The Pirate Bay is no more?

 
  SydneyTrainKing Station Master

Location: Sydney, Australia
The Pirate Bay has been down for near a week.

What has happened and will it return?

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  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
My TV site eztv has been offline since last week. Could the issues be related ?
  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
The Pirate Bay has been down for near a week.

What has happened and will it return?
SydneyTrainKing

It's been WIDELY reported... Do a Google search... You might even stumble on the secret mirror.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Ah! . . . old age.  I have absolutely no idea what this is about.
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
The Pirate Bay has been down for near a week.

What has happened and will it return?
SydneyTrainKing

Who cares?
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Ah! . . . old age. I have absolutely no idea what this is about.
Valvegear

Me neither nor am I in the slightest concerned!
Googled it and still none the wiser.
  Johnmc Moderator

Location: Cloncurry, Queensland
Me neither nor am I in the slightest concerned!
Googled it and still none the wiser.
YM-Mundrabilla

Think of it as a repository of computer software, games, etc that has an ...errr... "extended trial period". Wink

Popular with lots of people who don't want to pay - for whatever reason.  Not so popular with the companies producing said product.
  Camster Chief Commissioner

Location: Geelong
People I know were saying a couple of the pirating sites for TV shows have been shut down. Not to be self smug but good. It is stealing. I don't know whether purchasing region 1 DVD's falls in the same category, but they seem to be openly for sale, so I imagine this is legal.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
I heard that people have been arrested for illegal downloading as well.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Think of it as a repository of computer software, games, etc that has an ...errr... "extended trial period". Wink

Popular with lots of people who don't want to pay - for whatever reason. Not so popular with the companies producing said product.
Johnmc

Thanks Johnmc - I have learned something today believe it or not!
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
Not an issue for the North Koreans Wink
  michaelgreenhill Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne
People I know were saying a couple of the pirating sites for TV shows have been shut down. Not to be self smug but good. It is stealing. I don't know whether purchasing region 1 DVD's falls in the same category, but they seem to be openly for sale, so I imagine this is legal.
Camster
DVD region locking was nothing more than a way for distributors to print themselves more money. There was nothing of value to the consumer to be gained by region locking content.

Thankfully most (if not all) DVD players available for sale these days are region unlocked, and software such as AnyDVD can be used on PCs to get around it.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
SWEDISH POLICE RAID THE PIRATE BAY, SITE OFFLINE

Police in Sweden carried out a raid in Stockholm today, seizing servers, computers, and other equipment. At the same time The Pirate Bay and several other torrent-related sites disappeared offline. Although no official statement has been made, TF sources confirm action against TPB.

For many years The Pirate Bay has been sailing by the seat of its pants so any downtime is met with concern from its millions of users.

This morning, for the first time in months, The Pirate Bay disappeared offline. A number of concerned users emailed TF for information but at that point technical issues seemed the most likely culprit.

However, over in Sweden authorities have just confirmed that local police carried out a raid in Stockholm this morning as part of an operation to protect intellectual property.

“There has been a crackdown on a server room in Greater Stockholm. This is in connection with violations of copyright law,” read a statement from Paul Pintér, police national coordinator for IP enforcement.

Police are staying quiet on the exact location of the operation and the targets involved but the fact that the national police IP chief is involved at this early stage suggests something sizable.

In addition, expert file-sharing case prosecutor Fredrik Ingblad has commented on the raid, further adding weight to the incident.
“There were a number of police officers and digital forensics experts there. This took place during the morning and continued until this afternoon. Several servers and computers were seized, but I cannot say exactly how many,” Ingblad told SR.

Ingblad would not be drawn on any arrests during the operation but TorrentFreak has learned that police may have detained at least one man connected to the site.

While it seems certain that The Pirate Bay has been targeted today, it was not the only casualty. Several other torrent related sites including EZTV, Zoink, Torrage and the Istole tracker are also down.

Update: The Pirate Bay’s forum Suprbay.org is also offline. The same goes for Bayimg.com and Pastebay.net.
Update: According to the police the raid targeted a data center in Nacka which is built into a “mountain.”
  Camster Chief Commissioner

Location: Geelong
Further to my earlier post, I have in the past made light of the anti pirating messages on DVD's (this was years ago) here on Railpage as I think they are a little over the top, but still think people should not just download shows/movies that are legally, or will be legally available within a reasonable time here in Australia.

Edited to add the word NOT.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

Hey bevans, I like the irony of copying a story in full and without acknowledgement of the source on a thread about piracy!
It is stealing.
"Camster"
Please let's avoid this mendacious canard.

Steal: Take (another person’s property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it. (oxforddictionaries.com)

If it's still there, it has not been taken! "Piracy" might be wrong (the morality of the current copyright model is very much up for debate) but it's not stealing.
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
Steal: Take (another person’s property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it. (oxforddictionaries.com)

If it's still there, it has not been taken! "Piracy" might be wrong (the morality of the current copyright model is very much up for debate) but it's not stealing.
justapassenger

But you can [b]steal[/b] ideas ("to appropriate (ideas, credit, words, etc.) without right or acknowledgment"), thus intellectual property, which is the case here.
  CraigW Assistant Commissioner



"Piracy" might be wrong
justapassenger

No, it is wrong.

