Slow running computer - assistance required

 
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
when do you consider the REAL internet came into existence ?
rwatts

The day I started using it! Mr. Green

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  Ballast_Plough Chief Commissioner

Location: Lilydale, Vic
Whilst the structure of the internet has possibly not changed that much, "real internet" really means the era when it became readily accessible to the public.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
The day I started using it! Mr. Green
Graham4405


Same day as me! There's a coincidence.
  xxxxlbear Token Booking Clerk

Location: Geelong
Just out of interest, I began using the internet, probably in the order of 20+ years ago. It made its debut for me at my then local library at Hawthorn, the one on Glenferrie Road. It was on 1 computer, which I had no trouble making a booking for, and was located down the very back of the library behind some heavily stacked shelves, and was connected to a dot matrix printer.
Very basic arrangement to say the least when compared with todays setup of internet computers at libraries Smile
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
I regard the Internet as the greatest invention in the last hundred years because it provides information to the entire population of the world at minimal cost, something that previously was only available to the wealthy via encyclopaedia's. Granted, not all of the world is able to access it, but it certainly reaches more than books ever did.
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
I regard the Internet as the greatest invention in the last hundred years because it provides information to the entire population of the world at minimal cost, something that previously was only available to the wealthy via encyclopaedia's. Granted, not all of the world is able to access it, but it certainly reaches more than books ever did.
TheBlacksmith

You can read books in many, no all, areas that don't have internet access available! Smile
Also in this country I'd hardly call it minimal cost, especially for those on a pension/low wages etc.
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
You can read books in many, no all, areas that don't have internet access available! Smile
Also in this country I'd hardly call it minimal cost, especially for those on a pension/low wages etc.
Graham4405

What books? Ever tried to borrow an encyclopaedia from your local library?

Cost wise, you can get a combined phone/internet package cheaper than a land line connection out my way in the sticks.
  Ads Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
My computer is also suffering considerable lag (~ 2mins reaction time) when I inset an SD card to the internal card reader and also on occasion when connecting a USB device such as a mouse.

I would assume these problems are independent of any potential issues caused by running Norton on my PC, as if my memory is correct these problems were occurring prior to installing Norton.
Any ideas?


Lastly, for the last few months I have been required to "install windows updates" upon shutdown for approx every 3 out 5 times.
Is this a normal ratio? Is Windows really creating updates that frequently?

Cheers
  s3_gunzel Not a gunzel developer

Location: Western Sydney, AU
Lastly, for the last few months I have been required to "install windows updates" upon shutdown for approx every 3 out 5 times.
Is this a normal ratio? Is Windows really creating updates that frequently?
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  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
My computer is also suffering considerable lag (~ 2mins reaction time) when I inset an SD card to the internal card reader and also on occasion when connecting a USB device such as a mouse.

I would assume these problems are independent of any potential issues caused by running Norton on my PC, as if my memory is correct these problems were occurring prior to installing Norton.
Any ideas?


Lastly, for the last few months I have been required to "install windows updates" upon shutdown for approx every 3 out 5 times.
Is this a normal ratio? Is Windows really creating updates that frequently?

Cheers
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You really need to tell us the specs of your system in order to help you with this. On the surface, it sounds like a computer that is running out of resources.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
My computer is also suffering considerable lag (~ 2mins reaction time) when I inset an SD card to the internal card reader and also on occasion when connecting a USB device such as a mouse.

I would assume these problems are independent of any potential issues caused by running Norton on my PC, as if my memory is correct these problems were occurring prior to installing Norton.
Any ideas?


Lastly, for the last few months I have been required to "install windows updates" upon shutdown for approx every 3 out 5 times.
Is this a normal ratio? Is Windows really creating updates that frequently?

Cheers
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Could you also please tell us how much resources your computer is using at these times? You can do this using Task Manager.
  Ads Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
s3_gunzel - thanks for the confirmation. Seems excessive however.
TheBlacksmith/railblogger - Specs I can access are:


Processor a
1.67 gigahertz Intel Atom N455
56 kilobyte primary memory cache
512 kilobyte secondary memory cache
64-bit ready
Hyper-threaded (2 total)

Drives Memory Modules c,d
235.99 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
156.72 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

WDC WD2500BEVT-22A23T0 [Hard drive] (250.06 GB) -- drive 0, s/n WD-WXG1A3159141, rev 01.01A01, SMART Status: Healthy

1014 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory

Slot 'DIMM0' has 1024 MB

When the PC is seemingly operating at its best:

(I can't upload a small-sized screen cap photo, so here is where it can be seen online)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29513280@N05/12708623875
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
Run the Belarc Advisor as this should provide you with all the specs. Also I can't see your photo - it says "Page not found".
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
When the PC is seemingly operating at its best:
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You appear to only have 1GB RAM of which 799MB is in use. I suggest increasing the RAM to as much as the motherboard can support. RAM is dirt cheap these days, 1GB is unlikely to be adequate.
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
You appear to only have 1GB RAM of which 799MB is in use. I suggest increasing the RAM to as much as the motherboard can support. RAM is dirt cheap these days, 1GB is unlikely to be adequate.
Graham4405

If fact, 1GB is not adequate. Microsoft say 1GB is the minimum for 32 bit operation, 2GB for 64 bit. The reality is you need more.
  s3_gunzel Not a gunzel developer

Location: Western Sydney, AU
s3_gunzel - thanks for the confirmation. Seems excessive however
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As it is Windows, and Windows has a large market share, people target it. Secure computer, or outdated, hacked code?


