Auscision Models Blog

 
  sydneyshortnorth Train Controller

Location: On the 1 in 40.
On another forum there’s been some entertaining chatter about Auscision’s shop opening, including comparisons with an Apple product launch implying large crowds and excited queues of the faithful gathering early on the magic day. What fun that would be!


However, assuming Auscision’s published photos of the shop aren’t another elaborate tease (hello Photoshop?), and without wanting to rain on anyone’s joyous parade, people should be aware that the location depicted is not a traditional retail shopfront on a typical public street. Check the view through the windows.


Anyone familiar with the commercial landscape of Seven Hills has probably identified the location already but others without the benefit of local knowledge should understand that it’s in an industrial neighbourhood remote from the town centre.


With regard to the shop’s ‘grand opening’ I wonder how Auscision’s neighbours would feel about large crowds gathering or queuing outside their premises or, heaven forbid, trying to camp out overnight à laApple Store to score a prime pozzy for when Auscision’s door opens. Possibly it might be tolerated as a brief ‘one-off’ event, so long as everyone parks their car elsewhere and no-one actually sets up camp the night before! But more likely though I’d guess the public opening date, the location and the shop’s ongoing trading times (limited hours?) will all be announced simultaneously and only at VERY short notice, if any at all, so as to minimise pressure on the premises, the shop staff and the neighbourhood.


On the subject of car parking we must take note of Auscision’s emphasis on public transport options for getting to the shop (train and bus via Parramatta) in its latest announcement which doesn’t mention car parking at all. This may be because parking spaces near the new shop are mostly allocated exclusively to other businesses: casual visitors will find it hard to get a space. And other local streets where parking is permitted fill up quickly too, on weekdays anyway.


By the way, no, I’m not going to disclose the shop’s address here, and I hope no-one else puts it out prematurely either. It’s Auscision’s right and privilege to do that when they’re good and ready to make their splash. But I thought it might be helpful to pass on some background in general terms to help people plan their strategies either for the grand opening or for visits soon afterwards.


Anyway, as I said in my previous post here, congratulations once again to the Auscision team on your hard work and achievements with the shop project and let’s all support the venture as best we can, each in our own way, wherever our layouts may be!

Steve





















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  FirstStopCentral Chief Train Controller

Auscision 830 Class order form and info is available on their Facebook page.

Not as much variety as I though they might have.



Paul
  2LaGrange Train Controller

Auscision 830 Class order form and info is available on their Facebook page.

Not as much variety as I though they might have.



Paul
FirstStopCentral

I guess the fact that everything they have produced in the past in SA outline such as ELs,ANs,ABFX,AHGX and AOOX have been slow sellers has not really encouraged them to do big runs.Plus they already have 36 different 48s to produce in their factory at the same time as the 830s so that's a lot locos to confuse the factory !

Lets hope all the people on here and FB complaining they had not put up order form for 830s put their money where their mouth is and support them and possibly to encourage them to consider doing a 600 class with their 45 class tooling in the future.
  SA_trains Deputy Commissioner

Location: ACT
AUSCISION! If you're reading this, then THANK YOU!

Great selection of one of the key SAR locos, the 830-class.

I was going to buy one, just to move things along, but I'm going to up that to three! including the very rare maroon and silver variant! Saves me having to re-paint an old Powerline one!

Looking forward to the delivery!
  5711 Assistant Commissioner

Great development....
...I wonder if the trend will continue and we will see the 600 class in the 45 release!
  2LaGrange Train Controller

Certainly is great to see Auscision doing the 830s however I do not see them doing the 600s with the current run of 45s that are due to arrive before the end of the year.

They would have announced their intention to do a 600 by now and would be taking pre orders to get an idea of production numbers to do.

Maybe in a future rerun of 45 class they will do 600s.

On the subject of the shop,Auscision are careful not to give an exact address until the actual opening date, however they have when I asked at a recent exhibition confirmed it is in an industrial estate and that the shop will initially only be opening on Saturdays so that they do not have the added cost of a full time employee to man shop.

They also stated that there is plenty of parking at the site and in the surrounding streets as most other business in the estate do not trade or use their premises on weekends.

So parking will not be an issue and it is within walking distance of train station and has a bus stop nearby.

