HOBSONS BAY at Union H all at Latrobe University Bundoora Campus

 
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
For those that haven’t had their ear to the ground we are at a new venue:Union H all at Latrobe University Bundoora Campus.
Parking is at Car Park 4 which is best accessed from the intersection of Waterdale Rd and Kingsbury Drive. - Melway Map 19 Ref G7.

Now is your chance to have your models judged by some of Victoria's best Model Railway Judges.
As per usual John Gilbert has gathered them back together for 2014.
Entry forms are here.



Rod Young

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  Hendo Deputy Commissioner

For those that haven’t had their ear to the ground we are at a new venue:Union H all at Latrobe University Bundoora Campus.
Parking is at Car Park 4 which is best accessed from the intersection of Waterdale Rd and Kingsbury Drive. - Melway Map 19 Ref G7.

Now is your chance to have your models judged by some of Victoria's best Model Railway Judges.
As per usual John Gilbert has gathered them back together for 2014.
Entry forms are here.
http://pics.victrainz.com.au/modelling%20comp%20entry%202014.doc

Cheers
Rod Young
comtrain

I would check your system and the document for viruses, my version of MSWord would not open it as there is a problem with the file.


Cheers,
Hendo
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
Yes, same here.
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
Sorry that it did not work for all.
If you try it now,could you please let us know if it works?
It may be our site was been reported as bad incorrectly, to your anti viral prog.
Avira has no problems with it
Cheers
Rod

edit I downloaded the original link and printed it out. Then rescanned it using Infanview with .pdf addon and reloaded it to original site. I then did reorder my file names, as the spacing added question marks might be the problem?
  lkernan Assistant Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
edit I downloaded the original link and printed it out. Then rescanned it using Infanview with .pdf addon
comtrain


May I suggest you grab the free pdf printer from here:  http://www.bullzip.com/products/pdf/info.php
Then all you have to do is print (from any program that can print) to the pdf printer and you'll get a pdf file out.  Saves a whole lot of printing and scanning.
  trawny Train Controller

Location: Victoria
Sorry that it did not work for all.
If you try it now,could you please let us know if it works?
It may be our site was been reported as bad incorrectly, to your anti viral prog.
Avira has no problems with it
Cheers
Rod

edit I downloaded the original link and printed it out. Then rescanned it using Infanview with .pdf addon and reloaded it to original site. I then did reorder my file names, as the spacing added question marks might be the problem?
comtrain

Hi Rod,

It downloaded fine on my iPhone. When opening with my PC it opens in protected mode. (I think this might be a default Microsoft thing to protect your computer when downloading word documents from the internet. I have had it before with other emails and I don't know how it chooses protected mode or not. ) You can then 'trust' the file and enable editing.

Cheers Trawny
  ALCO4401 Train Controller

Location: On the Branch waiting for a train order, west of Tarana
Opened alright for me on my mac.
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
May I suggest you grab the free pdf printer from here: http://www.bullzip.com/products/pdf/info.php
Then all you have to do is print (from any program that can print) to the pdf printer and you'll get a pdf file out. Saves a whole lot of printing and scanning.
lkernan

Ha Ha
The internet is Borked Wink
Forbidden! You do not have permission to......
Cheers
Rod
  wolfpac Minister for Railways

Location: Over here...
More recent versions of MS Word have Save As PDF built into it, also.

Word will open files from the Internet/mapped drives ('remote' locations) in Protected Mode, so that will stop you printing, resaving etc. It may make a mess of some formatting.

In any case, I'm looking forward to the show! Very Happy

Wolfpac
  wanabetraindrvr Junior Train Controller

Hello I see auscion is there what other traders are there please.
  wanabetraindrvr Junior Train Controller

thinking about going for a look today and just wondering if trainbuilder and psm might be at this show as well as auscision . have looked on all the websites but cant find a answer ??
  LaidlayM Chief Commissioner

Location: Research
Eureka plan to attend and I'd be surprised if SEM aren't there.
  anzac1959 Chief Commissioner

Any reports or pictures ?
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
Didn't see SEM, and they're not noted in the guide. I did see the stunning LDP005 sample from Auscision, those beautiful Austrains dogbox passenger carriages, drooled over Southern Rail's Vlocity, and gasped at the surprise from SDS (pictured). Oh, and Eureka's 50 class looks pretty gosh darn good.
  TrainTree Train Controller

Location: Eltham
Any reports or pictures ?
anzac1959

I've debated responding to this question and decided that I should.

