Austrains G Class Diesel Loco - Upcoming 81 / G / BL

 
  M636C Minister for Railways



On the up side, it looks like the first time an Austrains model will have correct looking bogie frames!
In my opinion, these won't be the JT26-2SS models to show his old foe at powerline just how it's done after all. Perhaps technically better but not a big leap over it as promised.

End rant,
Matt.
EFB5800


John Eassie was a part owner of Powerline and was involved in the design of the Powerline 81 and G classes.
They were an improvement on the 48 class John had made in the Trax range which was itself later improved substantially by Powerline.

M636C

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  linton78 Train Controller

Location: South Coast NSW
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6Xd8d9TLaDg/UutFiuB6siI/AAAAAAAAD2o/i1_86iSNX8w/s1600/IMG_4356.JPG

why is the gap too big here between the engine and the ground.
AustinNichols

I am not too sure how accurate the BGB (Samhongsa) G is, but here is a picture of my brass model for comparison. There seems to be more of a gap on the Austrains model between the inner end of the bogies and the side frames in relation to the body. Like I said I am not sure how good the BGB model is but I think it looks better compared to the plastic version especially around the fuel tank. In saying all this there is quite a difference in price! The 81 will be interesting to see.

I still think photos of these models should have been placed on the Austrains website. Some people say that we should not complain and that the models were available at exhibitions for viewing. The thing I have found is that a body shell by its self can look great. When painted, combined with the chassis and when sitting on rails a more overall impression is gained.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/95628962@N04/12296875066/

And side view:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/95628962@N04/12296749024/in/photostream/

Regards,

Linton
  strike1 Beginner

Hi all,

I take it we should have received a letter by now confirming our details, or are others still waiting also?

With thanks.
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
Thanks. It was sold to SCT in March 2007 and repainted soon after during it's conversion to SG. It looks like it carried this livery for only 14 months whilst in broad gauge. Seems like an odd one to select to model in this livery.
Titfield

Model train manufacturers seem do do weird numbers of some things for no apparent reason, even though others would sell better..... like the 6 year early rendition of NR62 in PN, and no low numbered AN coloured AN's. And X47 in FV, especially with the chopped nose.
  CLF6 Station Master

Hi all,

I take it we should have received a letter by now confirming our details, or are others still waiting also?

With thanks.
strike1

Haven't seen my letter yet, however, as I only placed my order in December I imagine that I'm way down the bottom of the list.

John
  TheMeddlingMonk Deputy Commissioner

Location: The Time Vortex near Melbourne, Australia
Hi all,

I take it we should have received a letter by now confirming our details, or are others still waiting also?

With thanks.
strike1

Also yet to receive a letter.
  strike1 Beginner

Thanks for your replies, we're all in the same boat then.

Cheers.
  2LaGrange Train Controller

Model train manufacturers seem do do weird numbers of some things for no apparent reason, even though others would sell better..... like the 6 year early rendition of NR62 in PN, and no low numbered AN coloured AN's. And X47 in FV, especially with the chopped nose.
speedemon08

I think Model Manufacturers have to take many things into consideration when picking loco numbers,Maybe the artwork for PN G class was done a long time ago that's why we have ended up with a G class that is no longer owned by PN in PN Livery.
As for low numbered AN locos,what were Auscision supposed to do ? AN1 and AN2 in NR Charcoal and AN3 in Ghan why would they then go and do these numbers in AN Green when all other locos in class had AN green.
Manufacturers are always trying to keep costs down for tooling so all munufacturers will pick loco numbers that use the same body tooling with as many liveries applied as possible.
Remember they also have to leave something to do in a re-run of a loco so maybe that's why they do not do all versions in a first run.
Having said all this I think more candy numbered 81s would sell as others have already mentioned but we all know how much MR Eassie hates Candy and has no faith in its popularity.
  ed31880 Train Controller

Hi all,

I take it we should have received a letter by now confirming our details, or are others still waiting also?

With thanks.
strike1

yet to receive mine.
  Albert Chief Commissioner

Still waiting for my letter. I ordered two 81's in 2009. I'm guessing that the G/BL orders are going to be done first inline with the factory builds.
  wat700 Junior Train Controller

Location: Richmond, NSW
Being overseas with work at the moment I was worried I would miss my letter so emailed Austrains explaining my situation.

Good thing I did as my order was not on their records. I promptly sent it through again (with the original email order included) and got an acknowledgement back (John was very quick with answering the emails).

So I'd encourage people to email Austrains to be sure that their orders are on record.

Cheers,
  ANDL36Y Train Controller

Are there any photos of these things? People seem to have them but I've seen obscured images of a FA G being dismantled on another forum.

Foaming at the bit here...

