SWRL Construction Progress

 
  viaprojects Train Controller


In around 3 weeks the line goes 'live', which about signals the end of construction.
normw


missed the mark - it was on the news they have finished construction. just no date for services to start.

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  normw Junior Train Controller

missed the mark - it was on the news they have finished construction. just no date for services to start.
viaprojects

The project has been going upwards of 4 years, so to miss the end of it by a few weeks isn't too bad. Smile My concept was the end of the project would be the point at which Sydney Trains could actually run an electric train the length of the line, and at present the 1500v OHW likely is not (yet) switched on and the junction signals at Glenfield, while tested, have not yet been enabled to allow the Train Control System to route trains to the line. So for the moment the line is still in the hands of the contractors. As a point of interest, any idea what day or news you saw this reported on?

Next weekend is the second-last working weekend for the project (that I know of). The 44CO going was listed in weekly notices but there has been no mention of the demise of 40CO and 42CO. These crossovers are relatively new and may not need all the drainage work that 44CO did. There are usually specific track circuits related to crossovers that indicate when they are clear of trains, so I think next weeks work could relate to removing them and or replacing insulated track circuits with tuned frequency types. There are also old signal bases to be removed on both 'Dn' and 'Up' near Macquarie Fields, as well as footings for mast stays. 40CO, 42CO and the remains of Pt41 probably won't fully go until the October shutdown. Most (if not all) of these still use timber sleepers.

Staff training services are expected to begin as early as Oct 7 (see recent posts in this forum).
  jcouch Assistant Commissioner

Location: Asleep on a commuter train
Things are looking to be perfectly on time for an opening just a month or two before the next state election. In the words of Gomer Pyle - Surprise, surprise, surprise....  Smile

When they started the work, it looked like they were developing into an area where the major safety issue would be dodging errant bovines rather than spray paint wielding vermin. Took a drive along Camden Valley way last weekend and they're almost in the middle of prime realestate territory. Where the hell did all these houses come from in such a short time?!  Pity. I used to really enjoy the feeling of driving down an old country lane along that road, but progress has caught up - except with the dead that we get to pass by on the way there....
  normw Junior Train Controller

Things are looking to be perfectly on time for an opening just a month or two before the next state election. In the words of Gomer Pyle - Surprise, surprise, surprise.... Smile

When they started the work, it looked like they were developing into an area where the major safety issue would be dodging errant bovines rather than spray paint wielding vermin. Took a drive along Camden Valley way last weekend and they're almost in the middle of prime realestate territory. Where the hell did all these houses come from in such a short time?! Pity. I used to really enjoy the feeling of driving down an old country lane along that road, but progress has caught up - except with the dead that we get to pass by on the way there....
jcouch

Time 'progresses' AFAICT as it neither stands still or goes backwards; wether what peoples do is 'progress' remains questionable. CVW is being slowly made into a 6 lane road, and the number of new housing estates grows rapidly along it the closer you get to Narellan, and trains are not even close to these yet. By the time they are, houses will be popping up like mushrooms on the southern and western sides of Camden. David Suzuki correctly termed 'the human plague', and the growth in suburbs just to the south of Campbelltown can be described in terms reminiscent of an algae bloom. And 'progress' does affect the deceased, with grave recycling, vertical installs and more rural areas given over to cemeteries as inner ones are closed due to over-crowding....and this ongoing process has no foreseeable end in sight, to use a construction term, no 'sunset clause'.

But, no denying it, the SWRL has been a major constuction success for all those involved and Glenfield (station) has grown enormously since its 'College' days.
  GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways

Location: In a FAM sleeper

But, no denying it, the SWRL has been a major constuction success for all those involved and Glenfield (station) has grown enormously since its 'College' days.
"normw"


When I first visited Glenfield it seemed like a two platform country station. Now look at it!
  normw Junior Train Controller

When I first visited Glenfield it seemed like a two platform country station. Now look at it!
GeoffreyHansen

Back before the coming of the East Hills junction that's all it was - even in the early 90's, and even a waiting shed on the platforms was something of a luxury.
  normw Junior Train Controller

As a point of interest, any idea what day or news you saw this reported on?
normw

Finally 'discovered' it.
http://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/media-releases/south-west-rail-link-construction-complete-services-start-early-2015

Four+ months for training sounds a little excessive and extending the East Hills services another 11 km would need a significant shuffle in train times. It is now known Glenfield signalling can support a Leppington shuttle, and as early patronage is apt to be low, I could make a case for early train services prior to the official openning in February/March to start building user numbers. These early services would only need to provide a connection with current services and (even then peak hours  only) would be enough to get the line working. Once CVW upgrading is advanced I suspect there will be a lot of spare parking spaces at Campbelltown and Leumeah.
  normw Junior Train Controller

A visit to the Cambridge Avenue road bridge north of Glenfield revealed more of the redundant EHUP track has been removed, and what MAY be a (temporary) storage space created for the trackwork scheduled for mid-October. Also noted all OHW masts on the EHDN are single-post masts from where the EHUP separates from the EHDN to the Cambridge Avenue road bridge - so the portal masts HAVE gone. Have a couple of photos of the area to add to my 'album' in the next day or so; will add a link here when ready.