Looking forward to shop opening whenever it happens as I am sure there will be bargains to have for those that can get there on opening day or via online shopping cart.
  5711 Assistant Commissioner

yes the shop is not far from me - I am concerned that I will be putting aside my Saturdays to spend and visit!!
  Roachie Chief Commissioner

Location: Kadina SA (formerly NSW)
Order Form for the 830 isn't up on their web site yet. I was going to print a copy from their Faecesbook page but when I right clicked on the mouse whilst hovering over the Order page, it provided me with an option of printing the surrounding guff as well, that didn't belong on the order page.

I'm sure that a computer-savvy person will laugh at this and say I'm a richard-cranium for not knowing how to sort this out..... I'm good at some things but computers ain't one of them!!! Wink

So, I'll just wait for the web site to be updated.

Roachie
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.

Too easy, just hover the mouse at the bottom of the image and use the option menu to download the form
  FirstStopCentral Chief Train Controller


Too easy, just hover the mouse at the bottom of the image and use the option menu to download the form
Poath Junction

Or 'Right-Click' and 'Save Image As..' like everything else on the web.

Paul
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.

NLDF artwork, source facebook.
  AdelaideHills Station Staff

Location: Southwestern Germany
Order Form for the 830 isn't up on their web site yet. I was going to print a copy from their Faecesbook page but when I right clicked on the mouse whilst hovering over the Order page, it provided me with an option of printing the surrounding guff as well, that didn't belong on the order page.

I'm sure that a computer-savvy person will laugh at this and say I'm a richard-cranium for not knowing how to sort this out..... I'm good at some things but computers ain't one of them!!! Wink

So, I'll just wait for the web site to be updated.

Roachie
Roachie

I'm not fully happy about the 830 class choice as both AN green locos are not among the most pictured ones. I found one photo of 842 in "South Australian Diesel Pictoral" on page 41 and one of the green 833 on page 74 in the same book and a second picture on page 38 in MotivePower issue 87 where the 830 class is described nicely (but less the GWA paint scheme).
The latter is mentioned to feature the double skin roof and air conditioning but I wonder if they will do another cab tooling. Before I'm ordering I would appreciate more details or better drawings or pictures on their website.
With their limited choice I need not think about getting an orange GWA version at least and can safe my money for other things.

I'm staying tuned ... Thomas
  brissim Chief Train Controller

.......................  Before I'm ordering I would appreciate more details or better drawings or pictures on their website.................. ... Thomas
AdelaideHills

I think its a measure of how Auscision have rushed their 48/830 project that the order forms have appeared first on Facebook, and now on their order page, before its even listed as a product (there has been a gap next to the 43 Class for some time) or has its own product page.

Tony
  K-Class Chief Train Controller

Location: Melbourne
As a modern image SA modeler I am very disappointed that they are not offering the 830 in GWA orange and black and also in AN green and yellow with GWA logos.

Looks like I will have to get a couple in AN and then repaint.  I am also contemplating on getting one and rebuilding the short end and cab to turn it into a DA/900 as there was always very little to no chance they would get done RTR.

Matt
  M636C Minister for Railways

As a modern image SA modeler I am very disappointed that they are not offering the 830 in GWA orange and black and also in AN green and yellow with GWA logos.

Looks like I will have to get a couple in AN and then repaint. I am also contemplating on getting one and rebuilding the short end and cab to turn it into a DA/900 as there was always very little to no chance they would get done RTR.

Matt
K-Class


No sign of a 2200 or DC yet either...

Why is 42220 from 1980 or 44207 from 1990 more important?

On Saturday I saw two 830s and 48s28 in Coote/Greentrains green, all in Goulburn (on two trains).

48s28 was on a ballast train with three other 48/830s, all of which had different cab side windows and different air conditioners. It won't be easy to do now, but why are three different manufacturers building models from the 1950s and early 1960s exclusively?

The best selling model ever was John Eassie's NR which was current at the time.

M636C
  CLF6 Station Master

As a modern image SA modeler I am very disappointed that they are not offering the 830 in GWA orange and black and also in AN green and yellow with GWA logos.
K-Class

As a guess, I would say tooling is the primary issue. The changes made since the original layout of these locos in more recent years, before and after re-branding into GWA include; dual marker lights, ditch lights, air conditioning units, full length handrails, dual skin cabin roof, antenna. There's probably more but they're the more obvious. They would have to make all these changes as fast applied parts to the existing tooling for the earlier models, which may not be simple at all (the markers and ditch lights would require internal electrical changes, for example). Remember – Auscision don't do 'near enough', and unless they could justify the cost in doing an accurate representation, they won't do it.
Another thing to consider is the fact that the GWA's 830s have spent a minimal, if at all, time on the standard gauge, and I doubt they would opt for the limited 12mm market, and even less the 18.3mm (or whatever).
Many of the changes are also unique to the GWA fleet and don't reflect the modern 830s/48s interstate, so in all a very limited scope.

