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      Blackadder Chief Commissioner

    Location: Not the ECRL
    Don't think guards will be happy with that decision in the peak at busy underground stations. But I recall a change many years ago when passengers began wearing fluro orange that worked in warehouses etc.
    It caused confusion among staff. But ultimately only one person should be holding a white flag. I do ponder if it is a cost saving exercise.
    T88
    Yes my main concern is the impact it will have on dwell times trying to spot the CSA at places like Town Hall etc in peak hour, given the move to grey and blending in more with office workers etc. Also if there is a emergency on the platform, how easy wil itl be for those needing help to spot the CSA?
    Just from my own experiences since the removal of wearing vests on the barrier at my locality, there have been a number of people coming up asking do I work here , where there was previously never that issue when wearing vests.
    Posted: 24 Jul 2013 18:17

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      wurx Lithgovian Ambassador-at-Large

    Location: The mystical lost principality of Daptovia
    Wearing Hi-Vis generates the perception around the public that something dangerous is going on, it makes passengers less likely to ask staff in hi-vis for help
    Archer
    Rolling Eyes Puhleeeeze!! Rolling Eyes You don't really believe that....do you Question
    Posted: 24 Jul 2013 22:12
      SJB Deputy Commissioner

    Location: Sydney, NSW
    Not only believe it, I've seen it first hand on many occasions.
    Posted: 24 Jul 2013 22:28
      wurx Lithgovian Ambassador-at-Large

    Location: The mystical lost principality of Daptovia
    Not only believe it, I've seen it first hand on many occasions.
    Archer
    You have seen, first hand on many occasions, people hang back from approaching CityRail/RailCorp/etc staff simply because they are HiVis-clad? Don't suppose you could recall any of these occasions?

    Perhaps because of working for this organisation, both as a Town Hall CSA (often HiVis clad) and a guard (occasionally HiVis clad), is why I find your assertion most difficult to believe - and because it's entirely at odds with my experience in both these roles.

    If anything, the HiVis should make the staff member stand out better/be more readily recognisable for anyone intending to come forward for whatever reason. It also makes me wonder if people who are repelled/put off/whatever by the HiVis may have some rather serious issues happening.
    Posted: 25 Jul 2013 00:00
      supersix Deputy Commissioner

    Location: Heathcote N.S.W.
    if they want crew to wear hivis all the time it should be incorporated into the uniform. the vests suck big ones!!
    Posted: 25 Jul 2013 00:11
      T88 Junior Train Controller

    Location: Banned
    Anyone seen a hi-vis vest with Sydney Trains logo?
    Posted: 25 Jul 2013 10:27
      Junction box Chief Commissioner

    Location: newy
    The vest would suck in the summer, are they forced to wear them when they are not on track?
    This is where the Union should step in and say the no vests worked for decades in the past and making staff a target for the public.
    Posted: 25 Jul 2013 10:51
      Raichase Captain Rant!

    Location: Sydney, NSW
    if they want crew to wear hivis all the time it should be incorporated into the uniform. the vests suck big ones!!
    supersix
    Having been issued a "high-vis" polo shirt during my time as a CSA, they don't breathe at all, and are very uncomfortable.
    Posted: 25 Jul 2013 12:22
      Watson374 Chief Commissioner

    Location: Fully reclined at the pointy end.
    The vest would suck in the summer, are they forced to wear them when they are not on track?
    "Junction box"
    I am inclined to believe that the vest is preferable to one of those hi-vis polos.
    Posted: 25 Jul 2013 14:39
      Blackadder Chief Commissioner

    Location: Not the ECRL
    Anyone seen a hi-vis vest with Sydney Trains logo?
    T88
    Nope, not part of the uniform provided for CSAs.
    Supposedly on back order for everyone.
    Posted: 25 Jul 2013 19:43
      jCTate Beginner

    Just to annoy as I have been watching this thread for quite sometime with amusement.
    The Lycra style shirts are history and will be replaced with breathable cotton. The name tag is in dispute with the union and nobody is wearing them.
    Posted: 27 Mar 2014 12:10
      smithagain Junior Train Controller

    Just to annoy as I have been watching this thread for quite sometime with amusement.
    The Lycra style shirts are history and will be replaced with breathable cotton. The name tag is in dispute with the union and nobody is wearing them.
    jCTate

    I hope you're right about replacement cotton.  

    After wearing for last 8 months or so, I've come to the following conclusions regarding new uniform......