And in case it comes up as a Trivial Pursuit question, the kiosk ('Quick Serve') opened on the Glenfield station concourse last Monday (Sept 15).

Edit: With some assistance have now added a couple of pix of the 'cleaned up' East Hills Down Main as it approaches the Cambridge Avenue road bridge. See the link below, then pages 2 and 3.

http://www.ufuf.de/dalbum/index.php?folder=/Glenfield%20Station/
  jcouch Assistant Commissioner

Location: Asleep on a commuter train
All that cleanup has happened in the last couple of days. Was going to mention it myself, but work etc means you got to it before me Smile  They have done quite the cleanup job there - all the old ballast has been spread out, leveled and rolled flat rather than scraped up into a heap for reuse later.  Sleepers are stacked just under the down side of the northern flyover neatly for reuse.
  466nick Beginner

Apologies if this has already been discussed, but does anyone know or want to guess how the SWRL will affect the timetable? I find the airport/campbelltown timetable to be very confusing, there does not seem to be any pattern to it.
  normw Junior Train Controller

Apologies if this has already been discussed, but does anyone know or want to guess how the SWRL will affect the timetable? I find the airport/campbelltown timetable to be very confusing, there does not seem to be any pattern to it.
466nick

There is a _possibility_ it may get easier when the Leppington line opens. Trains coming from the city via East Hiills and Airport lines are expected IIRC to go to Leppington to turn around, while trains from the Granville, Schofields and Cumberland services will (as needed) go to Campbelltown/Macarthur. Hence all the above services will intersect at Glenfield, and you change trains there if required. Train 'patterns' vary greatly between peak and off-peak times, as well as from other factors such as train availability, train crewing, etc. There will be new timetables out (I believe) well before new services begin or current services are changed. Check the 'Railpage' forums for any related to timetables or timetabling.
  Aurora8 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney
That would be a bit surprising if that was the case. With the work they did with last October's timetable, you'd think they'd maintain the simplicity and just extend the Glenfield terminators (City via Granville) trains to Leppington. Of course, not all City via Granville services start at Glenfield (depends on day and the time of day) but they could perhaps just continue as timetabled. We'll see when the updated timetable is released.
  Groover Train Controller

Location: A long way from home
There is a _possibility_ it may get easier when the Leppington line opens. Trains coming from the city via East Hiills and Airport lines are expected IIRC to go to Leppington to turn around, while trains from the Granville, Schofields and Cumberland services will (as needed) go to Campbelltown/Macarthur. Hence all the above services will intersect at Glenfield, and you change trains there if required. Train 'patterns' vary greatly between peak and off-peak times, as well as from other factors such as train availability, train crewing, etc. There will be new timetables out (I believe) well before new services begin or current services are changed. Check the 'Railpage' forums for any related to timetables or timetabling.
normw

I would be very surprised if that was the case.  City to Mac Fields and beyond patrons are serviced via the East Hills lines, so to dump them all out at Glenfield and wait for a train coming from Granville would not go down well.  I don't notice a lot of people going to Campbelltown catching via Granville trains at Wynyard (coz the trains are lightly loaded from Liverpool).  In the peak hours you can still be standing until Ingleburn and from Ingleburn, so to prioritize the East Hills services for a couple of new estates out around Leppington would seem a little silly, don't you think?
  normw Junior Train Controller

I don't work for Sydney Trains, only quoting from what I've read elsewhere. For MY view the simplest timetable would be a 3 station shuttle from Glenfield to Leppington, timed to connect with existing services. However, there is no chance my preference will be an input to the timetabling process. People with more credentials will do that, and the only reliable rumour will be to get the new timetables when they're finally made available next year (and grumble to your local M.P. if you don't like them).
  normw Junior Train Controller

A visit to Glenfield today (20th) found the 'old' EHUp has been shortened even further since last Thursday, with rails and sleepers now removed all the way back to the old '41' points, for now leaving the ballast in place. Noted a number of crews working on rail welding in various places and a track-mounted jack-hammer demolishing disused concrete bases. I left just after 11am.

Edit: Monday 22nd and a legitimate trip through Glenfield this morning revealed all the ballast of the 'old' EHUp has now been removed up to '41' points and the area up to the points flattened and smoothed over. Since all the track from north of 40B to south of 42A will likely be replaced in one piece, this now 'cleaned up' area will certainly facilitate that activity. Also noted the old signal bases back towards Macquarie Fields were still in place.
  grog Train Controller

I very much doubt that the existing timetable wasn't written with the SWRL services just ready to slot in pretty easily.

