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      normw Junior Train Controller

    Handover is not October 31. The line is Sydney Trains' as of Monday, all handover documentation has been completed.
    bernerd

    Then perhaps there is a conflict of terms or information:
    The latest Construction Update for the GLRL (October 2014) still shows on page 2:

    "Hand over to Sydney Trains
    On 31 October John Holland is scheduled to handover all rail infrastructure and assets,
    including the stations and stabling yard facility, to Sydney Trains. This marks a significant
    milestone for the project and is also the first step towards getting the trains on the track and ready for passenger services in early 2015."

    There were still red flags on the SFO ramps as of 12.30pm today.
    Posted: 22 Oct 2014 20:14

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      bernerd Junior Train Controller

    The documentation states that the infrastructure and assets have been handed over. Sydney Trains is now the operator and maintainer of the line. Red flags are to ensure an electric train doesn't go in there. Should be removed Friday / Saturday.
    Posted: 23 Oct 2014 06:21
      jcouch Assistant Commissioner

    Location: Asleep on a commuter train
    Maybe the 31st is for the formal ceremony to happen. Cameras, TV crew, politicians etc?  Then, another one just before the elections for the official start to services.
    Posted: 23 Oct 2014 08:17
      normw Junior Train Controller

    Maybe the 31st is for the formal ceremony to happen. Cameras, TV crew, politicians etc? Then, another one just before the elections for the official start to services.
    jcouch

    Could be. The entire project has run 'early', so perhaps the 'actual' handover was also done early, and the 31st is just for the cameras.
    Posted: 23 Oct 2014 08:43

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      Groover Train Controller

    Location: A long way from home
    If they let the line sit there until just before the election it would be one of the more cynical political exrecises to date.  It would also open up the Govt to criticism of having a "ghost" railway and questions about the benefits of finishing infrastructure projects early if they can't be used.  You would think that there is better publicity in finishing a project early and using it rather than just finishing it.  Are there any reasons why they can't start using it immediately after 31st Oct?  There are no more rollingstock deliveries scheduled and presumably timetable changes planned for the line could be brought forward.
    Posted: 23 Oct 2014 13:42
      scott4570 Chief Train Controller

    Crew Training was to have commenced from Monday October 20, and continue until the new Timetable in January 2015.
    This is to ensure enough Crews are trained on the new Line prior to Revenue services being introduced.

    However, for the period from October 20 until October 31, Crew Training has been cancelled (refer to my post from October 21).


    - Scott.
    Posted: 23 Oct 2014 14:46

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      Groover Train Controller

    Location: A long way from home
    Crew Training was to have commenced from Monday October 20, and continue until the new Timetable in January 2015.
    This is to ensure enough Crews are trained on the new Line prior to Revenue services being introduced.

    However, for the period from October 20 until October 31, Crew Training has been cancelled (refer to my post from October 21).


    - Scott.
    scott4570

    You have got to be kidding! 2 months of crew training.  What a joke.
    Posted: 23 Oct 2014 15:40
      jcouch Assistant Commissioner

    Location: Asleep on a commuter train
    Not really. The K2RQ project sat unused for the best part of 12 months before it came in to operational service in the new timetable. 2 months for crew training (which happens to include the Christmas holiday break) doesn't seem too unreasonable to me. Those crews have to come from somewhere in the normal roster.
    Posted: 23 Oct 2014 16:40
      Groover Train Controller

    Location: A long way from home
    Not really. The K2RQ project sat unused for the best part of 12 months before it came in to operational service in the new timetable. 2 months for crew training (which happens to include the Christmas holiday break) doesn't seem too unreasonable to me. Those crews have to come from somewhere in the normal roster.
    jcouch

    My apologies. I obviously live in a different universe.
    Posted: 23 Oct 2014 17:13
      normw Junior Train Controller

    My apologies. I obviously live in a different universe.
    Groover

    A more optimistic one at least. Depending on train frequency in each direction on the Leppington line then enough train crews to cover perhaps 3 shifts a day plus 'spares' for