It is theft of intellectual property as Graeme has mentioned.

Would you like it if someone pirated something that you had put time, effort and money into creating something?

Craig W
  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
But you can [b]steal[/b] ideas ("to appropriate (ideas, credit, words, etc.) without right or acknowledgment"), thus intellectual property, which is the case here.
Graham4405

I always leave the credits on my movies...
  s3_gunzel Not a gunzel developer

Location: Western Sydney, AU
No, it is wrong.

It is theft of intellectual property as Graeme has mentioned.

Would you like it if someone pirated something that you had put time, effort and money into creating something?

Craig W
CraigW

I'd just like to interject here. There are perfectly legitimate uses of torrents. Not all torrents are evil. From memory, The Pirate Bay had open source software in torrents dating back to the early '00s
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

No, it is wrong.
"CraigW"
Oh dear, looks like the school holidays have hit the forum again.

One day, maybe when you're 15 or 16, you might start to realise that the world (especially complex issues like the world of copyright) isn't as simple as right/wrong and that there are many shades of grey.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
I'd just like to interject here. There are perfectly legitimate uses of torrents. Not all torrents are evil. From memory, The Pirate Bay had open source software in torrents dating back to the early '00s
s3_gunzel

I suppose it would be legal if you were using it to distribute your own intellectual property, however, if you were to distribute someone else' intellectual property (as is often the case), especially without their permission, perhaps that's where the legal (and ethical, for that matter) issues are?
  CraigW Assistant Commissioner

Oh dear, looks like the school holidays have hit the forum again.

One day, maybe when you're 15 or 16, you might start to realise that the world (especially complex issues like the world of copyright) isn't as simple as right/wrong and that there are many shades of grey.
justapassenger

15 or 16?

I am 50 you idiot and just happen to have this old fashioned notion that if you use something you should pay for it. I realise it is a terrible imposition to consider you might have to pay more for something than you really want to. Here is an idea though, save up for it.

I have had my work taken and reproduced without my permission or even being ackowledged or asked. it stinks.

There is nothing grey about it. If you think it is is grey your morality is the flexible bit.
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
The biggest issue around pirating and why it is so prevalent in Australia was the amount we had and have to pay for content compared to the rest of the world. Sometimes it is up to 150% for no good reason; Itunes was really really bad for this especially for this. Another factor is the fact that quite a bit of downloaded content was only available in foxtel/austar channels, not everyone wants to pay $25 a month for one show that gets shown months after the rest of the world. That also brings in the convenience factor, as piracy could get you the show in less than 24 hours of showing internationally in a usually reasonably clean format (480 or 720p is the current standard of torrents)

I have noticed discrepancies with the Australian edits of shows, like the first episode of Top Gear season 21 episode one. At least 5 minutes cut because of some damn unknown reason.

But, I will admit I have downloaded products/tv shows, but hell 90% of what I have ever downloaded has been stuff from the BBC like QI and Topgear, and animes and South Park. The Beebs doesn't care about the TV shows, they care about the DVDs that get put up because that's what makes them money. Same goes for South Park.
  PaulAustin Locomotive Fireman

I have utter contempt for those who want to freeload off other people's work without giving them any royalties or compensation. What is often forgotten by the freeloaders, is that the new copyright laws didn't only help the majors, it helped a lot of little guys too. The new laws will benefit thousands of individual rights owners who have never signed to the majors, or who have managed to go independent. To argue against the copyright extension on the basis people state here is to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

The freeloaders make the (implied) mistake that the "Music Industry" = "The Record Companies", a mistake that is also made by governments, the legislature and journalists and simply is not true. Music comes down to artists and writers as individuals. Record Companies and Publishing houses are the representatives of those artists and writers, promoting and selling their work. At least, that's the way it should be, despite contracts and public posturing that suggest the opposite. And there are millions of artists who work independently, licensing their work and trying to earn a living from it. It's an argument, again, for stronger and more easily applied copyright protection that works for all, not just a select few whose size makes them powerful.

"Life + 70? That's absurd. Beyond absurd. It's obscene."

It's there, amongst other things, to encourage the writers' estates to continue to promote and exploit the work after their deaths. The royalty income is likely to be their only remuneration for that. And to provide a continuing income (in lieu of pension, in a lot of cases) for surviving relatives.

Again, I am not going to argue the rights and wrongs in detail. But the principle is a good one, that promotes the creation and preservation of artistic work.
  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
I mostly download stuff that could never and will never be broadcast again. 'Love Thy Neighbour' and 'It Ain't Half Hot Mum' were some of the latest. These shows won't make it to DVD, and they won't make it to public broadcast either, our PC laws that are about as sensible as the piracy laws have seen to that.

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