Summer of Cricket 2013/14

 
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Did anyone see Piers Morgan get bowled to by Brett Lee in the nets on Friday?, Sir Richard Hadlee has written a piece condemning Brett Lee for his actions - http://www.cricket.com.au/news-list/2013/12/29/richard-hadlee-blast-brett-lee-for-piers-morgan-stunt- I must say I find it rather amusing from Sir Richard, when Piers Morgan wanted it to begin with, and as for the statement suggesting that Lee should be reprimanded for his actions, Sir Richard doesn't have a leg to stand on!
lsrailfan
I entirely agree. Hadlee must be missing all the publicity he used to get, and decided to do something about it. Piers Morgan blew his mouth off big time, dared Lee to really let him have it, and boasted about how he'd show the Pom batsmen how it should be done. He got exactly what was coming to him. I presume Hadlee's next piece of boneheadedness will be to have boxing banned on the same grounds for which he criticizes Lee.


Even with a 50 run lead, the game was 50/50. England are in such pathetic form they can't win from any situation.
bowralcommuter
So it seems. Any side which leads by 100 runs with 9 second-innings wickets in hand as England did, has the game at its mercy. From that position, Australia should have been chasing a minimum of 350 to win. The England second innings was the worst that I can remember from them. Then, to add to that, a pathetic fielding display in the Australian second innings - catches ignored and/or dropped, and just generally slack.  Broad was one who tried hard, and deserves the chance to kick both Bairstow and Cook around the boundary line. There was no fight; it was so obvious that they'd given up.

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  djf01 Chief Commissioner

Did anyone see Piers Morgan get bowled to by Brett Lee in the nets on Friday?,  
lsrailfan
Yeah, saw a relay on YouTube (or somewhere), it was pretty funny.

Did anyone see the "Bodyline" TV show with comedian Adam Zwar? (here)

Personally I'd *love* the chance to face Brett Lee and am certain I'd do a better job of it than either Morgan or Zwar.  Zwar wasn't any better really - other than at least he backed over to the off side and consequently didn't get hit.  

And Zwar was wearing 1930s era protective equipment.  I've played all of my cricket without a helmet, and I wouldn't face a serious pace bowler without one now - primarily because at my age my back foot doesn't move as and when instructed making dodging the short stuff *slightly* problematic Smile.  But other than that I wouldn't have a problem using that old protective equipment.  People underestimate the effectiveness of that gear.  The casings look dreadful, and there is no soft padding so you are going to feel some impacts, but the predominant protective material are natural fibres (typically horse hair in the gloves) rather than plastic Styrofoam.  

But one thing Zwar did I definitely would *not* do is bat right handed against anyone with a cricket ball wearing left handed batting gloves!
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Like djf01, I played well before helmets et al were introduced. I wore a standard thigh pad, batting pads, box, "sausage" type battling gloves and a cap.  I was an opener, and rarely got hit on any unprotected surface. Looking back on it, I'm not quite sure how, but we were taught to watch bouncers and sway aside.  At my age now, I could play Brett Lee easily so long as I could have the sight screen adjusted properly; about half way down the pitch.Very Happy
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
Like djf01, I played well before helmets et al were introduced. I wore a standard thigh pad, batting pads, box, "sausage" type battling gloves and a cap.  I was an opener, and rarely got hit on any unprotected surface. Looking back on it, I'm not quite sure how, but we were taught to watch bouncers and sway aside.  At my age now, I could play Brett Lee easily so long as I could have the sight screen adjusted properly; about half way down the pitch.Very Happy
Valvegear
You want the sight screen half way down the pitch?

I reckon I could play Brett Lee with that too, as long as he was bowling into the back of the sight screen and I was on the other side. Very Happy
  djf01 Chief Commissioner

Like djf01, I played well before helmets et al were introduced. I wore a standard thigh pad, batting pads, box, "sausage" type battling gloves and a cap.  I was an opener, and rarely got hit on any unprotected surface. Looking back on it, I'm not quite sure how, but we were taught to watch bouncers and sway aside.  At my age now, I could play Brett Lee easily so long as I could have the sight screen adjusted properly; about half way down the pitch.Very Happy
Valvegear
I even ended up ditching the thigh pad.  I'd played 2 or 3 seasons and only been hit on the thing once, where I was immediately given out caught behind.  I think that says something about the standard of the pitches and bowling I faced rather than my batting.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Like many others, I now wonder how long England can afford to keep Alastair Cook as captain.  When England is in the field, there are lengthy "captaincy committee" meetings every couple of overs, complete with chin rubbing and arm waving. Captaincy by committee, apart from wasting a lot of time, just does not work. We've seen field placings being changed by various players ( particularly by Prior in the first three Tests ), and whole thing is a shambles. All the meetings on the field shout a message to Cook's own team that he doesn't really know what's happening or what he should do next. The Australians get the same message and must be laughing like drains. There's one captain, and his job is to lead on the field. Tactics are discussed at team meetings before play, not reinvented on the ground.
  SAR520SMBH Train Controller

I, and I'd imagine many others, have noticed the same thing out on the field Valvegear.
One other thing that's really caught my eye is how many players seem to be surrounding the bowler mid over, especially after a couple of poor balls are dealt with by the Australian batsmen. I've seen up to 4 players talking to the bowler together, usually fellow bowlers and quite often KP too. They all obviously have their own advice, non of which is helping.
When England was on top of its game, this was rarely seen and if it did occur it was only ever 1 or 2 players and one of them was Cook. This series he's just been standing at first slip with his arms crossed staring into space or with his hands behind his back naval gazing.
I'd love to know what others think about the captaincy but my personal opinion is that if Cook is dropped, Bell should be handed the captaincy.
  djf01 Chief Commissioner

