV livery has stopped for the moment, it seems they are now applying PTV livery to the Cs and D1s (A bit surprising no D2s have received the livery since 5001 last year)


    Here is the current list of trams in PTV livery:
    Z3: 120, 123, 126, 131, 139, 144, 159, 161, 163, 167, 172, 173, 174, 178, 185, 198, 199, 211, 212, 223, 225, 229, 230
    C: 3003, 3005, 3008, 3012, 3016, 3020, 3025
    D1: 3501, 3502, 3503, 3507, 3509, 3511, 3512
    D2: 5001
    E: 6001, 6002, 6003, 6004, 6005, 6007, 6009, 6010
    Posted: 13 Jul 2014 19:26
      mattylovestrains Train Controller

    C2.5123 is now in PTV livery Smile
    Posted: 19 Jul 2014 21:20
      jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

    Location: Near Caulfield Station
    C2.5123 is now in PTV livery Smile
    mattylovestrains

    Have you got a photo? This I would have to see. Nice bright green livery over mucky yellow exterior, or did they paint the exterior white?
    Posted: 19 Jul 2014 21:23
      mattylovestrains Train Controller

    Have you got a photo? This I would have to see. Nice bright green livery over mucky yellow exterior, or did they paint the exterior white?
    jdekorte

    Has a white exterior now.
    Saw a photo on the Facebook group "Trams Downunder and Overseas"
    Posted: 19 Jul 2014 21:33
      Bogong Chief Commissioner

    Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
    Has a white exterior now.
    Saw a photo on the Facebook group "Trams Downunder and Overseas"
    mattylovestrains

    It's a "closed group". Sad

    I guess they are a bit too important and superior to allow unwashed riff-raff like me to view their photos?
    Posted: 19 Jul 2014 22:31

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      yellowdoorssyd Chief Train Controller

    C2 5123 photograph is on VicSig latest photos - looks very smart.
    Posted: 20 Jul 2014 08:55
      jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

    Location: Near Caulfield Station
    C2 5123 photograph is on VicSig latest photos - looks very smart.
    yellowdoorssyd

    Yes, the ever reliable VicSig has a photo of C2.5123 wearing the new livery at Preston Workshops: http://www.vicsig.net/photo/18468

    I'll agree that it is a very smart look for this class of tram. Curious as to how they made it white though - paint or decals? I think the 'Bumblebee' identity was good when they first arrived, but as newer trams got added to the network, the identity was tired. At least this brings it into line with most of the other trams in the fleet. Since there are only 5 C2's, it shouldn't take them that long to refurbish the others.
    Posted: 20 Jul 2014 09:10
      Bogong Chief Commissioner

    Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
    ... Since there are only 5 C2's, ...
    jdekorte

    ... and for all this year there have only been 5 E's. WTF has happened to the plan to build 10 times that number? Construction seems to have totally stopped! Sad
    Posted: 20 Jul 2014 09:35
      jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

    Location: Near Caulfield Station
    ... and for all this year there have only been 5 E's. WTF has happened to the plan to build 10 times that number? Construction seems to have totally stopped! Sad
    Bogong

    Production of the E's has not stopped. Just because we have only really seen six or seven of them on the streets, doesn't mean they are not being delivered. VicSig had a photo of E.6012 on a semi-trailer at Bombardier Dandenong bound for Preston Workshops: http://www.vicsig.net/photo/18439

    And VicSig has also posted a photo of this unidentified E at Bombardier Dandenong: http://www.vicsig.net/photo/18437
    Posted: 20 Jul 2014 09:41
      Bogong Chief Commissioner

    Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
    Fair enough. I live 120 metres from the number 96 tram line and I've never seen one numbered higher than 6005.

    So what's happening with the other seven? Conspiracy theorists might postulate that the union may have black banned them from running until after the state election? Wink
    Posted: 20 Jul 2014 09:53
      Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

    Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
    They are out there, they just haven't yet entered service. Each tram has to undergo a testing regime out on the network which may take a couple of months, then they are available for revenue service. There is no conspiracy theory.

    Back on topic, there is a photo over on Vicsig of C2.5123 in the new PTV livery, not a remnant of the bumblebee left
    http://www.vicsig.net/photos/latestphotos
    Posted: 20 Jul 2014 10:15

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