Victorian Budget - 2014 BLOG

 
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Here is the blog for today. coverage from 4pm.

Included in the budget will be:

1. East West Link
2. North South Link (we know nothing about)
3. Melbourne Airport Rail Project
4. Melbourne Metro Rail tunnel (revised route)
5. Upgrade of Mildura line (Business case to follow)
6. Caroline Springs Railway Station

Might be in the budget

1. More funding for vline
2. More trains for Metro

Any takers?

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  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Here is the blog for today. coverage from 4pm.

Included in the budget will be:

4. Melbourne Metro Rail tunnel (revised route)
bevans

A route that does not go where the punters want to go to !

Use TBM's, not rip up Swanston Street !
  HardSleeper Junior Train Controller

Location: Route 48
2. North South Link (we know nothing about)
bevans

Eastern Freeway - Ring Road link? Now that both stages of E-W link are going to be jammed through, the Prime Minister for Roads will have to start looking for something else to build. IMO though this link would be useful than E-W.


4. Melbourne Metro Rail tunnel (revised route)

I still can't believe they even contemplated this. Do those incompetent clowns at the PTV puppet not realise that the trains are full to the brim because they go to the CBD? It'll be thirty years before there's anything at Fishermans Bend worth building a rail link for and in the meantime everyone will change at South Yarra and cram onto an already packed train to get to the CBD. This is like deciding to build E-W from Parkville to Brunswick because it would be too disruptive to dig up Alexandra Parade. Utter, utter stupidity of the highest order.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
I still can't believe they even contemplated this. Do those incompetent clowns at the PTV puppet not realise that the trains are full to the brim because they go to the CBD? It'll be thirty years before there's anything at Fishermans Bend worth building a rail link for and in the meantime everyone will change at South Yarra and cram onto an already packed train to get to the CBD. This is like deciding to build E-W from Parkville to Brunswick because it would be too disruptive to dig up Alexandra Parade. Utter, utter stupidity of the highest order.
HardSleeper

Well said HardSleeper! The metro tunnel was designed to increase capacity in the city, not to serve Fisherman's Bend.
That would be better off having an upgraded bus service.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Well said HardSleeper! The metro tunnel was designed to increase capacity in the city, not to serve Fisherman's Bend.
That would be better off having an upgraded bus service.
railblogger

If this Government Is so keen to expend passenger transport links to Fisherman's Bend, well the should upgrade and expand the Port Melbourne light rail line.
  X'Trapolis-904M Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
what is the route for the metro rail tunnel?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
what is the route for the metro rail tunnel?
X'Trapolis-904M


references:

http://www.railpage.com.au/news/article-13853

http://www.railpage.com.au/news/article-13847
  Bogong Chief Commissioner

Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
The major train announcements in the budget are the airport line plus a new tunnel from near Spencer Street Station to Fisherman's bend - Domain - South Yarra.

As Fisherman's bend is to be a major new Docklands style development, I guess it makes sense to have a rail station there?
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
As Fisherman's bend is to be a major new Docklands style development, I guess it makes sense to have a rail station there?
Bogong

But not on this line.

Fisherman's Bend should be on a new line from Merri (Northcote) to Newport (Wydham Vale - Mernda line)
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
In an election year budget, the Napthine government has picked up on the public mood and gone all out on transport spending, pledging that up to $24 billion will be invested in major new road and rail projects that will transform Melbourne.

The showpiece of this year's budget is the "Melbourne Rail Link", a 7.5 kilometre tunnel from South Yarra to Southern Cross Station that the government says will deliver a 30 per cent boost to rail capacity, carrying 35,000 extra passengers per hour on 30 extra train services.
With $830 million committed over the next four years, starting with a modest $40 million in this budget, the Melbourne Rail Link is scheduled to open in 2023, Treasurer Michael O'Brien said.

"Melbourne Rail Link will be the biggest expansion of the rail network since Henry Bolte created the City Loop," Mr O'Brien said.

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So Kensington is now out of scope? It is going to take 9 years to complete the project.

How much money has been allocated to transport projects outside of Melbourne?
  HardSleeper Junior Train Controller

Location: Route 48
The Age

News Very Limited also reports that:

The new super line will go through the City Loop before following the routes of the Alamein, Belgrave and Lilydale lines.


So presumably everyone who wants Flinders Street will pile onto a packed tram at Domain? Which was the other reason for the original alignment, to reduce the demand for trams along Swanston Street. What an utter joke...
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

Read page 5 of this report for Regional Vic:
http://www.dtf.vic.gov.au/files/86b545e0-338a-4963-a9bc-a32300fc40de/Budget-Information-Paper-Regional-and-Rural-Victoria.pdf

One very interesting map, that's for sure!

