Victorian VLCX - Auscisions, or OTM's - wheel wise

 
  NSWGR1855 Deputy Commissioner




I emailed auscision and they confirmed today that vans will come with interior details the same as ontrack, so if its purely on cost auscision is the clear winner with a 4 pack at $220 and a 5th wagon free that works out at $44 per wagon inc postage compared to otm $65 per wagon inc postage.Trainorama previously did these wagons as mentioned by a previous poster but they had chunky bogies and lacked  detail and the roof profile was not correct compared to the more accurate models coming soon from auscision and otm.
2LaGrange

[edit]http://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11376365.htm  thread split from a normal cmpatrison to yet another wheel standard discussion. [/edit]



Assuming no policy changes, Auscission will come with steam roller width wheels and Chinese scale head couplers, OTM will come with fine scale wheels and genuine Kadee scale head couplers. If you want fine scale wheels and Kadee couplers the price difference becomes minimal between the 2 brands.   Time will tell which is the more accurate.

Terry Flynn

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  2LaGrange Train Controller

As you say terry time will tell,but i would have to say that 99.99% of people are happy with your so called "steam roller wheels" and will not see the need to change them.Thats why auscision sell fine scale wheels as a separate part for the tiny minority that want them,why make everyone else pay for expensive wheels they dont want or need.If the wheels did not cost auscision anymore why would they not be standard ? Obviously there would be an additional cost thats why there not standard.As for couplers i personally have not had any issues with auscisions metal couplers so for me auscisions vans are way infront price wise.
  NSWGR1855 Deputy Commissioner

As you say terry time will tell,but i would have to say that 99.99% of people are happy with your so called "steam roller wheels" and will not see the need to change them.Thats why auscision sell fine scale wheels as a separate part for the tiny minority that want them,why make everyone else pay for expensive wheels they dont want or need.If the wheels did not cost auscision anymore why would they not be standard ? Obviously there would be an additional cost thats why there not standard.As for couplers i personally have not had any issues with auscisions metal couplers so for me auscisions vans are way infront price wise.
2LaGrange

Yes Ausicision are ahead in price if you are happy with steam roller width wheels or to put it another way tin plate era width wheels. In an earlier post I proved there is no increase in cost to make finescale wheels. The Auscision aftermarket finescale wheels are to a standard, the same AMRA standard OTM finescale wheels are made to. Both work on RTR track without any problems. The reason why the Auscision models are cheaper is because Auscision are offering a discount. Their other recently released Auscision wagons are around  $60 each.

Auscision are listening to a vocal minority, who don't like change. The centering springs on the Chinese couplers are not as reliable as the Kadee whisker couplers. If you shunt, you will notice the difference.

Terry Flynn.
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
Terry just out of interest to me have you seen any of the wheels used on Orient Express models and what is your opinion of them if you have . Just interested that is all nothing more. You can PM me if you like as this is off topic here.




[edit]Yes, start a new thread on this please -Dtheadf[/edit]
  LaidlayM Chief Commissioner

Location: Research
.....but i would have to say that 99.99% of people are happy with your so called "steam roller wheels" .............
2LaGrange
I doubt your statement, do you have any data to base it on?

Mark
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
I doubt your statement, do you have any data to base it on?

Mark
LaidlayM
Well just at a outside guess how many are sold and run straight out of the box, not everyone changes wheels over unless it is absolutely required. Unless the wheels have bad wobble or something similar. I for one do not change wheels unless I really have to, call me a miser but what comes with current models even if branded steam roller wheels are miles better than say Lima pizza cutter wheels to start with and don't get me started on plastic injection moulded wheels either. Most of these wheels were smeg especially the plastic ones.

I doubt you would find conclusive data though to base anything on. May be start a poll or something asking how many change the wheels on RTR stuff today it might give you some indication of it!
  LaidlayM Chief Commissioner

Location: Research
Well just at a outside guess how many are sold and run straight out of the box, not everyone changes wheels over unless it is absolutely required. Unless the wheels have bad wobble or something similar. I for one do not change wheels unless I really have to, call me a miser but what comes with current models even if branded steam roller wheels are miles better than say Lima pizza cutter wheels to start with and don't get me started on plastic injection moulded wheels either. Most of these wheels were smeg especially the plastic ones.

I doubt you would find conclusive data though to base anything on. May be start a poll or something asking how many change the wheels on RTR stuff today it might give you some indication of it!
David Peters
David,

if you are responding to me I don't think you read what I