Ringwood Railway Station plan released

 
  Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

Location:
These are today's photos from the footbridge.


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  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
Concrete sleepers in the pit, the first ones laid at Ringwood station in nearly twenty years. It would be good if they did the ancient, noisy, wooden-sleepered crossovers while they're at it, but I suspect they're in the too hard basket, just like that tiny 100m section between Mitcham and Nunawading.
  712M Chief Commissioner

Will having only two platforms at Ringwood have any affect on the timetable? Peak hour terminating services from the city used Platform 2 while up services used Platform 1 and shuttle services on the weekend and evenings made extensive use of the island platform for easy interchanging. Would it be correct to assume that passengers will now have to change trains via the footbridge in the evenings?
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

The station concept plan here:
http://ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/PTV/PTV%20docs/Ringwood/PTVH0442_RINGWOOD_16PG_DL_MAP.pdf
shows three platforms. Has the plan been changed?  If not, I wonder when the track through platform 2 will be reinstated - that will mean another shutdown.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
The station concept plan here:
http://ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/PTV/PTV%20docs/Ringwood/PTVH0442_RINGWOOD_16PG_DL_MAP.pdf
shows three platforms. Has the plan been changed?  If not, I wonder when the track through platform 2 will be reinstated - that will mean another shutdown.
duttonbay
Apparently it will be in two weeks when the reconstruction of the platform is completed.
  davesvline Chief Commissioner

Location: 1983-1998
Lets just say that IMHO from what I've seen in the space of a week, Ringwood station has seriously gone from an old run down looking dilapidated sh!tpit, to something resembling a modern and fresh looking transport hub that we should all expect now in 2015. All this mind you, achieved mostly with the removal of that god awful excuse for a heritage signal box (when it was boxed up looked like most of the problem here) which has now been relocated near the station where its heritage can hopefully be enjoyed.

Whilst they're at it, a pity they cant gas axe the bridge dividers between the tracks that protrude up from the Ringwood Warrandyte Rd bridge, so they can realign the tracks such that Belgrave trains departing Ringwood platform 3 don't change to the centre track to then have to changeover again going down the Belgrave line. Anyone who's a regular on the Belgrave line and doesn't feel being chucked from one side of the train to the other traversing this shemozle is to still to realize that its clearly it's one set of points too many required. Can we do it all in one move PLEASE......

Regards


ps - Its looking bloody great thus far.
  Madjikthise Assistant Commissioner

Lets just say that IMHO from what I've seen in the space of a week, Ringwood station has seriously gone from an old run down looking dilapidated sh!tpit, to something resembling a modern and fresh looking transport hub that we should all expect now in 2015. All this mind you, achieved mostly with the removal of that god awful excuse for a heritage signal box (when it was boxed up looked like most of the problem here) which has now been relocated near the station where its heritage can hopefully be enjoyed.

Whilst they're at it, a pity they cant gas axe the bridge dividers between the tracks that protrude up from the Ringwood Warrandyte Rd bridge, so they can realign the tracks such that Belgrave trains departing Ringwood platform 3 don't change to the centre track to then have to changeover again going down the Belgrave line. Anyone who's a regular on the Belgrave line and doesn't feel being chucked from one side of the train to the other traversing this shemozle is to still to realize that its clearly it's one set of points too many required. Can we do it all in one move PLEASE......

Regards


ps - Its looking bloody great thus far.
davesvline
That has nothing to do with how many tracks you cross, it's because of the condition and poor construction of the points.
And that second set of points is required for the siding.
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
Pity they couldn't think of moving one of the tracks to the former freight/express section in the middle and move the platform up, that would remove at least one useless section of S-bends. It wouldn't be too hard to relocate (and restore) the wooden building on platforms 1+2.

Concept based on VicSig drawing (signals may need work, I have no idea about signalling - yes, there is a signal missing from the down end of platform 2, so be it)
http://www.2shared.com/photo/AZcUijFr/rwd_new.html
  davesvline Chief Commissioner

Location: 1983-1998
That has nothing to do with how many tracks you cross, it's because of the condition and poor construction of the points.
And that second set of points is required for the siding.
Madjikthise
Partly true.
Belgrave trains departing Ringwood platform 3 cross to the centre track before the Ringwood Warrandyte Rd bridge, and then divert off the centre track down the Belgrave line just before the sidings ending at Bedford Rd. The points you refer to are separate to this going into these sidings, and are clearly after the branch off to the Belgrave line.

