Terrorist situation in Martin place Sydney

 
  lsrailfan Minister for Railways

Location: Somewhere you're not
Why he was roaming free, is because the current Bail Laws are too soft, and they give criminals like this an advantage, if they were fair dinkum, they would have locked him up ages ago

Kind Regards

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  Aurora8 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney
As of now, ESR trains are still skipping Martin Place station, as per the Sydney Trains website.
"wurx"

Expected to resume at 10am tomorrow pending police clearance.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Why he was roaming free, is because the current Bail Laws are too soft, and they give criminals like this an advantage, if they were fair dinkum, they would have locked him up ages ago

Kind Regards
"lsrailfan"
Bail laws are not too soft. We provide bail because as a society we are not fans of incarcerating innocent people, he had no convictions for these crimes, and like it or not, is entitled to the presumption of innocence.

My argument to this is that he should never have got to the point of being in a position to require bail. As an illegal arrival, and a guest of our country, he should have been deported on conviction for his hate crimes here, not given some 'community service' and allowed to stay.
  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
I have serious doubtsabout your mental state, but never miss an opportunity to have a swipe at the adults hey womble.
northbritish

Are you serious? Your post is both amusing, and pathetic.
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
It's heartening to see how Sydneysiders have rallied together at Martin Place. Now is not the time for knee-jerk recriminations, instead our thoughts should be with the victims.

Hatred cannot be allowed to win as we're better than that.

P.S. And spare a though for those school children in Pakistan too Sad
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
My argument to this is that he should never have got to the point of being in a position to require bail. As an illegal arrival, and a guest of our country, he should have been deported on conviction for his hate crimes here, not given some 'community service' and allowed to stay.
Aaron

Illegal??

Yet granted political asylum by the Howard Government.

Oh well, you win some, you lose some.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
He was an illegal arrival, and regardless of their state of asylum we are still entitled to deport.
  cityrail-rulez Chief Train Controller

Strange! No update about Martin Place railway station, does anyone know if it's been re-opened and are the trains stopping there?

My throughts go out to the hostages and police offers involved and their families for their losses, very sad to see this happen here in Australia or anywhere in the world for that matter
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
The Howard government protects this Iranian criminal but feeds david hicks to the wolves.

Typical.
  northbritish Chief Train Controller

Inciting violence against innocent people on a railway forum.

You're a real hero.

No better than an ISIL fanatic in fact.
bingley hall

Bing just get over yourself.



Just more nonsense from you.



I don’t call people who take hostages and murderthem, or try to decapitate someone in Martin Place, or stab two Policemen, or plot to bomb our citizens in public places, or murder scores of children in schools, or bomb trains and buses, or fly planes into public buildings, just because we are not part of their belief system, I don’t call them innocent at all.



They need to be brought to account.
  northbritish Chief Train Controller

Are you serious? Your post is both amusing, and pathetic.
Barrington Womble

Well I am glad you are amused.
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
The Howard government protects this Iranian criminal but feeds david hicks to the wolves.

Typical.
freightgate

This bloke wasn't training with Al-Quida (sic) at the time he left Iran.   He did not have any criminal convictions at the time of arrival in Australia.   All his hate was towards his wives and Australia after he got here.   Deported later - yes, but not much could have been done before he received asylum.
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Have the trrain resumed stopping at Martin Place ?

Regards,
David Head
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Have the trrain resumed stopping at Martin Place ?

Regards,
David Head
"dthead"

http://bit.ly/1GrPyWh
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
He was an illegal arrival, and regardless of their state of asylum we are still entitled to deport.
Aaron

Australian Government would of been too soft the deport him back to Iran, as Iran probably would of quickly noosed him with a crane.

As It has been well stated on talkback radio that a Government can't make a person Stateless !

Could the Australian Government banish a person to an Australian External Territory (Christmas Island) I'm guessing not
  Aurora8 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Yes, train stopping at Martin Place resumed at 10am this morning, as planned.
  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
Well I am glad you are amused.
northbritish

It's not hard to be with clowns like you about.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Australian Government would of been too soft the deport him back to Iran, as Iran probably would of quickly noosed him with a crane.

As It has been well stated on talkback radio that a Government can't make a person Stateless !

Could the Australian Government banish a person to an Australian External Territory (Christmas Island) I'm guessing not
Nightfire

He is still an Iranian national, revoking a TPV does not make a person 'stateless'. That is why The Greens dislike TPVs so much, they're reversible, and The Greens want a continuous nutter population to vote for them.
  northbritish Chief Train Controller

It's not hard to be with clowns like you about.
Barrington Womble

Now now Womble, be nice!
  kapow Junior Train Controller

Location: Melmac
Bing just get over yourself.



Just more nonsense from you.



I don’t call people who take hostages and murderthem, or try to decapitate someone in Martin Place, or stab two Policemen, or plot to bomb our citizens in public places, or murder scores of children in schools, or bomb trains and buses, or fly planes into public buildings, just because we are not part of their belief system, I don’t call them innocent at all.



They need to be brought to account.
northbritish

Who exactly needs to be brought to account?
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
John Howard.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE


As It has been well stated on talkback radio that a Government can't make a person Stateless !

Nightfire

Techical correction, yes it can happen. Happened to my dad for 20 years, but it was a mistake by the Australian govt not following the Geneva convention (many years back). He only found out when he went to apply for a Dutch passport who said he was no longer one of them due to failure to attent military conscription and then Australia told him he's not one of us as a citizen, but still is a Perm Resident. He travelled to USA for business using papers that is not a citizen passport.

The Middle East is also full of stateless people in UAE and other GCC countries.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Who exactly needs to be brought to account?
kapow

Nailed it!
  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
Now now Womble, be nice!
northbritish

Funny you'd say that now, seeing as you instigated this dialog. Kitchen a little too hot for you, Princess? Laughing
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Why he was roaming free, is because the current Bail Laws are too soft, and they give criminals like this an advantage, if they were fair dinkum, they would have locked him up ages ago

Kind Regards
lsrailfan

Its been stated in the media that the laws have been changed but not yet implemented that after Jan nex year he would be in jail because of the incident over is dead former wife.

Reading the paper the other day on issues following this guy by various govt agencies there is a long list of things that will need "fixing".

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