I went this morning and was disappointed. The exhibition was in a much smaller hall than previously and I was horrified to find that of the 36 stands only 10 were layouts, two of these layouts were no shows. The remainder were stalls selling something while there were the show competition and model building stands.

I walked around when the show was far from busy but found myself bumping into people despite the lower volume of attendees. The cramped space made it next to impossible to get any decent views of the few layouts that were there.

I was in and out in 10 minutes, that's 1 dollar a minute.

Not what I was expecting.
  allambi_mk2 Locomotive Fireman

Location: South Yarra, Victoria
I've debated responding to this question and decided that I should.

I went this morning and was disappointed. The exhibition was in a much smaller hall than previously and I was horrified to find that of the 36 stands only 10 were layouts, two of these layouts were no shows. The remainder were stalls selling something while there were the show competition and model building stands.

I walked around when the show was far from busy but found myself bumping into people despite the lower volume of attendees. The cramped space made it next to impossible to get any decent views of the few layouts that were there.

I was in and out in 10 minutes, that's 1 dollar a minute.

Not what I was expecting.
TrainTree

Agreed. I was extremely disappointed as well.

There was a distinct lack of layouts compared to retailers. This was an exhibition I looked forward to every year. It was different to the "major" two Melbourne exhibitions, in that it seemed to showcase more layouts than retailers. I felt it has now replicated the other two, but in a smaller format.

I won't be back next year.
  Bills_Billboards Chief Commissioner

From a traders view , today was one of the best days i have had at a exhibition for a very long time , Exhibition in general yes 2 layouts were missing with good reason , things happen some times out side of the clubs control . The exhibition hall is in fact larger than previous at Collingwood with a very well served canteen just down the stairs , the best food i have seen at ANY exhibition any where i have seen and at a very fair price aswell unlike the 2 major shows in Melbourne you get real food no over priced rubbish , Isle ways there is plenty of room to get around , it did get a bit crowded a couple of times but thats what you have to expect on the first day of any show (dont like crowds come on the 2nd or 3rd day)
Hobsons Bay has always been known as the modelers exhibition with a decent trade input and can not be compared to the other big 2 as Hobsons is all Australian prototype show where the other 2 take any prototype and have a much larger pool of layouts to target , the layouts are all of high quality this show is known for

Bills Billboards
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
I've debated responding to this question and decided that I should.

I went this morning and was disappointed. The exhibition was in a much smaller hall than previously and I was horrified to find that of the 36 stands only 10 were layouts, two of these layouts were no shows. The remainder were stalls selling something while there were the show competition and model building stands.

I walked around when the show was far from busy but found myself bumping into people despite the lower volume of attendees. The cramped space made it next to impossible to get any decent views of the few layouts that were there.

I was in and out in 10 minutes, that's 1 dollar a minute.

Not what I was expecting.
TrainTree

Really sorry you were disappointed Sad
We really did try our best to please you.  Unfortunately we lost two layouts due to unforeseen circumstances. The organizers had three back up layouts, unfortunately none of the three layouts did fit the two vacant spaces. It should be said that the notice was very late.
I spent most of the day chatting to people coming and going. I think I spoke to several hundreds, and I asked every one, how they found it. I never got any really negative replies. Yes we all wanted more layouts but the quality of those we had was pretty good.
The traders were all very pleased with our new venue and appeared happy with their sales.

I got to tell you all I only saw smiley faces, everywhere but I know   we had issues with directing people around the rabbit warren they call Latrobe University. I am fairly positive that the students waste their first year fully, learning navigation skills, on how to get between the car parks and their lecture halls.

We have learned a hell of a lot from day 1, we can improve and we will.

I want you all to know that we are only a very tiny club, about to lose our club rooms as the greedy bureaucrats, kick all us "freeloaders" out of their vacant buildings so that they might get bulldozed so our city land developers can rip us all off again for their own short term gains. 31 members can turn up and do the best they can whilst also dismantling their huge layout and arranging storage . Also finding new accomadations with the help of VicTracks and a hell of a lot of work from our committee.
As a country cousin who only gets to visit the club once or twice a year, I believe the Club did a good job. Again I am truly sorry if some did not think it was good enough
But I truly believe you should not be discouraged from coming. Just meeting all your friends there and chatting is always the best part of coming to Australia's best modellers exhibition. Yes were here for modellers and modellers of Australian outline
Sincerely
Rod Young
  John_Bushell Chief Commissioner

Location: Brisbane
I got to tell you all I only saw smiley faces, everywhere but I know we had issues with directing people around the rabbit warren they call Latrobe University.
Just meeting all your friends there and chatting is always the best part of coming to Australia's best modellers exhibition. Yes were here for modellers and modellers of Australian outline
Sincerely
Rod Young
comtrain

Yes, we have a similar problem in Brisbane with our second effort at conducting a model train exhibition in a rabbit warren, AKA Doomben Racecourse, coming up in a couple of weeks.  I am not in the AMRA organizing party, but I am sure they are working hard on how to get people directed around the warren to visit all burrows.  Of course there is the added complication of getting to the second story, or first for that matter.  Luckily our club is on the ground floor.   I am sure AMRA will give it their best shot.  Just shows good venues are not easy to find.