In a nutshell:
- 3 options for Mildura SG + Murrayville line likely converted to SG also.
- Future SG conversion of Deni and Tocumwal lines, along with dual gauge freight to Port of Hastings.  Future DG too for Werribee - Donnybrook link.
- Robinvale and Kulwin lines remaining BG (outer sections reopened).
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
i can't believe this package is coming from a liberal or conservative government. unbelievable.  will it all get delivered?

if so then goodnight labor
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Won't be in the State Budget:-
More hospital beds.
Decent pay rises for the ambos.
Repairs or new buildings for schools in safe Labor seats.
Rowville, Avalon and Doncaster rail lines as promised before the last election.

Yes, I know; I'm a cynic - I smell flowers and immediately look for the funeral.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
So how Is Napthine's tunnel route going to carry 35 000 people per hour, when he said the Parkville route will only carry 20 000 people per hour ? I can't see them being any different In terms of capacity ? But Napthine's route will have 2 less stations, therefore being much less useful.

Flinders Street Underground Station, Central Station and Parkville would be high passenger generators.
  Bogong Chief Commissioner

Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
Won't be in the State Budget:-
More hospital beds.
Decent pay rises for the ambos.
Repairs or new buildings for schools in safe Labor seats.
Rowville, Avalon and Doncaster rail lines as promised before the last election.

Yes, I know; I'm a cynic - I smell flowers and immediately look for the funeral.
Valvegear

Even just looking at the Geelong region. brand new big hospital in northern Geelong as well as Waurn Ponds Community hospital.

Several shiny new schools in the area including one at bannockburn, another at Torquay and a Special development school in Northern Geelong (yes, that's a very safe Labour electorate.)

And somehow I think a rail line to Tulla will be a lot more useful to a lot more people than a line to Avalon which (sadly) has declining passenger numbers.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
And somehow I think a rail line to Tulla will be a lot more useful to a lot more people than a line to Avalon which (sadly) has declining passenger numbers.
Bogong

The Avalon Airport rail link Is just a few planed lines on a map.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
$1 billion for level crossing upgrades.

A good win for the stupid people Razz
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
$1 billion for level crossing upgrades.

A good win for the stupid people Razz
bingley hall

Though helps to get these stupid people clear of moving trains.
  X'Trapolis-904M Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Channel 7 Filmed a bit of the budget at Bun Cam
  Bogong Chief Commissioner

Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
Here is a video about the urban rail changes. The first 30 seconds or so has introductory feel good stuff, but the rest of the video shows the future vision for urban rail including very new through routing that I haven't seen before such as Dandenong line trains running right through to the airport.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBoLlOv97oA

  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
It seems as though the government is adamant the only way to avoid digging up Swanston St is by taking this ridiculous route, which as other have identified is clearly not so.
  Galron Deputy Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
that pdf that lists quite a bit of whats happening. transport wise lists on page 30 these ones, some of which we already know about that i noted


funding of $22 million to build and operate the new train station at Grovedale Station;
funding of $10 million for the improvement of the Warrnambool to Geelong rail link;
investigating the viability of rail services between South Geelong to Drysdale and Grovedale to Torquay.

perhaps the first time a rail trail has been reclaimed for rail if the line to torquay ever happens?

what needs doing on the warrnabool line? or would this just be mainternance?

Expensive rail station at 22 million. would hope it includes stabling facilities at that price.
  lkernan Assistant Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Expensive rail station at 22 million. would hope it includes stabling facilities at that price.
Galron


It's to build AND operate.  Depending on how long it includes and how many staff, etc, the operational costs would add up.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
It seems as though the government is adamant the only way to avoid digging up Swanston St is by taking this ridiculous route, which as other have identified is clearly not so.
railblogger

It's purely to kow-tow to property developers in the new Fisherman's Bend development but they really should finish filling up Docklands before they try and extend the CBD to Docklands.  Arden Street and Parkville (Melbourne Uni, the terminus of almost all south-eastern trams) as identified in Eddingtunnel is a much more sensible idea, even though I still don't support it as a priority.  Apart from that the only other (new) good idea presented in the budget was the through-routing of all lines - which has already been progressing in the last six or seven years anyway - but it would be good to see it completed.

I'm not sure of their capacity to actually win in November anyway - Napthine at war with factions in his own party about pre-selection, Geoff Shaw threatening supply... things don't look good for winning an election even with this enormous last-minute cash-splash.

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