'Trams de Nuit' (Trams at Night) - Photography and Enthusiasts night

 
  409 Minister for Railways

On the 20th of September, the Tramway Museum at St Kilda will be hosting a special night time photography and enthusiasts event. Running from 3:00pm until 10:00pm, the event will feature a number of Museum trams (including several not run in traffic often) will be used making a few photo stops along the running line to make the most of the late afternoon sun and the City lights that shine through the night sky. As well as the trams, a number of vintage props will be used to create scenes to be photographed throughout the event. The cost of the ticket not only includes the tram rides but also dinner and workshop tours. These are only part of the action packed program!

This is an exclusive event with only limited places so bookings are essential. We look forward to seeing you there!

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  Halo Chief Train Controller

Price seems a bit much for a BBQ dinner?
  Guard Class 2 Chief Commissioner

Location: Elizabeth,South Australia
Price seems a bit much for a BBQ dinner?
Halo

So don't go then.

I recently attended the Pichi Richi Railfan Weekend, which was quite a reasonable cost, but I found it extremely well organised and very good value for money.
As at least one of the organisers from that event is also involved in the organising of this event, I would suggest that people who attend this would be very happy with the "Bang for buck" that they should receive.
  409 Minister for Railways

First of all, I can confirm that not one but two of the organisers behind the Pichi Richi Railfan weekend are contributing to the planning of this event (they just happen to be AETM members as well) and this will a similar spectacle.

I am involved in the coordination of the rolling stock for the night and trust me, this event will feature an intensive running plan (both for the passengers as well as for the shunting before, during and after the event). Three trams not often run during the event are also being made ready to see service on the night so there is plenty of preparation behind the scenes on that front alone. Without giving too much away, the regular H car (360) will not be the only one running with another two being made ready.

A lot of planning on the photographic locations and props used to build the scenes has also been carried out. I can't really give too much away but the trams are only part of it and some scenes can only be captured at St Kilda. All will be revealed on the night.
  409 Minister for Railways

And as for food, there will be more then just the BBQ and it will be something unique.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Price seems a bit much for a BBQ dinner?
Halo

Typical Adelaide tightarse Razz
  Top Cat Assistant Commissioner

Location: Under Hilton Bridge
....the double decker routemaster is back from London.....Very Happy
  409 Minister for Railways

Registration forms for this event are now available at the Museum website (http://www.trammuseumadelaide.com.au) to download. You can pay for this event either through cheque or by credit card. Forms can also be returned to the Museum either via email at aetmsaoffice@gmail.com or by post the PO Box number at the top of the form.

This is the direct link to download the form:
http://www.trammuseumadelaide.com.au/images/10%20Trams%20de%20Nuit%20-%20Registration%20and%20Payment%20Form.pdf
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
....the double decker routemaster is back from London.....Very Happy
Top Cat

Very funny - took a while for the penny to drop.
  touring Junior Train Controller

Location: Adelaide
I frequently write articles promoting things to do in Adelaide, and am occasionally asked by SA Tourism and similar organisations to write about their events. The poster for this event caught my eye as I know several night time photographers, and I shared it with them.

I felt that the poster falls rather short of selling the event well. I have little doubt that it "could" be great fun and very successful, but I think that the organisers should consider re-drafting it to better explain what participants will get. THAT is how the event will be sold - I should NOT need to rely on an organiser to say "trust me, it will be a good night", because I should be sold by the poster information.

A couple of examples:
1. Dot points 3 and 4 seem to be pretty much saying the same thing
2. What will be special for photographers about the museum and workshop tours?
3. Will the BBQ dinner be a couple of snags in bread? Or will it be (eg) a gourmet slow cooked BBQ dinner using only local ingredients? Will there be a vego option? Make it sound really appetising, because food sells events as much as anything else.

I wish you all the best for the event, and hope you take my criticism in the spirit its intended.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
I frequently write articles promoting things to do in Adelaide, and am occasionally asked by SA Tourism and similar organisations to write about their events. The poster for this event caught my eye as I know several night time photographers, and I shared it with them.

I felt that the poster falls rather short of selling the event well. I have little doubt that it "could" be great fun and very successful, but I think that the organisers should consider re-drafting it to better explain what participants will get. THAT is how the event will be sold - I should NOT need to rely on an organiser to say "trust me, it will be a good night", because I should be sold by the poster information.

