Train on fire at Snowtown

 
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Not much heard from train radio, but plenty from CFS channels, Dangerous good train burning near snowtown from what I understand from what I've heard it is a chemical fire "various acids" with adjacent cars containing urainium.


MFS: *CFSRES INC0053 21/08/14 11:00 RESPOND HAZMAT, ALARM LEVEL: 1, LOT 25 RAILWAY TCE SNOWTOWN,MAP:C/266


54,TG 065, == FIRE ON TRAIN IN SNOWTOWN DANGEROUS GOOD ON TRAIN :CLAR24P H LCHL34 PTWK24P H :CLAR24P H HZ: WATTS R4 TAPSCOT: SNOW34 :

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  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
believed to be 3da2 being lead by gwu001.
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
4sa8 the indian pacific is now south of crystal brook and heading toward snowtown so would expect some delays.
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
3da2 is still at snowtown with 4sa8 about to pass.
  62440 Chief Commissioner

Grainy in the branch probably held up too. IP has passed ok
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Grainy in the branch probably held up too
62440


1471s is also stuck. lead by 2210
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
3da2 is still at snowtown with 4sa8 about to pass.
JimYarin


3da2 still at snowtown and the grainy.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Not much heard from train radio, but plenty from CFS channels, Dangerous good train burning near snowtown from what I understand from what I've heard it is a chemical fire "various acids" with adjacent cars containing urainium.
"freightgate"


From the link provided by Sojourner

"Smouldering acid raises alarm in Snowtown
Firefighters are monitoring a potential chemical hazard in Snowtown, north of Adelaide, after being alerted to a smouldering drum of hydrochloric acid on a freight train.
The Country Fire Service (CFS) says it received reports just after 11am (CST) on Thursday that a 1000 litre drum of hydrochloric acid was smouldering as it was transported on a freight train.
A hazmat crew is at the scene at Railway Terrace but there has been no spillage to pose any significant threat, a CFS spokesman says.
© AAP 2014"
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
From the link provided by Sojourner

"Smouldering acid raises alarm in Snowtown
Firefighters are monitoring a potential chemical hazard in Snowtown, north of Adelaide, after being alerted to a smouldering drum of hydrochloric acid on a freight train.
The Country Fire Service (CFS) says it received reports just after 11am (CST) on Thursday that a 1000 litre drum of hydrochloric acid was smouldering as it was transported on a freight train.
A hazmat crew is at the scene at Railway Terrace but there has been no spillage to pose any significant threat, a CFS spokesman says.
© AAP 2014"
Pressman

Hydrochloric Acid does not burn or I would have thought smolder. The most concentrated form in liquid state is 33% acid in water by weight. Exposure to skin is not recommended especially eyes and can cause long term damage here, but if splashed over you its not like battery acid that melts the skin. If exposed to steel it eats the rust.

If heated up the HCl will evolve as a gas and this is a bit nasty to inhale.

The 1000L drum is usually a bulk-a-box, which is a roughly 1 x 1 x 1m plastic cube in a steel cage, so perhaps the drum has been affected by other sources.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Thank you or the appriasal. The train has reached Adelaide after a considerable delay at Snowtown.

3DA2 actually passed the previous days service.
  NG Sulzers Deputy Commissioner

Location: Quorn
3DA2 passed the previous days service. If I'm reading that right, 3DA2 passed 2DA2?
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
4da2 passed 3da2
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Hydrochloric Acid does not burn or I would have thought smolder.
RTT_Rules

No, but it will liberate chlorine gas which is a sufficiently strong oxidising agent to cause much concern. I have seen timber exposed to concentrated hydrochloric acid oxidise with sufficient heat liberated to cause the wood to ignite.
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
is the atsb intending to write a report on the issue at snowtown?
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
is the atsb intending to write a report on the issue at snowtown?
JimYarin

Simple answer would appear to be , no

http://http://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/safety-investigation-reports.aspx?mode=Rail

Minor incident - why waste taxpayers money?

I'm sure there are various state based bodies that can deal with any statutory inquiries.

#nottheendoftheworld
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
thks bingley.  i could not imagine this either.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

There is now an ATSB investigation.

They seem to think it was related to a helicopter crash in WA though…

  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Wonder if the ATSB will have an investigation into the cross contamination of their Aviation and Rail report pages
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Wonder if the ATSB will have an investigation into the cross contamination of their Aviation and Rail report pages
"Pressman"
It would probably lead to the recommendation that the ATSB should avoid barbecues for staff functions.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
It would probably lead to the recommendation that the ATSB should avoid barbecues for staff functions.
justapassenger

Especially if it's being cooked by an English migrant, but then most of the 'local' staff would already know that anyway.
  Alco_Haulic Chief Commissioner

Location: Eating out...
The 1000L drum is usually a bulk-a-box, which is a roughly 1 x 1 x 1m plastic cube in a steel cage, so perhaps the drum has been affected by other sources.
RTT_Rules

Best known as IBC's, Intermediate Bulk Container. They are a hell of a lot easier to restrain on trucks than 44-gallon drums, but they do have other issues. For instance, I can load petrol in 44-gallon drums on a semi, and not need a dangerous goods license. However, ONE IBC and I need a DG license.

A few companies bring loaded IBC's out from the Territory in boxes. I've run a load of Ethyl Glycol for NQX once out of Islington. One very heavy load.

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