An uncertain future - Seymour Railway Heritage Centre (SRHC)

 

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Posted 4 years ago

  VRfan Moderator

Location: In front of my computer :-p
And it never saw any before it.  That unit has well and truly had a very hard working life and should be repainted
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Actually before the hiring started, GM36 was one of the best looking locomotives at the SRHC.

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  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
Actually before the hiring started, GM36 was one of the best looking locomotives at the SRHC.
VRfan
Agree. Here's proof:

[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8296/7807041250_30049fb2db_c.jpg[/img]

19/10/1998 that was. A tour to Benalla (with J515) to celebrate the naming of GM36 as "C J Stomann" after a stalwart member of the SLSPG, thence SRHC. She looked the goods until around 2002 when she started getting really tatty. It's been downhill from there. Now she's for all intents and purposes "abandoned" at Portland, missing a wheel set from one of the bogies with no word on when or how she will make it back to the SRHC.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
"C J Stomann" has been dumped like so many other members.
  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
He left with a lot of other founding and skilled volunteers in 2001, following the AGM.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Has the AGM been held?  Has anyone heard anything of elections, financial statements et al?
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
It's a pity that rail works have stopped the New Year's Eve Fireworks Express from running.
  trainbrain Deputy Commissioner

I am under the impression that what you see was for last Years New Years Eve train, must still be running late..................
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
I am under the impression that what you see was for last Years New Years Eve train, must still be running late..................
"trainbrain"
Yes, indeed!  On wonders whether it was intended that one should operate this New Year, until closures got in the way.
  xxxxlbear Token Booking Clerk

Location: Geelong
It is interesting that SRHC are now calling for new volunteers, hmmmm....
They have pi**ed most of their existing volunteers off, now they want some fresh blood in their system Confused

Link: http://www.srhc.org.au/Home.aspx
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
It is interesting that SRHC are now calling for new volunteers, hmmmm....

They have pi**ed most of their existing volunteers off, now they want some fresh blood in their system
xxxxlbear


Yes- read the Membership section of the SRHC website,"The SRHC encourages membership of the Group and provides an opportunity for all members with an interest in railways to join our volunteer workforce to assist us in our work and objectives."  They certainly demonstrated some unusual ways of encouraging members.
  QSB6.7 Chief Train Controller

Location: Going off the rails on a crazy train.
Anyone catch a T class being trucked along Seymour-Tooborac Rd on Wednesday (22 Jan)?
I didn't catch the numbers but it looked to be in faded V/line livery, possibly T382.
  Polar Tiger Chief Commissioner

Location: FL390
T386 previously owned by El Zorro.
  QSB6.7 Chief Train Controller

Location: Going off the rails on a crazy train.
Thanks PT.
It sure looked in poor shape from the quick glimpse that I had of it.  Any idea where it is heading?
  DounutCereal Chief Train Controller

Location: Who knows.
Thanks PT.
It sure looked in poor shape from the quick glimpse that I had of it. Any idea where it is heading?
QSB6.7

SSR Bendigo workshops.

As far as I know it has been purchased by SSR along with S302 and is to be refurbished there.
  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
Have heard that things are a bit tight in Seymour lately, but no details other than the money seems to be drying up rapidly.
Have also heard on the grapevine that the SRHC are currently trying to offload diesel parts that they have amassed over the last few years.

It just goes to show what happens when you alienate your volunteers, and take on paid employees instead - the money soon starts drying up. It is also a lesson on how not to throw your eggs in the one basket, and attempt to become the CFCLA of the preservation world (for all intents and purposes, a 'commercial' company). The hire market has dried right up - even the commercial hire companies are trying to offload the older small to medium sized locomotives from their stable. There is also the matter of monies owed by El Zorro (which will never be recouped, as the SRHC were an un-secured creditor), which have been brought on by the above decisions made at the executive level. There may be some money coming in from the regular hire of X31, and the spot hiring of both C501 and S303, but it's not enough to sustain the group's activities as in the past few years. The trickle of money coming in is most likely only just keeping them afloat at present, I suspect.

