Dp 13/14 sale

 
  Electric C Junior Train Controller

Location: The Shed - land of junk, smoke and wonder
Putting in perspective? Yes there are other railcars here, dons DP 22 (not so sister) transport museums 15 (also different) and BCC's (witch they are keeping, once was the same) so yes not all the same! with DP 13 once being the commissioners car (witch I'd love to see it as) is different and why it's worth keeping as they was the best the railways did! And with its history is worth restoring! If you can't see that this discussion may as well end (one would assume with one final quip from you) and it may end up with diesel traction (oh god a new group how is this possible in your version of tassie) as there well
suited passenger car

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  The_trolley Deputy Commissioner

Location: .
Yeap, you guessed it, I had to bite.

Anyway, you're forgetting something, and that is that the public who pays a railway preservation groups bills doesn't care. They don't care that such and such carriage had a different window arrangement to its sister or that loco whatever was the only one to be painted green. Only railway enthusiasts like you and me care about that crap, but it's not us that's paying the bills, far from it.

The public spend on heritage is getting smaller and smaller so being a bit smarter is the key. Why spend huge amounts buying and restoring DP13 when all the public needs to know is that they're riding in DP14 which is much the same, and that DP13, the last passenger railcar in Tasmania is now restored and up in Queensland (you can even print that on a pamphlet!). The public won't care they didn't ride in DP13, all they'll care about is that they went for a ride in an old train.

Nobody except for a few gunzels care about small rivet details, and that's one of the downfalls of railway preservation. Gunzels would rather keep the first and last of everything as well as the one in between which was painted red back in the day instead of limiting their scope and picking the best example. Instead of being happy with one and maintaing it in first class condition, they'd rather have five with four of those rotting out in the rain because they think the public cares as much about light fittings and an extra window as they do.

Tasmania doesn't have the people, money or time to take on the restoration of DP13 when there's other near identical cars already operating. Buying and trying to restore DP13 because it was the last at the expense of something like a steam locomotive's overhaul (a real public draw card) is just ludicrous gunzel thinking.

As for DTT, I really do commend them on what they're doing and wish them all the best. In saying that though, they should probably stick with the diesels and achieving something there instead of grabbing a burnt out railcar that'll be detrimental to their efforts and the restoration of their main project, ZC2144.
  The_trolley Deputy Commissioner

Location: .
Besides, I thought DTT stood for Diesel Traction Tasmania, not Diesel Railcar Tasmania or Camp Wagon Tasmania.

Stick to what you're good at guys and also what you formed to do. Diversification into all those other little things that gunzel a likes will be detrimental in the long run and only take time, effort and money away from what you're actually supposed to be doing.

2144 fully restored (and hopefully a few more EE's too some day) will look great, but you won't get there if you're off playing with DP13 too.

Other than that, I really do like the idea of the DTT and I even bought a calendar to support their efforts, but I hope that won't be in vain because a few people have ideas of grandeur and railcars in mind.
  theesp Train Controller

Who knows when X30 will ever run again. They have more than enough on their plate up there to contend with all ready.
  Floody Locomotive Driver

Was DP13 preserved in inspection vehicle condition or 'restored' back to passenger railcar configuration?
  BP4417 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Launceston, Tasmania
Was DP13 preserved in inspection vehicle condition or 'restored' back to passenger railcar configuration?
Floody
Restored back to Railcar condition
  Floody Locomotive Driver

Were the inspection car alteration parts retained somewhere for future reinstatement?
  Amraks Junior Train Controller

dp13/14 I am glad I rode her twice.

lets hope there will be a 3rd time.
  Electric C Junior Train Controller

Location: The Shed - land of junk, smoke and wonder
Were the inspection car alteration parts retained somewhere for future reinstatement?
Floody
Probably not, i think it was done in AN days (correct me on this dennis?) but there is plans of them and pics too
  Electric C Junior Train Controller

Location: The Shed - land of junk, smoke and wonder
dp13/14 I am glad I rode her twice.

lets hope there will be a 3rd time.
Amraks
in tas too
  Floody Locomotive Driver

So its uniqueness as an inspection vehicle possibly exists only in rostering documents?
  Electric C Junior Train Controller

Location: The Shed - land of junk, smoke and wonder
Yes but with the state it's in it could be restored to ether it was a rather simple set up, small kitchen and some seats removed and a couple of large plan tables added (I think the one my dad has is one) plus a few other small mods
  BP4417 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Launceston, Tasmania
Probably not, i think it was done in AN days (correct me on this dennis?) but there is plans of them and pics too
Electric C
I might be wrong, but I think the conversion back to the Passenger Railcar configuration was undertaken by the then private operators Classic Rail Tours.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIb_calurwI
  Electric C Junior Train Controller

Location: The Shed - land of junk, smoke and wonder
And that there is why DP should stay in the state!
  lkernan Deputy Commissioner
  Amraks Junior Train Controller

Just seen this sounds like its been sold to Queensland.

Mr Kons needs to rethink his position on this. selling our history.
  12CSVT Chief Commissioner

Location: Drowning in accreditation red tape!

Mr Kons needs to rethink his position on this. selling our history.
Amraks
He also needs to consider telling the truth. Everything he was quoted as saying was a pack of lies.
  QSB6.7 Chief Train Controller

Location: Going off the rails on a crazy train.
Great video.
The AN livery looks good on everything.
  GrahamH Chief Commissioner

Location: At a terminal on the www.
Don't worry guys, when it gets to Toowoomba I'll take a photo of it for you. Very Happy
GrahamH

I don't have a photo, have a squiz at this link.

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  abtrail Station Master

Location: west coast wilderness railway
any news from qld on her progress
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
any news from qld on her progress
abtrail

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  Peter-Hem Locomotive Driver

Location: Tassie
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Graham4405


More power to them! The important thing is DP13 is being restored, not that it has moved to another state.
Tasmanians set fire to DP13. The Queenslanders are fixing the wreck. Good on them.
  grrr17 Deputy Commissioner

More power to them! The important thing is DP13 is being restored, not that it has moved to another state.
Tasmanians set fire to DP13. The Queenslanders are fixing the wreck. Good on them.
Peter-Hem

A horrible generalisation

Braindead idiots burned DP13, Tasmanians were never given the chance to repair it.
  abtrail Station Master

Location: west coast wilderness railway
The Gatsby Flyer
Graham4405

thank you good to see when running anlike its sister which may never run again
  12CSVT Chief Commissioner

Location: Drowning in accreditation red tape!
A horrible generalisation

Braindead idiots burned DP13, Tasmanians were never given the chance to repair it.
"grrr17"


Exactly. A couple Tas. preservation groups bid for it (with cash offers - no they weren't expecting it to be given to them) but were roundly rejected. Not the first time Tas. preservation groups have been passed over for mainland groups.

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