A couple of examples:
1. Dot points 3 and 4 seem to be pretty much saying the same thing
2. What will be special for photographers about the museum and workshop tours?
3. Will the BBQ dinner be a couple of snags in bread? Or will it be (eg) a gourmet slow cooked BBQ dinner using only local ingredients? Will there be a vego option? Make it sound really appetising, because food sells events as much as anything else.

I wish you all the best for the event, and hope you take my criticism in the spirit its intended.
touring

And wouldn't it have been better to have sent that to the original poster as a PM?
  touring Junior Train Controller

Location: Adelaide
No.
The same advice applies to all events run by rail enthusiasts, and I hope that other people will consider it too.
  ziggy Locomotive Driver

Location: Prospect
Come on fella’s.
These guys are young and innovative and just trying to inject some new enthusiasticinterest in the Museum.  They will makemistakes but will learn.  Don’t knocktheir effort. Touring has some good points and offers constructive criticism. Go to the event, offersupport, offer to help, otherwise the museum will die. Hats off to them.
  ziggy Locomotive Driver

Location: Prospect
ps I think there is something wrong with the reply box on Railpage.  I did not concatenate all those words!
  409 Minister for Railways

Just a little teaser of what is planned for the upcoming 'Trams de Nuit' event. I can confirm that the restaurant tram, H 378 'Grand Lady' will be making an appearance and running. An extra surprise with this tram is also planned but to find out what it is, you will have to come and see.


Bookings for this event are still open and you download the registration form from the Museum website at http://www.trammuseumadelaide.com.au


For those who are wanting to book as a group, any group with 5 or more people will receive a 10% discount.



  Halo Chief Train Controller

Some people need to pull their heads in. Not EVERYONE lives on the same income. I (and many others) am on a very limited income. As there is no consession rates for this event, both myself and my best mate are forced to miss out on something we'd love to be a part of.

To have some $@% £,/# uneducated sap say your a tightarse is seriously offensive.
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

Unless they have a special Government subsidy for the purpose of supporting concession holders organisations, including those  "not for profit", have to make money on the events they run.  Why should they lower their income? The $60.00 charge seems reasonable with or without the meal.

I am sick of persons coming to the ticket window at SASMEE wanting a Seniors' or other concession on a $5.00 entry ticket. Many of the people providing their amusement are older than they are.
  kipioneer Chief Commissioner

Location: Aberfoyle Park
This event is a fundraiser for the AETM and it is asking for our support and, in return,  providing a meal and entertainment.   For what it is the cost is not unreasonable.

To complain about the cost of the event is to miss that point.

If anyone feels the cost is too much and they wish to support the museum then they are free to donate any smaller amount they can afford.   Indeed they could go out there one Sunday and enjoy not only the museum exhibits, but also as many tram rides as they can fit in for a very reasonable cost.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

If anyone feels the cost is too much and they wish to support the museum then they are free to donate any smaller amount they can afford.
"kipioneer"
Very true.

The tramway runs alongside plenty of public property so any photographer could go there to get external shots and make a donation of whatever they feel is appropriate, same way it is possible to photograph The Overland without buying a ticket entitling you to be bossed around by a GSR stormtruppenfrau.

If they want internal shots or a whole bunch of the trams lined up together at the museum, they can pay the premium and get the bonus snag in bread.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Some people need to pull their heads in. Not EVERYONE lives on the same income. I (and many others) am on a very limited income. As there is no consession rates for this event, both myself and my best mate are forced to miss out on something we'd love to be a part of.

To have some $@% £,/# uneducated sap say your a tightarse is seriously offensive.
Halo

"Offensive" - you got off lightly sunbeam.

You made a smartase remark about it being an expensive BBQ (or words to that effect), thereby demeaning the hard work and efforts of the young volunteers putting their time into organising the event. Then you get all precious when you get caught out.

For the record I won't be a going either, because it's also out of my budget range. However, I think its sensibly priced for what is on offer and what is trying to be achieved.

My mate Vladmir Ilyich would also like to have gone, but recognises that the socialist utopia we strive for is still a long way off.
  409 Minister for Railways



Only TWO WEEKS TO GO until our inaugural and exciting "Trams de Nuit" Photography and Enthusiasts Night at the Tramway Museum, on Saturday 20th September 2014!