Expect to see South line terminators/starters (4tph in peak) extended to Leppington, and my money would be on the 2 East Hills starting services in the morning people actually being an indicator of the pattern that will be in place for the Airport line trains (4tph if you extrapolate those 2 services out to the entire peak) which would see the Macarthur to City via Airport trains - 4tph - pushed back by 5 minutes out of Macarthur, arriving in the city 3 minutes after currently scheduled, 3 minutes after the new SWRL services.

Put more simply, take the current 30 minutes block 7:15 - 7:45 ex Campbelltown, extend the East Hill starters to begin at Leppington and you have your timetable.

It also lines up nicely for the South line trains connecting to Airport line trains at Glenfield and vice versa.
  normw Junior Train Controller

On timetabling and destinations, perhaps some points of relevance.

Turnout speeds to/from Leppington into Glenfield are significantly greater for movements to/from the East Hills line, which kind of 'suggests' that is the primary route for Leppington services.

Most of the (few) major cities of the world that I know of, have lines that are 'point-to-point', typically (ala Metro Paris and London) radial from the CBD and where 'changing trains' is considered 'normal' activity. Given the head of Sydney Trains is also likely familiar with it Smile, 'changing trains' at Glenfield could also be a proposition in any new timetable.
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

On timetabling and destinations, perhaps some points of relevance.

Turnout speeds to/from Leppington into Glenfield are significantly greater for movements to/from the East Hills line, which kind of 'suggests' that is the primary route for Leppington services.

Most of the (few) major cities of the world that I know of, have lines that are 'point-to-point', typically (ala Metro Paris and London) radial from the CBD and where 'changing trains' is considered 'normal' activity. Given the head of Sydney Trains is also likely familiar with it Smile, 'changing trains' at Glenfield could also be a proposition in any new timetable.
normw

Do many customers from down that way actually use the train to access either the domestic or international terminals? Whenever I go down that way I am surprised at the number of cars parked in quite modest homes. And some are fairly expensive cars not old bangers. I would imagine such households would have no difficulty snagging in a family member to drive them out the airport for the occasional trip to Bali or Phuket.
  ivahri Train Controller

Oh yes... don't you know that "we" in the leafy South West must drive a fleet of Porsches and BMWs to keep up with the Joneses...

What a bazaar comment! I feel totally inadequate in my Macquarie Fields Hyundai...

I have traveled to the airport quite a number of times by train. In weekday peak times you would be insane to do it any other way. I can get a bus then train & be in the terminal in under an hour when that can be how long it takes in a taxi to get to King Georges Rd via the M5. Commuting by train every day I see passengers heading to the airport on every train.

On the other hand traveling on an (early) Sunday morning my taxi had me at the International terminal in 25 minutes... just depends on day and time.

Cheers


Richard
  jcouch Assistant Commissioner

Location: Asleep on a commuter train
Just don't try to get to the airport by road between 6 and 9am on a Saturday or Sunday morning. Gah, the M5 is a complete parking lot at that intersection Sad  Next time I go to pick up  the family, it will be by train!
  normw Junior Train Controller

FYI: G.T.I. and G.L.R.L. Construction Updates for the month of October (2014) are now available from the Gov't's Project Web site. Official handover of the project by the contractors to Sydney Trains is scheduled for October 31st. Any train running on the line before then (Oct/7?) would seem to be for the benefit/use of the contractors. The G.L.R.L. CU shows testing, commisioning and presentation work activities continuing to Oct 20, by which time the last of the redundant crossovers and track are scheduled to be removed at Glenfield.
  D4004 Junior Train Controller

Location: Sydney NSW
Here is a video of the new and complete Leppington Station.



http://youtu.be/zQWxUl3FwDc
  normw Junior Train Controller

Here is a video of the new and complete Leppington Station.



http://youtu.be/zQWxUl3FwDc
D4004

The Gov't Project web site has still photographs of Leppington station taken from the same location (Rickard Rd overbridge) during the later days of construction, and at that time the view was 'obstruction-free'. Thus I looked forward to the re-opening of Rickard Road in expectation of being able to take a few more recent photos. Alas, I was disappointed to find the 'throw barriers' (also known as 'anti-photography barriers') were already up, and photography from there impossible without a ladder! ;-( I commend the photographer's optimism in persisting. I suspect access to the station car parks and concourse will likely remain restricted to Sydney Trains staff until the official opening.
  EMD-ACe Station Master

Location: Australia
Glenfield via Granville services will continue to Leppington.
  bernerd Junior Train Controller

^ no, they will not.

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