Xtrap with dual dome cameras on the front of the drivers dash

 
  another_nobody Beginner

Did I see right? This afternoon at Richmond station, I saw an XTrap heading either Lilydale or Belgrave way with what looked to be two dome cameras facing forwards between the window glass and the front of the driver control unit/dash area.

They looked like they were permanently fixed, however since I only saw a quick glance, I am not sure.

Are they cameras or something else, if cameras, what are they for?

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  Westernport Assistant Commissioner

Location: Not In Service
It's a dash-cam trial fitted to the leading motors of that six-car XTrapolis. The intermediate cabs do not have the cameras fitted, and the two three-car sets are not to be separated. Initially they were also fitted to a six-carriage Comeng set, and a 3VL but have since been removed.

Quite a few of Queensland Rail's suburban trains and the new A-City trains for Adelaide are all fitted with dash-cams.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Quite a few of Queensland Rail's suburban trains and the new A-City trains for Adelaide are all fitted with dash-cams.
"Westernport"
The 3000/3100 class DEMUs in Adelaide have also had retro-fitted forward-facing and side-mounted cameras (facing "backwards" near each cab) for quite a few years now. Some footage from both types was used in a recent safety campaign video:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuC5R9-g2Q4

If there are two forward-facing cameras on each end of the set in Melbourne, this may indicate the trial is part of a competitive tender process.
  stu1818 Junior Train Controller

Location: Longwarry, Victoria
It's a dash-cam trial fitted to the leading motors of that six-car XTrapolis. The intermediate cabs do not have the cameras fitted, and the two three-car sets are not to be separated. Initially they were also fitted to a six-carriage Comeng set, and a 3VL but have since been removed.

Westernport

The 3VL still has the camera fitted as i noticed this same thing on tuesday evening as #8421 came into Dandenong station and also wondered what it was
  KRviator Moderator

Location: Up the front
Good idea. A lot of new loco's are factory-fitted with forward facing CCTV too. It should really help with accident investigation.
  Madjikthise Deputy Commissioner

If there are two forward-facing cameras on each end of the set in Melbourne, this may indicate the trial is part of a competitive tender process.
justapassenger

There is one wide angle lens and one telephoto lens, both capture supposedly high-definition footage.
There may have been a tender process, a very quiet one, but the cameras currently fitted are part of a single system. Once the trial is complete they will be rolled out across all trains.
If it's anything like the radio system they should be installed in about 5 years, by which time the technology will be well out of date and obsolete so maintenance costs can be kept at a very nice premium for the installer.
  X'Trapolis-904M Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
If it's anything like the radio system they should be installed in about 5 years, by which time the technology will be well out of date and obsolete so maintenance costs can be kept at a very nice premium for the installer.
Madjikthise

BTW How's DTRS Going? not much traffic coming from metrol



--Driver Out---
--Metrol Out---
  Some rail man Junior Train Controller

Location: CIA Headquarters in Washington D.C
Don't the Waratah trains in Sydney have dashboard cameras? Or were they cut from the plan to "screw up the trains"?

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