We have now sold two thirds of our available places on the night, particularly with a recent group booking from a local camera club. Get in quick and book your tickets before they sell out, particularly as it looks like there may with an upcoming 'surge' in bookings this week!

Remember, a 10% discount per person applies to group bookings of five people or more, whether you're from a Camera Club, another kindred railway organisation, or just a group of mates wanting a unique photography experience, this is the event, and this is the night!

Get your booking form from the museum's website here.
See you there!
http://www.trammuseumadelaide.com.au/10_tram%20de%20nuit.html


To keep up to date with current Museum happenings, you can also 'Like' the Tramway Museum, St Kilda's Facebook page at:
http://www.facebook.com/trammuseumstkilda
  Scooter_Guy Chief Train Controller

Location: Adelaide, SA. Suburb: Redwood Park
Not long to go now!
And I'll only get off the tram when it has come to a complete stop!Wink
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
For what is being provided I reckon $60 per person is really good bang for your buck. Go out somewhere to a restaurant or something and see how cheap their tucker is without the trams and other stuff thrown in and tell us all how dear this event is. It is the first of this type of event and most probably a few mistakes will be made, but it is called learning and on the next one it will be that much better because the organisers have learnt what will work and what will not. Good luck to them I say and as it is a fund raiser for the Tram Museum it is a worthy cause as well. Dont gripe about it, go to it!

Take any event you start off with something and slowly and progressively get it better and bigger or something! If you start out big the only way is to get smaller!
  poxbox3030 Train Controller

Location: Tom Price
Just wondering how the evening went and if anyone will be posting photos of the event?

I would have loved to come over for it but couldn't get to Adelaide.
  409 Minister for Railways

Plenty of photographs from this event have been submitted to the Tramway Museum - St Kilda's Facebook page here:
https://www.facebook.com/trammuseumstkilda

For an event organised by five Museum members all under the age of 30 (but with plenty of assistance both behind the scenes and on the trams), it was a bold undertaking but it is safe to say that last weekend's 'Trams de Nuit' event was a successful operation with plenty to keep our paying guests entertained and catered for. A total of 48 people came out for the event which had been marketed for not only rail and tramway enthusiasts but also amateur and professional photographers. The Museum particularly thanks the 12 members of the Edwardstown Photography Club who attended last Saturday as well one of our guests who came all the way from Perth for 'Trams de Nuit'. As well as the trams themselves, a total of 8 classic cars were in attendance to further build the photographic scenes and we sincerely thank the car owners who provided their vehicles for this event.

The weather last Saturday couldn't have been better as things last Saturday kicked off around 10:30am when the shunting of the trams started. Over the previous few weeks, a number of trams had been repositioned within the sheds to make this part of the operation as smooth as possible so by 1:30pm, all 8 trams for the event were in the yard ready to go. As well as members of the regular running fleet, 3 trams only used on special occasions were prepared and made ready, namely being trams 1, 362 and 378. Both 1 and 378 were last run in 2012 for the COTMA Conference that year but 362 made its' first public appearance since 2004 for this event. Trams 1, 118, 192, 264, 360, 362, 378 and 1013 were all ready and waiting for the public opening at 3pm. Prior to opening, 1013 was used on two service trips to ensure everything was ready on the line. The first run was to drop off a couple of large signs marking out the photographic area on the side of the lake at St Kilda while another trip was run around 2:30 to brief the crews attending on the set up for the night.

As well as the Museum grounds, a temporary terminus in the St Kilda town ship had been set up at Shell Street to allow for photographs of the trams and classic cars in a 'suburban' environment. In the weeks leading up to the event, all of the residents in Shell Street had been notified of what our plans were and embraced our activities with open arms. Once again, the Museum thanks everyone for your assistance. As well as the aforementioned lake side photo stop, the Samphire Road dirt road crossing was also used on one run to make the most of the spectacular sunsets that St Kilda can provide.

Anyway, back to the running of the event. The tram crews and classic car owners arrived at the Museum from 2pm to be formally briefed on the running of the event with everyone issued with a detailed running plan for the whole event. The staff requirements just to run the trams was far in excess of our ordinary operations with a total of four Motorman, two Conductors and one Dispatcher being required. The difference in numbers between Motorman and Conductors was to allow for enough crews to be at the Museum to do the shunts that would be necessary throughout the event. As well as the tram crews, we also had three volunteers assisting with the catering and a further volunteer running the shop.

