I'm after some help

 
  ARodH Chief Train Controller

Location: East Oakleigh, Vic
I've acquired the full set of TE wagons carrying Centurion tanks and have found on the smallest curve I use, the lead wagon's buffers are potently going to have an issue with  the T-class I've semi-dedicated to move them around. While they didn't with the louvre & guards van also semi-dedicated.

Which means I'm now planing on using a flat wagon as a spacer, I just need to get an appropriate load for it. That means I'm looking for some HO scale Series 2 Land Rovers (short or long wheelbase), maybe a Land Cruiser, and/or a M113 or two. I know the Roco/Herpa minitanks range can cover some of that and there's no doubt another brand for the rest. It's just finding local stores with stock.

I remember Hearn's Hobbies having a range of minitanks back in the 90s but nothing in the more recent times that I've visited.

Now for my other query. Is there any Melbourne metro groups that do kit building meets? For I've some Steam Era Models rollingstock kits which are making me wish for an RTR version. It's not the broad outline giving me the issue, I think it's the  details.

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  SA_trains Deputy Commissioner

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I've acquired the full set of TE wagons carrying Centurion tanks and have found on the smallest curve I use, the lead wagon's buffers are potently going to have an issue with the T-class I've semi-dedicated to move them around. While they didn't with the louvre & guards van also semi-dedicated.

Which means I'm now planing on using a flat wagon as a spacer, I just need to get an appropriate load for it. That means I'm looking for some HO scale Series 2 Land Rovers (short or long wheelbase), maybe a Land Cruiser, and/or a M113 or two. I know the Roco/Herpa minitanks range can cover some of that and there's no doubt another brand for the rest. It's just finding local stores with stock.

I remember Hearn's Hobbies having a range of minitanks back in the 90s but nothing in the more recent times that I've visited.

Now for my other query. Is there any Melbourne metro groups that do kit building meets? For I've some Steam Era Models rollingstock kits which are making me wish for an RTR version. It's not the broad outline giving me the issue, I think it's the details.
ARodH

Hi ARod,

I haven't seen any Roco/Herpa military vehicles in a long time locally. Not to say they are not there of course. If looking on line, Walthers is a good starting point. The trouble may be getting the "right" items. If using Vietnam era M113, you may want to consider moving a troop of APC which would be four (or five if HQ troop).

The other alternative would be to have your spacer unloaded anyway. I suspect that Spacers would be unloaded anyway.

Good luck

Dan
  ARodH Chief Train Controller

Location: East Oakleigh, Vic
I think the flat wagon's I'm planning on using would look somewhat odd unloaded: a FQX or an SFX. I contemplated using a KQ wagon, but I believe a M113 would just be way out of place on one. An S/SX wagon would mean waiting for Eureka's, as the operator of VR Products has apparently vanished after moving to Perth, or as in reality kitbash one from an E wagon.

According to the Herpa website, their Australian distributor is T.E.S. Wholesalers out of Dubbo.

Looking at Walters, they've got M113's and some appropriate Land Rovers. But I'd prefer to get them locally before resorting to them.

If I was doing TT-scale, I could get away with using 15mm/1:100 wargaming tanks.
  art--vandalay Locomotive Fireman

Airfix make an Australian M113 fire support vehicle.  Unfortunately it's 1/76 scale, but not that much difference.
  ARodH Chief Train Controller

Location: East Oakleigh, Vic
I've discovered that Airfix does a LWB Land Rover in the same range, have yet to find that M113 though. I think it looks a bit odd when I place it next to a 1/87 20 foot container.
  art--vandalay Locomotive Fireman

You can find quite a few on ebay...and the toy/hobby shop in West Geelong still had a few when I was in there a few weeks ago.
  chironex Junior Train Controller

Location: The final destination never even comes so sit back, relax, and pray that there is one


If I was doing TT-scale, I could get away with using 15mm/1:100 wargaming tanks.
ARodH

Actually that only corresponds to UK TT, Euro and US use 1/120, and 1/100 doesn't quite give you 15mm anyway. QRF use a smaller scale.

As regards the plastics:
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Unfinished Italeri 1/72, unfinished Airfix 1/76, crashed Roco 1/87.

Trident made an FSV in HO, but it seems to have been discontinued.  This is the only address in Australia, maybe they can find you old stock:
AUS 3193 Beaumaris, Dikranis Holdings Pty, 21 Bodley Str., Tel. :+ mobile 0400 244,sales@trains-online.com.au
  ARodH Chief Train Controller

Location: East Oakleigh, Vic
I have suspicions on the possibility of that business possessing any kind of old stock for Trident.

Those scale variations of a M113 are reminiscent of what WW2 wargamers have noticed between the main sources of Tanks and other equipment that they use, each one has their own interpretation of 15 mm. A local HQ'd one goes one better and says their 15 mm equals 1:100 scale.
Relevance to model railways...the armoured trains of the eastern European front - something I don't use as my gaming army is a horde of T-34s - and their increasing use of model railway landscaping techniques in basing and terrain features.

Yes, buying a few bags of Woodland Scenics groundcover material for wargaming purposes has brought me back to trains. Hence probably my current desire to run a suitably recognizable Australian Army train load out.
Even if its currently more VR based than NSWGR.
  chironex Junior Train Controller

Location: The final destination never even comes so sit back, relax, and pray that there is one
Strictly speaking, 1/100 is 18mm. Gaming sculptors, on the other hand, aren't known for reading measuring implements. The Battlefront ones will be smaller than that, and the QRF smaller still.
  ARodH Chief Train Controller

Location: East Oakleigh, Vic
I should probably post this in another thread:

Behold, two M113's and a Land Rover series 2/3 LWB on a VR FQX wagon. They're all from the Roco/Herpa 1/87 Minitanks range and are probably the wrong colours for the Australian Army. Now that I have them, I'm at a loss on how to represent them being lashed down. Currently they're just blutacked to some wheelchocks and I suspect that I've not placed them in correct location. It'll come.

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