Like many others, I now wonder how long England can afford to keep Alastair Cook as captain.  When England is in the field, there are lengthy "captaincy committee" meetings every couple of overs, complete with chin rubbing and arm waving. Captaincy by committee, apart from wasting a lot of time, just does not work.
Valvegear
Symptomatic of a losing team.  It's been clear what England's plans have been, but it's been equally clear they haven't had a pre-defined plan B or plan C, other than perhaps to slow the game down as an on-field tactic.  At the end of the Ashes in England this year only Shane Warne was criticising Cook's captaincy.  Personally, I don't think it's a lack of clarity in the England captain's decision making, it's just the tactics they've decided on haven't worked.  Besides, who else would captain England?  KP?  J Root?
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
If the ball doesn't swing, England's A,B & C plans have gone.   Anderson is just an average medium pace bowler with no throat ball.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
I have to wonder why they brought a brace of tall fast bowlers and didn't use them. Finn in particular must be feeling hard done by.
  djf01 Chief Commissioner

If the ball doesn't swing, England's A,B & C plans have gone.   Anderson is just an average medium pace bowler with no throat ball.
Donald
Fair call that.  Anderson had the Kookaburra ball talking in 2010, but it hasn't done much for him this tour.

I have to wonder why they brought a brace of tall fast bowlers and didn't use them. Finn in particular must be feeling hard done by.
Valvegear

I think England discovered in the 1st test that unless you are *really* quick, bowling short in Australia is a recipe for getting smashed.  England *almost* won the first test with Broad's (genuinely quick) short stuff.  But they just ran out of fire power.

After that I think based on the troubles Cook, Root and to a lesser extent KP were having against the full swinging bowling of all the Australians, they decided - quite correctly IMHO - they'd be better off pitching the ball up and trying to swing it, hence the selection of Bresnan.  They also probably felt - also quite correctly IMHO - their batting needed a bit more starch down the order.  

I don't think the decision to leave out all their talls was the wrong one, the issue was their selection for the tour in the first place.  Perhaps some justification might have been to have those guys available as net bowlers to properly prepare their batters for dealing with the Aussie quicks.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
The 5th Test is underway in Sydney, England won the toss and are having a Bowl, Aussies have lost 2 wickets already, Warner and Rodgers
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Australia are in huge trouble at Lunch, They are 4/94, England have bowled well in the post Lunch session, can the Aussie tail wag again?

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  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
England have bowled well in the post Lunch session
lsrailfan

Huh? We haven't had the post lunch session yet! I'm hoping they won't...
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Sorry- I meant Pre lunch
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Yet again, Haddin climbs on to his white horse and rides to the rescue. Australia would be in diabolical strife without his batting.
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
Yet again, Haddin climbs on to his white horse and rides to the rescue. Australia would be in diabolical strife without his batting.
Valvegear

I was just thinking the same thing - again!
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Yes Australia would have struggled big time without Haddin that's for sure, But, I think they would have still won the Series, although maybe not quite as early as they have done

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  MC3801 Train Controller

England 1/7 at stumps. Superb innings by Brad Haddin and Steve Smith.
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
Yeah, Carberry was out 3 times before they nailed him, long time since I have seen someone so ill at ease at the crease. Interesting Cook's decision to bowl, virtually acknowledging his team can't bat to save themselves, just like the Australian team.
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
There were a couple of funny exchanges on Nine's coverage today. Tony Abbott was a guest commentator and Tubby asked him if, seeing as Tony was rarely there, he could have the keys to Kirribilli House so Tubby could use it as a fishing shack. Abbott replied sure, but you're not getting the keys to the fridge!

Later, Bumble and Warne were discussing going shopping for cricket protectors, and Bumble mentioned how every time you did, you always got a female shop assistant, and when you finally managed to explain what you wanted, they always asked what size. Bumble said, "Well, you were not going to say 'small' were you?"

Warney replied, "Sure, always ask for the small one, try it on, then ask for the next size, then when you get to the large size, ask if they have any bigger ones." Laughing
  djf01 Chief Commissioner

Yeah, Carberry was out 3 times before they nailed him, long time since I have seen someone so ill at ease at the crease. Interesting Cook's decision to bowl, virtually acknowledging his team can't bat to save themselves, just like the Australian team.
TheBlacksmith

Probably the right decision (to bowl) IMHO.  That pitch was anything but flat.  Whenever they showed a close up you could see the horizontal lines across it, which indicated it's corrugated: mower takes more grass from the peaks and leaves it longer in the troughs. A *lot* of batters were hit on the hands, and balls occasionally steepled, occasionally came through bail height.  When it's like that the ball tends to come off at uneven paces too, making it hard to drive.  

Australia scored a lot of runs very quickly, but mostly because the poms just bowled too short.  Haddin scored almost all his runs pulling short balls
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
England now 5/23 after the first hour.   Absolutely fantastic fast bowling this morning.   Could have been in more trouble if Watto had caught Bell first ball.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
England now 5/23 after the first hour. Absolutely fantastic fast bowling this morning. Could have been in more trouble if Watto had caught Bell first ball.
Donald


Is Australia playing England or Canada?
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
Is Australia playing England or Canada?
bevans

Pardon?

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