    It's uncomfortable - unbreathable and clingy material is not ideal when working in 40 degrees.
    It's unflattering - polyester stretched across man boobs and a beer gut is not a good look.
    It's less recognisable - have had at least 6 times customers ask me do I work here?
    It's difficult to clean - sweat stains still visible after washing. Yuck.
    It's fugly as hell.
    Posted: 29 Mar 2014 12:52
      LegendsofSteam Junior Train Controller

    The New NSW.TL Uniform, is mostly thankfully a direct copy of the current CountryLink Uniform style-wise, so looks like they got something right! Although the blazer & name tag can go to hell, they will disappear after Cheveland St Bridge outbound &  reappear there briefly inbound!
    Posted: 30 Mar 2014 03:22
      Johnny_Walton Railcorp Crash Test Dummy No.1

    Location: Flemington Maintenance Centre
    The New NSW.TL Uniform, is mostly thankfully a direct copy of the current CountryLink Uniform style-wise, so looks like they got something right! Although the blazer & name tag can go to hell, they will disappear after Cheveland St Bridge outbound & reappear there briefly inbound!
    LegendsofSteam

    As you probably know the RTBU challenged NSW Trains uniform policy which says crews must wear the Jacket.
    "When ever crews are in view of our customers"
    The FWC virtually told them to get stuffed!
    Saying in effect "The Employer is giving your members a pretty uniform, go and wear it!"
    The only consolation  was you don't have to wear the jacket in hot/humid weather.

    The real test will be in cooler weather when we turn up in full uniform without the Jacket.
    I.E. Long sleeve Jumper or the wind jacket.
    If we all do that and are refused to be signed on there may many cancelled trains!
    Will look great on Twitter and delay boards.

    The ???? trains has been cancelled because Drivers arrived at work in Full Uniform but their Jackets were at the dry cleaners,
    So they have broken the uniform policy and cannot be signed on duty!
    I reckon wearing the Jacket will become optional VERY quickly. Laughing

    Jono.
    Posted: 01 Apr 2014 14:04

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      User6040

    Location: Banned
    Not to mention "the train has been cancelled today because driver Smith could not find a car spot" This is due to uncle bazza and aunty gladys opening the staff car park to the public. Poor old driver Smith spent 20 mins driving around in circles looking for a vacant space.
    KICK THIS MOB OUT NEXT ELECTION!
    Posted: 01 Apr 2014 19:56
      smithagain Junior Train Controller

    Apparently drivers and guards will be in the new uniform this month.  


    I have a question, will there be anything in the new uniform to differentiate drivers, as there is now?
    Posted: 01 Jun 2014 16:07
      Raichase Captain Rant!

    Location: Sydney, NSW
    I have a question, will there be anything in the new uniform to differentiate drivers, as there is now?
    smithagain

    Yes, drivers shirts are dark grey. Guards shirts are light grey. Same jumpers, pants, scarfs, etc from my observations of staff in the new uniform.
    Posted: 01 Jun 2014 16:22
      smithagain Junior Train Controller

    Yes, drivers shirts are dark grey. Guards shirts are light grey. Same jumpers, pants, scarfs, etc from my observations of staff in the new uniform.
    Raichase

    Thanks for that.
    Posted: 01 Jun 2014 22:11
      littleal9 Train Controller

    Location: bellambi
    Apparently drivers and guards will be in the new uniform this month.


    smithagain

    Still have not been measured/fitted for the new uniform yet, can't see me in it until at least mid July.
    Posted: 02 Jun 2014 16:42
      Blackadder Chief Commissioner

    Location: Not the ECRL
    June 1 was the date for those that have them.
    Had to do a double take seeing the guards with basically the same Uniform as a CSA, I was thinking who is that CSA Laughing
    Posted: 02 Jun 2014 16:53
      wurx Lithgovian Ambassador-at-Large

    Location: The mystical lost principality of Daptovia
    Yes, drivers shirts are dark grey. Guards shirts are light grey. Same jumpers, pants, scarfs, etc from my observations of staff in the new uniform.
    Raichase

    That may be the case for Sydney Trains crew; from what I have seen of my newly uniformed NSW Trains colleagues thus far, not a bit of discernible difference, and virtually no difference between us crew & the NSW Trains station staff.

    That said, I will look a little more closely - and ask - and report back with my findings Smile

    BTW what I'm currently wearing still has lazy sevens all over it; still awaiting the arrival of my newie.
    Posted: 03 Jun 2014 01:11

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