Glad to hear that the Hobsons Bay Show is going well under the circumstances and you are meeting mates.  I trust many stayed longer than 10 minutes.

Best regards,
John
  Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
While the exhibition wasn't as good as it used to be, I see it as something to be expected when it's been two years since the last one. Sure there might be a large number of trade stands but it's just another opportunity to raid the Auscision Bargain bin! Wink

Anyway, while there wasn't too many layouts, I'm confident that there'd be more next year. Perhaps those complaining about the lack of them would care to put theirs up for exhibition? RazzTwisted Evil
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
While the exhibition wasn't as good as it used to be, I see it as something to be expected when it's been two years since the last one. Sure there might be a large number of trade stands but it's just another opportunity to raid the Auscision Bargain bin! Wink

Anyway, while there wasn't too many layouts, I'm confident that there'd be more next year. Perhaps those complaining about the lack of them would care to put theirs up for exhibition? RazzTwisted Evil
Greensleeves

I got to tell you that layouts or lack of layouts is not the problem for 2015. Already we are looking at finding ways to stack more in. We can maybe increase the room available by recovering the huge space behind the curtain?
This year we unfortunately lost two layouts we desperately needed to ice the cake. Hopefully we can show them next year Smile
Cheers
Rod
  Bufferstop Station Master

Location: Melbourne
I went this morning and was disappointed. The exhibition was in a much smaller hall than previously and I was horrified to find that of the 36 stands only 10 were layouts, two of these layouts were no shows. The remainder were stalls selling something while there were the show competition and model building stands.

I walked around when the show was far from busy but found myself bumping into people despite the lower volume of attendees. The cramped space made it next to impossible to get any decent views of the few layouts that were there.
TrainTree

These are the facts not perceptions.

As one of the members involved in the measuring up the hall layout, I can tell you that the space is equal to that of our previous venue but with better facilities. All aisle ways are 3 metres wide with one pinch point that reduces to 2 metres wide, a numbers of visitors in wheelchairs were able to negotiate these without difficulty.  There were almost a thousand visitors on Saturday!

One of the numbered stands was the entry foyer. Yes we could have fitted more layouts in at the expense of aisle way space, but then you would have had to work your way round one way only in single file to the exit like an IKEA store. We just can't please everybody.
  Bufferstop Station Master

Location: Melbourne
Agreed. I was extremely disappointed as well.

There was a distinct lack of layouts compared to retailers. This was an exhibition I looked forward to every year. It was different to the "major" two Melbourne exhibitions, in that it seemed to showcase more layouts than retailers. I felt it has now replicated the other two, but in a smaller format.

I won't be back next year.
allambi_mk2

Again this is factual not perception.

I have just checked our exhibition guides and for the last 10 years the number of traders has always been greater than the layouts. So we have not suddenly changed the format. One year we only presented 6 layouts but they were all extremely large. I will however agree that the type and size of the trader has changed over the years. Initially we had all the cottage industries at our show and the Australian model industry was small. Today we have many more companies supplying our products, larger and more commercial than the early days, which shows we have progressed and I wouldn't wish it any other way.
  LaidlayM Chief Commissioner

Location: Research
It was worth attending just to see the layouts I haven't seen before.  Wallan (in H0) was excellent for a first showing.

Mark
  M636C Minister for Railways

My first visit to LaTrobe University ever. I got lost in the car park leaving...

I thought it was good on Sunday, but the crowds were a bit thin.

I spoke to a number of people I knew, but only two were from Melbourne.
Since many of the layouts were quite large, the trade/display balance appeared good to me.

I succumbed to another Austrains DL since the price had dropped further.

I was close to buying the ARHS reprint of the VR 1914 diagram book (reduced to $148 ) but I have a full photocopy of an original and the three volume compilation books already so I let it pass.

The painted Auscision LDP did indeed look good (I saw it as James McInerney took it away to photograph).
The Auscision XPT, and the Velocity on the Southern Models stand, looked promising.

I'd seen all the Austrains new stock before...

M636C

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