Cheers
  brissim Chief Train Controller

Are there any photos of these things? People seem to have them but I've seen obscured images of a FA G being dismantled on another forum.
ANDL36Y

There are some photos earlier in this thread. What surprises me however is that for those few who did pick one up at the Corio show there's been no comment at all on the running qualities of the model. I'm being positive and assuming from this silence that there aren't any problems?

Tony
  5711 Assistant Commissioner

I can only imagine that its so early in the story that not many folks have got them.
I'm quite interested to see how the 81's look and run. I've got 2 x candy on order and I'm intrigued to see of the height issue will be the same as with the G.
  gw0071 Deputy Commissioner

If you have committed to something sight unseen and it turns up below par then you're kind of stuffed. Generally speaking risk is minimised by being supplied with an honest and accurate sample of what it is you are committing to. This is definitely not the case with this particular importer so hopefully your risk will be subsidised by a discounted purchase price
  kingfisher Chief Train Controller

If you have committed to something sight unseen and it turns up below par then you're kind of stuffed. Generally speaking risk is minimised by being supplied with an honest and accurate sample of what it is you are committing to. This is definitely not the case with this particular importer so hopefully your risk will be subsidised by a discounted purchase price
gw0071

All I can say at this stage is that I am glad that I have held onto my money.
  brissim Chief Train Controller

There's been a small update on the Austrains website. Interesting that the two candy 81s have sold out (of course we don't know how many candy 81s were allocated in the first place).

Tony
  kingfisher Chief Train Controller

There's been a small update on the Austrains website. Interesting that the two candy 81s have sold out (of course we don't know how many candy 81s were allocated in the first place).

Tony
brissim

We also don't know how many people who ordered both candy 81's would have ordered more if more road numbers were available and I dare say John won't know either..
  linton78 Train Controller

Location: South Coast NSW
There's been a small update on the Austrains website. Interesting that the two candy 81s have sold out (of course we don't know how many candy 81s were allocated in the first place).

Tony
"brissim"


Well that's what I would have expected. Maybe a few more Candy numbers may have been viable after all. Looks like I will not be buying a Austrains 81. Maybe it's lucky due to my train crew not being issued an extension ladder to bridge the body / chassis gap. That's if it comes out like the G anyway.

Still no pictures! People don't obviously care though. Maybe I am a weirdo wanting to see something before I buy it.

Linton
  Dazz Deputy Commissioner

I got my letter from Austrains asking if I wanted to change or cancel my order, stating which numbers will not be coming in this run, 8101 being one of them and the only one I had on order, juts my luck!

Oddly enough none of the models on the letter listed as "Not coming" are listed on the web site for order at the moment, including 8101. I wonder if this means unless you have already ordered one of those numbers too bad you miss out, or will they reappear on the order form closer to them being available?

These and more questions I'm sure will go unanswered until the time comes when they either get here, or we get told they aren't coming at all ever!
  meh Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
According to the update anyone who placed their order after September 2013 will not be contacted, which I assume means that the models will just turn up on our doorsteps in a few weeks (if we're lucky?).
  5711 Assistant Commissioner

Yep - this has to be Austrains worst release effort yet.
Firstly we are told that candy does not sell.
Then only 2 road numbers are provided.
Then we never see a proper pre-production sample except a painted body which 99% or people have not seen.
Then it sells out.....and there is a unsightly gap on the one related model we see - the G class.

I pre-ordered mine thru an Austrains retailer, which i 'assume' will mean that they will not get stocks.

Oh well - interesting series of misfortunes there.

I'll stick with my classic brass ones......
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
There are some photos earlier in this thread. What surprises me however is that for those few who did pick one up at the Corio show there's been no comment at all on the running qualities of the model. I'm being positive and assuming from this silence that there aren't any problems?

Tony
brissim

Tony
I would love to tell you how mine runs. But my layout is DCC and I had to dismantle it after making sure it ran on rollers with a 9v battery (no sense converting it if its broke thinks I Sad
It took a lot of time stripping it down, and I have yet to get the decoder installed and back on the track, sadly.  It will now get done when I have calmed down a little... just need to work out how to get at least two screws back in to secure the body. It will happen but on a scale of 1 to 10 where 9 is a Trainorama S Class and 2 is an Austrains X Class I would rate the G Class as minus 8 Smile solely because no thought at all was given to how people were going to strip it or put it back together again.
The good news is apart from a badly bent jewelers screw driver, nothing is broken yet
Cheers
Rod
  Erail Locomotive Fireman

makes me nervous that I've missed out on a candy. I sent my order of months ago payment in full but I haven't heard anything from them, No letter either that they said they were sending out Sad
  gw0071 Deputy Commissioner

Nervous or joyous?

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