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  kingfisher Chief Train Controller

As clearly stated on the order form (as with all their previous forms offering fully paid discount) the $220 price is valid "for orders placed prior to model delivery".

Tony
brissim

And not to forget that the Auscision price always includes free postage.

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  Erail Locomotive Fireman

hey guys, can I ask some stupid questions
1) what is a scrubber unit?
2) what did the stealth 48 look like, Was it the same as 81 and 86class
  kingfisher Chief Train Controller

hey guys, can I ask some stupid questions
1) what is a scrubber unit?
2) what did the stealth 48 look like, Was it the same as 81 and 86class
Erail

A google search 'photos of 48 class with scrubber unit' will bring up photos of at least two different types of scrubber units which are fitted to the exhaust.
  oscar2 Locomotive Fireman

Scrubber units were long horizontal boxes attached to some 48s' exhaust to filter/clean exhausts so they could run through city tunnels, I believe.  Just trying to remember what was said in an AMRM article reviewing the Bergs 48 kit with option of said scrubber unit.  No idea about stealth livery.

I was wondering if someone knows what a Mk5 refers to, thinking there was only 4. It can't be the drop nose PLs, because there's Indian red ones listed. I dunno, I'm confused.

I'm stoked the Auscision 48 will be a reality.
  ARodH Chief Train Controller

Location: East Oakleigh, Vic
I think I only want two. The bicentennial and ???, probably a reverse. Wouldn't mind if they did released a HO 44cl, I'll be quite happy to get one in candy. It'd give me more incentive to Kadee coupler, the P/L candy FS carriage set I've picked up.
  meh Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
The stealth livery has me intrigued; a Google search found nothing on it.

$220 for these is exceptional, and glad to see them covering the eras in one production run. I do hope though that more units are included in Freightcorp colours.
  wat700 Junior Train Controller

Location: Richmond, NSW
Great news. Just need the 830 Class order list to be put up so I can pre order them!
Cheers,
  Roachie Chief Commissioner

Location: Kadina SA (formerly NSW)
BANG!!! That's the sound of another $1,100- being shot off from my account to Mr Auscision's account!!!

I'm still getting 6 of the TOR 48s as well, so I'll be interested to see how the 2 models compare to each other....(in due course)...

Roachie
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
The stealth livery has me intrigued; a Google search found nothing on it.
meh

Hence the term 'stealth'. Wink
  a6et Minister for Railways

What was the stealth scheme applied to IIRC 422, 81cl?  Think it was one of the early blue colours that was tested.

The scrubber units were fitted for the puropose of working in tunnels for extended periods of times, including the City underground as well other areas that had passenger trains, but primarilly for the health of the enginement working on them in the confined spaces with limited ventilation. The scrubbers were supposed to remove the health damage of the exhaust fumes, which were not particularly pleasant.  Being the driver who got caught in Ardglen tunnel on the 45cl Bank Engines for more than 1/2 an hour when a wheat train broke, I was quite sick for some hours afterwards, reason why respirators were reintroduced on that working.

As for the so called mk types for the 48cl.  There were only 4 mark types one only has to look up any NSWGR publication or working books regarding them rather than some myth that has developed from the modelling community.  Its the same with the 44cl, only two mark types 1 & 2, the last 20 odd of the Mk 2 only had the old mesh grille behind, #1 end side windows with metal plates as it saved the NSWGR $20.00 in the extra cost for the mesh, which was for aesthetic design according to AE Goodwins.

The 48cl Mk myth comes from the factor of the first 45 being ordered initially in one batch, then 2 extensions of the contract was given to Goodwins.  From those 45, the next 3 orders were seperate contracts of 40 each, & there were differences in electricals, brake gear & type, Traction motors, Horse power along with other variations in the contracts.
  Shazam75 Chief Commissioner

Location: Brisbane
Sold out already! Both SSR-101 & 102 have now sold out.
No further pre-orders can be accepted.
  M636C Minister for Railways

What was the stealth scheme applied to IIRC 422, 81cl? Think it was one of the early blue colours that was tested.

The 48cl Mk myth comes from the factor of the first 45 being ordered initially in one batch, then 2 extensions of the contract was given to Goodwins. From those 45, the next 3 orders were seperate contracts of 40 each, & there were differences in electricals, brake gear & type, Traction motors, Horse power along with other variations in the contracts.
a6et


The "Stealth" name was given to the first dark blue livery, that was applied to two 81 class and two 86 class. This scheme matched the livery of SRA owned containers and these units were used in publicity for the container service.

The colours were the standard dark blue with a yellow band around the lower body (with white edging) and a dark roof colour, dark grey on the 81 class and stone colour on the 86 class. The stone colour was supposed to hide the brown marks from the pantograph and contact wire.

The dark grey was similar to that of contemporary "stealth" aircraft like the USAF B-2 bomber (and it was claimed made the locomotives harder to see in the distance until the yellow became visible). Ony these four units had the "Stealth" scheme.