TheBlacksmith/railblogger - Specs I can access are:

OS - Windows 7, service pack 1
HDD - 143/215GB available
Processor: "not available"
RAM: "not available"

When the PC is seemingly operating at its best:

(I can't upload a small-sized screen cap photo, so here is where it can be seen online)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29513280@N05/12708623875
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Start -> Control Panel -> System and Security -> View amount of RAM and Processor Speed

Should tell you how much RAM and Processor.
  Ads Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
railblogger - thanks I have run [color=#ff6600][size=3][font='Open Sans', Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Belarc Advisor[/font][/size][/color] and have edited my previous post with the results and fixed weblink for the photo.

Graham4405/TheBlacksmith - Yes you are correct, my PC is only operating with 1GB or RAM. It certainly seemed sufficient for the first 12 months I was using the PC, although I suppose I have had to install a few essential programs since then (anti-virus, itunes, a 2nd web browser) and there is now obviously a need for an increased amount of RAM.
I will look into it, thank you.

s3_gunzel - Thankyou for your assistance.
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
Specs I can access are:
Processor 1.67 gigahertz Intel Atom N455
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Very low-end processor.

235.99 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
156.72 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
WDC WD2500BEVT-22A23T0 [Hard drive] (250.06 GB)
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Small HDD by today's standards.

1014 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory
Slot 'DIMM0' has 1024 MB
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As already noted, inadequate RAM.

Is your Windows 7 installation 32-bit or 64-bit?
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
railblogger - thanks I have run [color=#ff6600][size=3][font='Open Sans', Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Belarc Advisor[/font][/size][/color] and have edited my previous post with the results and fixed weblink for the photo.
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No worries. I would recommend adding at least 3GB more RAM and replacing your hard drive with one that is at least 500GB.
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
I would recommend adding at least 3GB more RAM
railblogger

Indeed, but first Ads must ascertain if the motherboard can support it. Also a 32-bit OS can only use ~4GB, so any more would be a waste of money unless intending to move to a 64-bit OS.
  Ads Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Very low-end processor.
Small HDD by today's standards.
As already noted, inadequate RAM.

Is your Windows 7 installation 32-bit or 64-bit?
Graham4405

Thanks Graham.
It's running a 32-bit OS.

It is a very cheap, low end of the market computer.
I have a very basic mobile phone which does not have internet access; so I purchased this small 10 inch computer as a means of being able to check the internet when out and about sitting trackside and for ease of packing when travelling by plane.

Might be time I start looking in the smart-phone/tablet direction for such needs, or upgrading the PC as advised in this thread.
  Mouse Chief Train Controller

Location:
It is a very cheap, low end of the market computer.
I have a very basic mobile phone which does not have internet access; so I purchased this small 10 inch computer...
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In other words a netbook... Can you advise which edition of Windows 7 it's running (Start > Computer > System properties) - Windows 7 Starter (most commonly used on netbooks) cannot use more than 2GB RAM IIRC. (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa366778%28v=vs.85%29.aspx#physical_memory_limits_windows_7)
  Ads Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
In other words a netbook... Can you advise which edition of Windows 7 it's running (Start > Computer > System properties) - Windows 7 Starter (most commonly used on netbooks) cannot use more than 2GB RAM IIRC. (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa366778%28v=vs.85%29.aspx#physical_memory_limits_windows_7)
Mouse

Thanks for the info Mouse. Yes you are correct, the PC is running off Windows 7 Starter.
I'll consider the upgrading to the max of 2GB of RAM.
My main concern was that the slow running of the PC could have been a result of an undetected virus or the like. Sounds like it is more of a hardware issue, which is good as it is easier to deal with.
Thankyou.
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
Thanks for the info Mouse. Yes you are correct, the PC is running off Windows 7 Starter.
I'll consider the upgrading to the max of 2GB of RAM.
My main concern was that the slow running of the PC could have been a result of an undetected virus or the like. Sounds like it is more of a hardware issue, which is good as it is easier to deal with.
Thankyou.
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I don't know if money is an issue here, but you would actually be better off getting a completely new computer, there are too many things in your current one that are low spec. It would depend what you use the computer for, as to whether you go for a tablet style, or perhaps an all-in-one, my preference would be the AIO.
  Ads Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
^
Thankyou TheBlacksmith, I have a few things to consider moving forward it seems.

One last question - Upon starting up windows, or resuming from hibernation; it often takes about 20-30 second for the wifi to kick in and pick up a signal. Another family member who also uses a low-end laptop PC has their wifi connect almost instantaneously.

Is this simply a case of low RAM again, or is there something I can do to speed up the connection-time of my wifi?

Thanks

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