Coalition matches Labor with $700m Mernda rail link pledge

 
  Bobman Locomotive Fireman

Come on guys.

Bracks promised a rail line to be built by 2003 to South Morang back in 1999. Nothing happened until 2009 when the election was imminent. Brumby said it wouldn't happen until "2021" at one point.

Bracks promised to build 4 tracks between Caulfield and Dandenong. Nothing happened.

ALP promised to grade-separate Murrumbeena and Clayton dating back many, many years. Nothing happened.

Liberals grade-separated 3 crossings in their first term and have a much better track record. Kennett rebuilt Upfield.

Liberals made City Loop a reality.

Do some research Smile

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  woodford Chief Commissioner

Cross-rail is an enormous project, just huge. One side of London to the other while connecting lots of existing lines and stations together - the fact that they've managed to pull it all together in such a short period of time is testimony to what can be done when governments decide that they actually want to get it done.


Not in our case, sadly...
don_dunstan

A thing to keep in mind when comparing Greater London and Greater Melbourne is both the population and area of both cities

Greater Melbourne has a population of around 4.3 million (2013 figures) and an area of around 10,000 sq kilometres.
Thats an area equivelant to roughly 100 kilmetres by 100 kilometres
Great London However has a population of 8.1 million (est 2011) and an area of only 1569 sq kilometres.
This is aproximated by an area 40 kilometres by 40 kilmetres.
Population and area figures from wikipedia.

London has double the population in less than 16% of the area of Melbourne, this would make funding of large scale projects a far easier task.

Greater Melbourne is one of the most spread out (low population density) metro areas in the world the people of Melbourne need to understand this as the only way decent infastructure can be built is by the population forking out the funds to do so. This means higher taxes. there is no other way........
Probably in the end a better way forward would be to increase the density of housing in the inner metro areas (say area covered by the tram network) to something equilvelant to most other suburban areas.


woodford
  ZH836301 Chief Commissioner

Location: BleakCity
It appears to be an insignificant project and this line was always to be extended, it was just a matter of when. Would the parties not be campaigning on bigger transport initiatives.
wxtre

You're kidding right?


Promises promises, liberals promising rail again that's funny, will any money be left over after this east west road thingy. Surely not sorry no rail to Doncaster no rail to Rowville and no rail to Mernda under the liberals.
doyle

Who cares, they're joke ideas.
  mejhammers1 Deputy Commissioner

A thing to keep in mind when comparing Greater London and Greater Melbourne is both the population and area of both cities

Greater Melbourne has a population of around 4.3 million (2013 figures) and an area of around 10,000 sq kilometres.
Thats an area equivelant to roughly 100 kilmetres by 100 kilometres
Great London However has a population of 8.1 million (est 2011) and an area of only 1569 sq kilometres.
This is aproximated by an area 40 kilometres by 40 kilmetres.
Population and area figures from wikipedia.

London has double the population in less than 16% of the area of Melbourne, this would make funding of large scale projects a far easier task.

Greater Melbourne is one of the most spread out (low population density) metro areas in the world the people of Melbourne need to understand this as the only way decent infastructure can be built is by the population forking out the funds to do so. This means higher taxes. there is no other way........
Probably in the end a better way forward would be to increase the density of housing in the inner metro areas (say area covered by the tram network) to something equilvelant to most other suburban areas.


woodford
woodford

Hi Woodford

A well thought out answer as always. I think that Don like me does not expect our projects to be on the scale of Crossrail, but lamenting on the ridiculous lead time given to the Mernda extension. London can build Crossrail, an extraordinarily complex engineering project in the middle of one of the busiest cities in the world in 9 years, and a really simple project of building 15 km of railway, a couple of stations on a mainly greenfield site is given 6 years lead time.

Michael
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Let's further conserve threads by using one thread per topic, and keep it updated.

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