One complication was that the second batch of forty 48 class swapped their AEI 253 traction motors for the GE761 motors on forty of the first batch of 44 class. this was because the 44 class were limited to 65 mph with that combination of motor and gear ratio, and were required to do 70 mph to keep time. Around 11 of the 44 class were fitted with larger GE731 motors and these were supposed to be kept available for the Southern Aurora until enough of the others got the AEI 253 motors and the problem went away.
  FirstStopCentral Chief Train Controller

The "Stealth" name was given to the first dark blue livery, that was applied to two 81 class and two 86 class. This scheme matched the livery of SRA owned containers and these units were used in publicity for the container service.

The colours were the standard dark blue with a yellow band around the lower body (with white edging) and a dark roof colour, dark grey on the 81 class and stone colour on the 86 class. The stone colour was supposed to hide the brown marks from the pantograph and contact wire.

The dark grey was similar to that of contemporary "stealth" aircraft like the USAF B-2 bomber (and it was claimed made the locomotives harder to see in the distance until the yellow became visible). Ony these four units had the "Stealth" scheme.

One complication was that the second batch of forty 48 class swapped their AEI 253 traction motors for the GE761 motors on forty of the first batch of 44 class. this was because the 44 class were limited to 65 mph with that combination of motor and gear ratio, and were required to do 70 mph to keep time. Around 11 of the 44 class were fitted with larger GE731 motors and these were supposed to be kept available for the Southern Aurora until enough of the others got the AEI 253 motors and the problem went away.
M636C


So the question remains, what was 'stealth' about 4855?

Paul
  a6et Minister for Railways

So the question remains, what was 'stealth' about 4855?

Paul
FirstStopCentral

Maybe just for marketing.
  645edude Train Controller

Location: In my own little 1/87 world
Hi All
Didn't 4855 have large numbers on the front of the loco in the Freightcorp scheme?
Maybe that means stealth for the Auscision folk.
Mathew Hughes
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.

4855, may or may not be the livery in question.
  5711 Assistant Commissioner


4855, may or may not be the livery in question.
Poath Junction

Now what are you hinting at?
  GT46C-ACe Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
That might be the Stealth livery on the 48s?....
  2LaGrange Train Controller

That might be the Stealth livery on the 48s?....
GT46C-ACe

Yep that would be it,when 4855 was first painted in Blue/Yellow livery it had large numbers on ends and sides with no FreightRail or FreightCorp logos below cab windows,so I guess that is why they call it stealth as in no logos.4855 later in life had the FreightCorp logos added below cab windows.
  M636C Minister for Railways

While not claiming to know why Auscision used the name "Stealth" for 4855, the large numbers on the end at a higher than normal location on 4855 does resemble the end and side numbers on the four "stealth" locomotives after they were patch repainted into the standard dark blue Freight Rail/Freight Corp scheme. This was because the numbers were located above a yellow stripe that was later removed. The two 81s at least were later fully repainted with standard numbers, but I'm not sure about the two 86s.

So 4855 could be said to resemble the "modified Stealth" scheme.

At least one Freight Rail 48 was painted with a white frame edge with a thin yellow stripe separating it from the blue, rather than the standard yellow frame with white separating stripe. I think this was a mistake and it might have been changed to standard fairly quickly.

M636C
  M636C Minister for Railways

On the subject of the Stealth livery, the prototype photos and model photos of the 86 class on the Auscision website appear to show grey rather than the stone colour that the actual 86 class carried. The 86 definitely didn't have a grey roof but a distinct brown-grey which is generally called "stone".

I think the photo on the Auscision website has been scanned and the colour has been adjusted incorrectly to render the stone as grey - it does look a little too blue overall.

Of course I have my own photos of both the 81 class and the 86 class when they were new (these were published in AMRM around 1990/91 and I think the colours showed up correctly as different).

So if the Stealth 86 class model does indeed have a grey roof as it appears on the website, this is incorrect.

I know it is a bit late to point this out now, but this is the first time I've looked at the 86 class page with that scheme in mind.

M636C
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
I wonder if Auscision will make the model of MRL locos?
bagus70

I'd pleaded the case for MRL's a few months ago but things didn't sound promising. One can only hope they are done, along with the FIE class that have just emerged from the UGL paintshop in pretty red/blue/white livery.

edit: pic of FIE at https://flic.kr/p/pgsLJ4
  bagus70 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Wanting to revisit Australia again.
Is it true that Auscision delayed the release of C44ACi model because of the release of MRL and FIE locos?
  FirstStopCentral Chief Train Controller

Mention in the October 2014 AMRM that Auscision will have samples of an unannounced loco on display...

So what's it going to be?

My money is on the NSWGR 421 Class.

They obviously had the 43 very much underway when they posed the question earlier in the year "Which one do you want". So it's only logical that the tooling for the 421 was underway also.

Would still love to see someone tackle the NSWGR 41 Class (two liveries and three or so body styles) and / or the X200 Shunter (two body styles and too many liveries to count at this time of night...)

Or... maybe it's going to be a NSWGR 40 Class?

Paul
  Shazam75 Chief Commissioner

Location: Brisbane
XPT Strobe lights are a feature on every model.


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