Having said, I'm keen to order an 830 to strip and rebuild into a modern 844 Smile
  AdelaideHills Station Staff

Location: Southwestern Germany
As a guess, I would say tooling is the primary issue. The changes made since the original layout of these locos in more recent years, before and after re-branding into GWA include; dual marker lights, ditch lights, air conditioning units, full length handrails, dual skin cabin roof, antenna. There's probably more but they're the more obvious. They would have to make all these changes as fast applied parts to the existing tooling for the earlier models, which may not be simple at all (the markers and ditch lights would require internal electrical changes, for example). Remember – Auscision don't do 'near enough', and unless they could justify the cost in doing an accurate representation, they won't do it.
Another thing to consider is the fact that the GWA's 830s have spent a minimal, if at all, time on the standard gauge, and I doubt they would opt for the limited 12mm market, and even less the 18.3mm (or whatever).
Many of the changes are also unique to the GWA fleet and don't reflect the modern 830s/48s interstate, so in all a very limited scope.

Having said, I'm keen to order an 830 to strip and rebuild into a modern 844 Smile
CLF6

exactly - there are many modifications to do on more recent versions and they need additional sliders and inserts - and money as a matter of fact.
That's why I'm waiting on more details on their product page because if they really do 833 it must be done with AC unit and double roof wall - I don't expect them to do a compromise. Maybe they'll re-think and change the road number to a loco that does not feature this roof details.

Thomas
  wat700 Junior Train Controller

Location: Richmond, NSW
exactly - there are many modifications to do on more recent versions and they need additional sliders and inserts - and money as a matter of fact.
That's why I'm waiting on more details on their product page because if they really do 833 it must be done with AC unit and double roof wall - I don't expect them to do a compromise. Maybe they'll re-think and change the road number to a loco that does not feature this roof details.

Thomas
AdelaideHills


Ditto - keen to see if Auscision release 833 with the AC unit and double skin roof in AN colours as per the prototype. No doubt it would also appeal to those wishing to model the ATN Access grain trains - with some minor mods.
  M636C Minister for Railways

exactly - there are many modifications to do on more recent versions and they need additional sliders and inserts - and money as a matter of fact.
That's why I'm waiting on more details on their product page because if they really do 833 it must be done with AC unit and double roof wall - I don't expect them to do a compromise. Maybe they'll re-think and change the road number to a loco that does not feature this roof details.

Thomas
AdelaideHills


Indeed, many of the AN changes were made before or during the era of corporate green.

Will the bright green and silver air filters feature in place of the black oil bath filters? They certainly showed up on the prototype and would just be a paint variation.

I guess the question is "why have Auscision chosen to model exactly the same versions as Trainorama and Powerline".

M636C
  pjknife Assistant Commissioner

Location: Port Lincoln
AdelaideHills, here's another photo of 842 showing its current colours - maybe another variation for Auscision?  Just kidding Laughing . Don't worry, 842 didn't run like this - it was used as a painters' platform in the workshops at Port Lincoln after its withdrawal.



Cheers,
Peter
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
830 info added to blog, order forms now on the website.

Just added to Auscision facebook: "We will have production samples on display of a new unannounced NSW locomotive in HO Scale. Order forms will also be available at the show for this model."
  snerd Station Master

Location: BNE
Does anybody know if Auscision accept phone orders? I know they don't seem to do web orders, but posting an order in an stamped envelope like some sort of common beast is so last century.
  TheMeddlingMonk Deputy Commissioner

Location: The Time Vortex near Melbourne, Australia
Does anybody know if Auscision accept phone orders? I know they don't seem to do web orders, but posting an order in an stamped envelope like some sort of common beast is so last century.
snerd

You could always email them. I've placed orders this way.
  Roachie Chief Commissioner

Location: Kadina SA (formerly NSW)
Does anybody know if Auscision accept phone orders? I know they don't seem to do web orders, but posting an order in an stamped envelope like some sort of common beast is so last century.
snerd

What I do is

1...print the order form
2.....fill it in
3.....scan it
4.....email the completed order form to them.

Works every time.

Roachie
  Newcastle Express Chief Commissioner

First, something is annoying in the model railway threads.

Why is 42220 from 1980 or 44207 from 1990 more important?
M636C

Their is one reason why 42220 is important.

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