At 3pm, we were ready and people started to come in. 45 minutes had been allowed for the 'Trams de Nuit' attendees to come in and also to brief everyone on not only routine house keeping but also about the event itself. A welcome bag full of goodies was issued out to everyone as they came through the doors.

At 3:45pm, the first trams were ready to run. A pair of H cars were run in the form of Tuscan and Cream H 360 and Silver and Red 362. Because Museum power supply cannot cope with the current draw of two H cars powering together coupled, it was decided to run the two trams in convoy thereby spreading the power load to an acceptable level. At the designated photostop, 360 was closely parked behind 362 so the impression of coupled set running could at least be given in the photographs. Some of you may be asking about mixed livery coupled sets of H cars and yes, it did happen during the 1950s and then in the 1970s when the fleet was being repainted to Silver and Red and then back to Tuscan and Cream. After the lake side photo stop, both trams proceeded to Shell Street where the waiting classic cars were which made for some classic tramway street scenes. When it was time to depart, everyone was loaded on to 360 for the trip back to the Museum. The reason for this was that 362 was going to be shunted to the side out of the main yard until it was next required in the program.

On arrival back at the Museum, 360 took its' place in a pre arranged line up of Adelaide trams showing the development of Adelaide trams between 1909 and 1929. From left to right, trams 1, 118, 192, 264 and 360 set the scene and a fine scene it was too. One added touch was the setting of the destination rolls on each tram for a particular Adelaide destination with the trams 'going' to Kensington, Henley Beach, St Peters, Cheltenham and Glenelg.

The next run was timed to coincide with the setting sun at St Kilda and for this, Melbourne W7 class tram 1013 and Adelaide A type 1 were selected. Both trams departed in convoy down the line stopping at the lake side photo stop, Shell Street terminus with the cars and also at Samphire Road crossing, both with and without classic cars. At Samphire Road, the group was once again consolidated on to tram 1013 for the trip to the Museum with number 1 running empty to the Museum and run in to the sheds to be stabled.

On arrival at the Museum on 1013, the passengers disembarked for dinner which had been set up in the yard. This was a BBQ but with a number of salad options and additional catering for passengers with specific dietary requirements. Dessert was also being prepared and was being loaded on to the restaurant tram. A 'fire pot' was also lit up for additional warmth and light. As dinner was being wrapped up, a workshops tour was run for those interested in seeing the behind the scenes workings of the Museum.

After the workshops tour, the restaurant tram was in position and made ready for the first of two scheduled 'dessert tram' workings although as you will see, plans had to be altered. Anyway, 378 led F1 type tram 264 down the line to the designated photo stop with a selection of cup cakes, lamingtons and chocolate dipped fruit were served on board. Around 10 minutes was allocated for photos at the photo stop with both trams in position before 378 departed solo for Shell Street. The reasoning behind this was to allow for time exposure photos of 264 by the lake. 378 arrived at the Shell Street terminus. Once again, a selection of cars were in attendance.

When working with heritage equipment, things can happen. After turning the tram around for the return trip, it was found that it would not depart for the return trip to the Museum. Some friendly banter with the car owners was had in the mean time and while their' offers for a tow were talked over, eventually 264 was coupled up to 378 for the tow back. To carry the passengers who were on 378, 362 was driven down as well creating a few unseen spectacles for everyone in the street. Not only three trams all parked on the side of the road but also the sight of one tram being towed by the other. 362 then departed with all the passengers while 264 towed 378 back to the Museum, both trams only carrying Museum staff. This was seen as an event in itself providing some unique photographs, not only at Shell Street but also at the Museum where the works tram (W2 354) was driven in to the yard as part of a shunt to accept the coupled set of 264 and 378. This created even more photographic opportunities for the photographers and everyone had an enjoyable time.

Once 378 had been delivered back, Trams de Nuit continued with the silver H car 362 making the final run for the night down the line. By this time, it was pitch black but the silver paintwork really stood out in the night light. The City lights reflecting over the water in the lake just added to the scenes captured. 362 arrived back at the Museum at 10pm with everyone in a jovial mood. Soon after, the final trams had been stabled in the sheds and Trams de Nuit concluded.

It was a great night had by everyone with many happy faces throughout the day and night. As I said earlier, it was a bold program but a very successful one.

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