Echuca Line Crossing Upgrades

 
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Will Myki be valid to Epsom?
712M

Most likely as the media release mentions the 'ticketing facility'

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  mickamious Junior Train Controller

I can confirm that our blokes just completed a signage upgrade from Echuca to Deniliquin approximate 2 months ago now, whether this was something that needed to be done to allow the restrictions to be lifted im unsure of.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
I can confirm that our blokes just completed a signage upgrade from Echuca to Dennilquinn approximate 2 months ago now, whether this was something that needed to be done to allow the restrictions to be lifted im unsure of.
Grosso

I hope the 'blokes' doing the signage upgrade can spell 'Deniliquin' better than you can....
  Duncs Chief Commissioner

I hope the 'blokes' doing the signage upgrade can spell 'Deniliquin' better than you can....
The Vinelander

Vinelander stop being picky, just be grateful someone like Grosso is keeping us up to date.
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
I wonder whether VicRoads will lift the 80km speed restriction on the Midland Highway at Bagshot when this is all done. That crossing even has a speed camera (or is it a red light camera, or both maybe?) beside it.

http://goo.gl/maps/b6vyk

Somehow, I suspect that they won't.
  mickamious Junior Train Controller

I hope the 'blokes' doing the signage upgrade can spell 'Deniliquin' better than you can....
The Vinelander


Touche'
I do apologize as it wasn't myself who looked after that project but i appreciate your spelling correction for me.
Thank you.
  trainbrain Deputy Commissioner

I hope the 'blokes' doing the signage upgrade can spell 'Deniliquin' better than you can....
The Vinelander

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  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Vinelander stop being picky, just be grateful someone like Grosso is keeping us up to date.
Duncs

Sorry...no can do...

If a guy who does signage for a job can't spell the localities for the said signs...

Feel free to insult me; voices from above...I'll go about my contributions as I always do.

Mike.
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

I wonder whether VicRoads will lift the 80km speed restriction on the Midland Highway at Bagshot when this is all done. That crossing even has a speed camera (or is it a red light camera, or both maybe?) beside it.

http://goo.gl/maps/b6vyk

Somehow, I suspect that they won't.
mikesyd

IIRC the speed limit in Victoria approaching all level crossings is 80kmh for all road traffic.  So not likely .
  Duncs Chief Commissioner

Sorry...no can do...

If a guy who does signage for a job can't spell the localities for the said signs...
The Vinelander

It may have ben a simple typo so I would cut him some slack
  mickamious Junior Train Controller

Sorry...no can do...

If a guy who does signage for a job can't spell the localities for the said signs...
The Vinelander


LOL we don't do signage as a complete profession, asin billboards etc, we're a construction company who went installed new railway crossing signs as most of the crossing between Echuca & Deniliquin** had inadequate signage of an approaching active railway line and i believe this was an issue to have the speed restrictions remain along the line.
I have NO issue with you correcting my grammar but you seriously have issues by thinking a human being is immune from making spelling errors, but i will say sorry for making a grammatical error about a town as im sure you've never made any.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
.....but i will say sorry for making a grammatical error about a town as im sure you've never made any.
Grosso

I can't spell that locality in Wales...

Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwyll-llantysiliogogogoch

Mike.
  ZH836301 Chief Commissioner

Location: BleakCity
I don't have a huge interest in the Bendigo services however whilst the original plan was to have alternate services operating between Epsom & Eaglehawk, it's not a waste of money to spend $9 million on a station with growing patronage at Epsom.
The Whinelander

$9 million?  For two trains per day each way?  Clearly we have differing expectations of reasonable.

I wonder whether VicRoads will lift the 80km speed restriction on the Midland Highway at Bagshot when this is all done. That crossing even has a speed camera (or is it a red light camera, or both maybe?) beside it.

http://goo.gl/maps/b6vyk

Somehow, I suspect that they won't.
mikesyd

Combined red light / speed camera - it presumably makes easy money from the latter.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Even your beloved Scumbury started out with a scant service when the Mt Alexander Railway company introduced trains in the 1860's.

Do you think that forever and a day...that is, long after you and I are dead there will be a minimal service frequency through places like Epsom and Talbot?
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
You are way out of line Mike. Please refrain from making comments about a personal nature.

Grosso's contributions are appreciated as are all users who contribute. Everyone is human.

Your contributions are appreciated but not when they are personal.
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

I suspect that given all the new housing development in the nearby Huntly/Epsom area, along with new rolling stock, service frequency should be increased in coming years.  I hope.
  Rodo Chief Commissioner

Location: Southern Riverina
Epsom is already the centre of quite a place and there are a lot of housing developments coming on. It and Eaglehawk will become the termini for most Bendigo trains, I would say.
  ZH836301 Chief Commissioner

Location: BleakCity
Do you think that forever and a day...that is, long after you and I are dead there will be a minimal service frequency through places like Epsom and Talbot?
The Whinelander

Build it when it is actually guaranteed proper service.  For now it is just a monumental waste of money.