I'm simply saying that if the bridge dividers between the 3 tracks weren't there, then trackwork could be unf&*ked whereby, Belgrave trains departing platform 3 could simply continue up the same track over a set of points and CROSS the centre track and continue down the Belgrave line in ONE move. This a)- removes 2 sets of points at RWD304 and replaces them with a cross closer to RWD 305 and, b) alleviates passengers being chucked all over the place traversing the set of points from the centre track going down the Belgrave line.

Anyone who uses this service knows exactly what I'm talking about here. Its about getting across the centre track, and not having to go down it in the first place, which is silly IMHO.

Regards
  Madjikthise Assistant Commissioner

If the points were built using curved blades and were maintained properly this subject wouldn't exist.
Box Hill and Camberwell have the same problem (as well as many other places), but locations using curved blades are not an issue. For example: Mooroolbark.
  Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

Location:
It looks like platform 2 will be back in action soon.
It slopes upward toward the track.
The slope may even be steeper than on the DDA compliant ramps that'll be eventually installed here.


  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
I imagine they're rebuilding the platforms one by one (2 then 1 then 3)?
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

The back platform will be next. Don't know whether that's 1 or 3, but I mean the southern platform face of the island.
  jamesadams7 Station Master

I wonder if the slope is so steep so that the platform is actually level with the train carriage? Or have we still not worked that out, and will wheelchair ramps be required again?
  davesvline Chief Commissioner

Location: 1983-1998
I wonder if the slope is so steep so that the platform is actually level with the train carriage? Or have we still not worked that out, and will wheelchair ramps be required again?
jamesadams7
Platform 2 is now level with the carriage entrance. Platform 1 unsure but is reasonably close IIRC. Platform 3 is totally stuffed. All they did initially was rip up the old track and sleepers, clean it out and drop in a new one with concrete sleepers and ballast. Looking across at the new surface of platform 2 from platform 3, or looking into the track bed, platform 3 is at least a foot lower. I imagine the renewal works on platform 3 will see this raised to the same height as 2 thus alleviating the current platform fall towards the track.

Regards
  Bullucked Assistant Commissioner

Platform 2 is now level with the carriage entrance. Platform 1 unsure but is reasonably close IIRC. Platform 3 is totally stuffed. All they did initially was rip up the old track and sleepers, clean it out and drop in a new one with concrete sleepers and ballast. Looking across at the new surface of platform 2 from platform 3, or looking into the track bed, platform 3 is at least a foot lower. I imagine the renewal works on platform 3 will see this raised to the same height as 2 thus alleviating the current platform fall towards the track.

Regards
davesvline
Platform 2 is now lower than carriage level causing problems with the wheel chair ramps.
Platform 2 encountered a 'platform strike' last night whereby a Comeng came into contact with it.
You would've thought the crews would move immediately on to platform 1, then 3. Oh no. Everybody has packed up and moved away, for now.
We watch with interest.
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
Why would platforms 1 and 3 be touched? The contractors are robots just doing what they were paid to do, demolish platform 2 and rebuild it.

From my observation at just before 6AM this morning, platform 2 (down end) seems to meet up with the floor of an empty X'Trapolis carriage. Platform 1 is about 3-4 inches (~10cm) lower than the floor.

In other news, trains seem to be travelling at line speed (or at least 60km/h) between Heatherdale and Mitcham again, as opposed to the speed of a W class tram, following rail/sleeper replacement.
  Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

Location:
For a few days now I've been wondering what this structure on the old bus stop site is.
It's not in the plan, so I think it'll be part of the new concourse.
There are concrete pillars on the platforms and the footbridge will be closed before dawn on Sunday morning so perhaps it'll be lifted into place then.
  Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

Location:
The face of platform 3 has been demolished and it will reopen on 24 June.
I decided to take a panoramic photo of the concourse.

The full size version can be found here.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5556/18666988559_2ae17a20ba_o.jpg
  trestle_nutter Train Controller

Location: Yarra Valley
platforms 1 & 2 are not operating at the moment with trains not stopping in the Up direction but crawling through 2 road - passengers must get off at Heatherdale & get a Down train back to Ringwood or Mitcham to get a bus back

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  trainbrain Deputy Commissioner

these station replacements now resemble those that u c on qld translink network , ugly but I suppose modern
  toastywarmhamster Station Master

Location: Space and Time
All platforms open again as of tomorrow. Some minor works remain....
  retromelb Chief Commissioner

August 20 flyover view of Eastland redevelopment. Ringwood station precinct 2:15 - 2:40...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y91TqnFE87k

(YouTube: MrCamRonski)
  Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

Location:
Since the new section of Eastland opened recently I decided to go there and take a panoramic photo of the station.
The photo looks more like an artist's impression than the real station does.
It's just a shame about that bus.

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