Yard identification

 
  Toad Montgomery Chief Commissioner

Location: Port Hedland: Team EMU want's YOU!
G'day, I've been scanning some images and i'm having trouble identifying this yard.

http://pilbararailways.com.au/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=4108

The images before are at Peterborough, and after at Dry Creek.

It's at least a dual gauge yard, and dates from 1991 as the second Perth AEA class railcars were seen.

So is it Peterborough, or somewhere else?

Cheers,
Toad.

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  duttonbay Minister for Railways

My immediate thought was the bogie-exchange yard at Peterborough, but I can't quickly find any photos (either in my collection or online) to support that thinking.
  ARG706 Chief Commissioner

Location: SA
It looks like it may be Terowie, going by the semi arid colour of the hills in the background, the different types of rails (formerly narrow gauge?) on the left compared to the right. However, I'm not sure what 958 is up to though given that it wasn't frequently used as terminus after 1970 with the BG conversion to Peterborough.

There are hills on both side of the yard, and virtually no buildings to the right. I could be wrong though.
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

I thought that the dual gauge is standard and broad, not narrow.  Given the broad gauge was extended through to Peterborough in 1970, which resulted in Terowie essentially disappearing, a yard scene like this is hardly likely in 1991. Note: This reasoning may also rule out Peterborough, since the BG line closed in the late 1980s but the yard looks unused to me.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
I tend to agree with duttonbay, the Bogie exchange yard at the eastern end of Peterborough.
The photo is taken looking in a south easterly direction.
  xdford Chief Train Controller

I tend to agree with duttonbay, the Bogie exchange yard at the eastern end of Peterborough.
The photo is taken looking in a south easterly direction.
Pressman

Hi Tony,  I'll back you up that it is the Eastern end of Peterborough. The lines at the front are NG for the meat works off loading but were seldom used after 1970 or so and probably never after 1980. The end of the Broad Gauge was the exchange shed south end and it never went to that eastern leg except for about 200 meters or so as a safety margin. The SG did the reverse of course. I have a memory that 958 may have been at one point on SG and the usual modus operandi was that locos came off/coupled on their trains in the eastern yard up for servicing at the loco depot until I last saw the operation in 1981 or 82 even though Pt Pirie and the old Comrail depot was also still in use.

Hope this helps

Trevor
  Bethungra Train Controller

Hi Tony,  I'll back you up that it is the Eastern end of Peterborough. The lines at the front are NG for the meat works off loading but were seldom used after 1970 or so and probably never after 1980.

Trevor
xdford

Can you tell us more Trevor about the meat works traffic?
  xdford Chief Train Controller

Can you tell us more Trevor about the meat works traffic?
Bethungra

I lived there between May 75 and February 76. The NG lines mainly terminated adjacent to the station and trans-shipping occurred in that part of the yard for wheat bags etc.  I remember seeing the Quorn goods  with livestock vehicles ready to go out (late at night hence not many photos exist)but I was seldom there because of other duties when they came back in.

The meat works was on the Eastern side of town probably halfway to Dowd's hill but on the Northern side of the road. I don't remember a level Crossing but a check of Google Earth shows what looks like rail sidings at the rear. Many of the guys I lived with at the Railway Hotel worked there and the Beef shift was the one to get onto with most being home by lunch with a full days pay... I also remember seeing a few BG trains leaving with stock cars so perhaps there was a move to send them to Pooraka then(?)

Sorry I cannot tell you much more than that.

Regards

Trevor
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Informative post. Did the quorn goods run daily and what was the typical motive power ?
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

3 days a week in 1966, behind an 830 class.  Prior to the diesels it was a T class.
  Toad Montgomery Chief Commissioner

Location: Port Hedland: Team EMU want's YOU!
Thanks for the replies and information generated.
I had a thinking it was Peterborough, so it's excellent to have it confirmed.

Thanks for the assistance.

Now for the next one:

http://pilbararailways.com.au/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=4094

I was under the impression that this was near Two Wells?
But goggle earth isn't conclusive unless the area has changed a great deal.

A different angle on the other side of the line of the same train and location is here:

http://pilbararailways.com.au/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=4132

Thanks again in advance for any assistance or a positive id on the location.

Cheers,
Toad.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
G'day Toad,

Southern end of Long Plains Crossing Loop (the next crossing loop north of Two Wells)
  xdford Chief Train Controller

Informative post. Did the quorn goods run daily and what was the typical motive power ?
freightgate

In 1975, there was only 867 on the Quorn line. There was one scheduled train a week plus extras for wheat when needed and a road truck with freight to Orroroo scheduled once a week.

Regards

Trevor
  Toad Montgomery Chief Commissioner

Location: Port Hedland: Team EMU want's YOU!
Thanks Pressman,
It looks a bit different on streetview these days, and the stick is located further south too now?
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Thanks Pressman,
It looks a bit different on streetview these days, and the stick is located further south too now?
"Toad Montgomery"

The joys of Street view!!!!!!!
One angle shows the stick a fair way south of the LC, yet adjust the view position into the side road and the stick is right next to the LC (which has suddenly lost it's flashing lights and had Stop signs fitted!!!!)
One angle has a 2014 date, the other is dated 2013!!!!
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Sorry of this is a little off topic but is the line still down between Peterborough and Quorn?

The old red rail bridge at Orroroo still standing?
  hosk1956 Deputy Commissioner

Location: no where near gunzels
Sorry of this is a little off topic but is the line still down between Peterborough and Quorn?

The old red rail bridge at Orroroo still standing?
bevans
The rail line has been lifted between Peterborough and Bruce.
The only two bridges that I know have remained are Black Rock bridge and Red bridge at Ororroo.

Wayne
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The rail line has been lifted between Peterborough and Bruce.
The only two bridges that I know have remained are Black Rock bridge and Red bridge at Ororroo.

Wayne
hosk1956

Thanks for your feedback.

Do you know when the line was lifted and by whom?  I was of the impression (obviously incorrectly) steam town had the line between those locations?
  hosk1956 Deputy Commissioner

Location: no where near gunzels
Thanks for your feedback.

Do you know when the line was lifted and by whom?  I was of the impression (obviously incorrectly) steam town had the line between those locations?
bevans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sulzer55/Sandbox

Wayne

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