Should we upgrade the Western Hwy to freeway all the way to Adelaide now because it might be warranted in 10 years?
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

Should we upgrade the Western Hwy to freeway all the way to Adelaide now because it might be warranted in 10 years?
"ZH836301"

I suspect more people would appreciate that freeway upgrade than will use the train service to Epsom when the station opens.
  wyche123 Locomotive Fireman

Have all the up-grades been done? What is the holdup on lifting speed restrictions and adding services?
  Duncs Chief Commissioner

The 75kmh speed for DRC between Bendigo and Echuca is self imposed by V/Line after detailed risk asessment following a collision between a V/Locity and a truck carrying a slab of bluestone at Trawalla some years ago in which there were several fatalities. Until such time as current lx upgrades are complete the 75kmh remains. Some years ago the line was CWR and relaid with reclaimed 94lb rail between Rochester and Echuca. As such the upgarde was designed to allow DMU at 100kmh .

The crossings remaining to be done supposedely by 30/06/13 were :

Holdsworth Road, North Bendigo to be BB
Nelson St, California Gully to be BB
Prouses Rd, Bendigo North
Elmore - Minto Rd, Elmore to be BB

Once the lx program covering 13 crossings is complete line speed for DMU will be increased to at least 100kmh . It is understood that the circuitry has been set up to allow for ultimately a maximum speed for DMU of 115kmh .
kuldalai

Just checking in to see if all the level crossings have now been upgraded.

With regard to potential 115 kmh line speed, is that a realistic goal? If so which sections of track might go up to 115 kmh?
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
To effetely rise train speeds the timetable for the line needs to be redone, ells trains will have long dwell time at Intermediate stations waiting for the timetable to catch up (trains leaving a station before their timetabled departure would be unacceptable and very bad PR for V/Line)
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

Over three years ago the Bendigo - Echuca line received in an upgrade in that the old jointed rail between Rochester & Echuca was relaid with 94lb  rail cascaded ex the RFR upgrades. The section Bendigo - Rochester was already 94lb rail . The entire section Bendigo - Echuca was then continuously welded  (CWR).  A tie renewal and surfacing cycle followed .

In November 2011  Minister Mulder announced a multi million $  program to instal boom barriers at 13 crossings on the line by June, 2013 .  On completion of the project the Minister promised that line speed would be increased to 100kmh for DMU with Echuca travel times being reduced by 15 minutes.

We are now a year overdue and it is not clear if the program is complete, and Echuca trains are still rattling along at a pathetic 75 kmh .    Any opposition Shadow Minister worth her salt should have been onto the Minister re non-delivery, but is not the least bit interested.

It is understood that the LX equipment has actually been set up to eventually allow for Class-2 track standards with DMU operation at 130kmh .

The existing track standard should allow for 100kmh as promised for DMU .  We live in eternal hope.  The Riverine Herald should also have been onto the Minister as to why Echuca trains are still crawling along at the pathetic 75kmh when the Minister promised 100kmh by June, 2013 .
  Duncs Chief Commissioner

A good question. Its not that hard to fix this properly.
  woodford Chief Commissioner

Over three years ago the Bendigo - Echuca line received in an upgrade in that the old jointed rail between Rochester & Echuca was relaid with 94lb rail cascaded ex the RFR upgrades. The section Bendigo - Rochester was already 94lb rail . The entire section Bendigo - Echuca was then continuously welded (CWR). A tie renewal and surfacing cycle followed .

In November 2011 Minister Mulder announced a multi million $ program to instal boom barriers at 13 crossings on the line by June, 2013 . On completion of the project the Minister promised that line speed would be increased to 100kmh for DMU with Echuca travel times being reduced by 15 minutes.

We are now a year overdue and it is not clear if the program is complete, and Echuca trains are still rattling along at a pathetic 75 kmh . Any opposition Shadow Minister worth her salt should have been onto the Minister re non-delivery, but is not the least bit interested.

It is understood that the LX equipment has actually been set up to eventually allow for Class-2 track standards with DMU operation at 130kmh .

The existing track standard should allow for 100kmh as promised for DMU . We live in eternal hope. The Riverine Herald should also have been onto the Minister as to why Echuca trains are still crawling along at the pathetic 75kmh when the Minister promised 100kmh by June, 2013 .
kuldalai


My impression from observing the work is that inspite of it being a "multi million dollar project", its either being done on "the cheap" or its being done when spare money is availible. I have been over there around 8 times now and its rare to see any work being done, but each time one does see that more has been done. So the crossing upgrade appears not being done as one continous job.
From memory last time I checked all but one crossing had been done, the last crossing had had hardware installed but it had not been wired up.

woodford

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