Also noted is the distinct lack of tours in the recent past - not even a New Year's Fireworks train was advertised or operated that I am aware of. Seeing as the core aim of the group is supposed to be running heritage trains for the benefit of the people of Victoria (as a side note, I note that their new logo is very similar to the linework on a NSWGR 442 class...Not very "Victorian"), you'd think they would have done so. As far as I can tell, the last train was a private charter for Fowles Wines. No blog updates since December either.

One has to ask how long this will continue for, before the whole lot goes under?
  xxxxlbear Token Booking Clerk

Location: Geelong
Oh well, looks like years of bad committee decisions have come back to bite them on the ar*e.
And I guess you have wonder why all this horrible mess was allowed to happen in the first place.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
There is also the matter of monies owed by El Zorro (which will never be recouped, as the SRHC were an un-secured creditor), which have been brought on by the above decisions made at the executive level.
Barrington Womble

One is compelled to wonder just how much committee discussion took place over the course of action which was taken, with the now obvious disastrous results. As far as I am aware, there are not many, if any, people on the committee who have made their living by operating a commercial business. The lack of business acumen has been highlighted previously, as has the bad advice given by another who was also a career public servant until he decided to market himself as a "consultant". This, of course, demonstrates the definition of a consultant as a man with a briefcase more than 10 km from home. The whole sorry scene is a classic example of unskilled people getting out of their depth.

I quote the website,

"The SRHC operates heritage rail tours in Victoria for the benefit of the community and most of its trains feature a kiosk with liquor licence with a choice of steel air conditioned carriages and older wooden non air conditioned carriages with fares to suit all potential travellers."


Is that cynical laughter I hear everywhere?

I sincerely hope that those responsible for the wreckage of a former great preservation and tour group are held to account.
  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
I doubt it.

I very much think that most of the executive think they have done nothing wrong - especially El Presidente. Until such time as final impact occurs, they will continue on their current path of blundering from one commercial egg basket to another, and further dismantling the group in the process.

They say history never repeats. Until the committee changes completely, and those who have placed the SRHC in it's current predicament step down and leave; then that is exactly what will happen until all the money is all gone. You have to wonder what their plan is then - if a plan even exists.
  Clyde_AT26HC-2M Chief Train Controller

I am lead to believe SSR never "purchased" S302 and T386 but were given to them.
  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
You're in the wrong thread, mate. I know you're only answering some of the abover assertions about the locos. Whatever the scenario is with the ex-Shonks locos, it's between the liquidators and SSR. It's nothing to do with the SRHC.
  monday Chief Commissioner



I am lead to believe SSR never "purchased" S302 and T386 but were given to them


Its hard to know whether to laugh or cry when people make statements like this - on one hand, you want to laugh as it reflects nothing of how the world actually operates and shows a complete lack of understanding of any business realities, but on the hand, makes you cry as you realise that there are people out there that actually believe it...
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
There's a link in another thread here, showing that SRHC has itself listed as a charity. I'd be interested to know what sort of charitable work the group actually does.
  xxxxlbear Token Booking Clerk

Location: Geelong
Pigs ar*e SRHC is a charity.

I'd like to know what the person who believes that SRHC is a charity is smoking, because I want whatever they are on Laughing
  garethsh Junior Train Controller

Pigs ar*e SRHC is a charity.

I'd like to know what the person who believes that SRHC is a charity is smoking, because I want whatever they are on Laughing
xxxxlbear


According to the Australian Charities & Not For Profits Commission:

http://www.acnc.gov.au/RN52B75Q?ID=D60AB259-6614-4B12-84C5-E4BB9AE361D0&noleft=1

(If link doesn't work try search)
  xxxxlbear Token Booking Clerk

Location: Geelong
What a crock of s**t.
One look at the so called 'responsible persons' and it explains everything.
And I can't work out how this so called charity has ever even remotely benefited the community :-/

Oh well, isn't there some kind of tax benefits that goes with being a charity? SRHC must be on a good wicket if there are any.

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