Tram Tracking?

 
  Barggoa Beginner

Any tram fans in here like myself?  Can we do some tram tracking?

Install a tram camera and monitor all trams through the location using the yarra trams tracker site.

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  X'Trapolis-904M Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Any tram fans in here like myself?  Can we do some tram tracking?

Install a tram camera and monitor all trams through the location using the yarra trams tracker site.
Barggoa
Can maybe do this with some code

ping @michaelgreenhill
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
Any tram fans in here like myself?  Can we do some tram tracking?

Install a tram camera and monitor all trams through the location using the yarra trams tracker site.
Barggoa
Put your idea here.
  X'Trapolis-904M Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Put your idea here.
railblogger
I did do one
https://www.railpage.com.au/ideas/general/expand-the-sightings-to-trams
  michaelgreenhill Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne
It's a novel idea, but not something we will spend resources on for the foreseeable future.
  JoppaJunction Chief Train Controller

Location: Banned
It's a novel idea, but not something we will spend resources on for the foreseeable future.
michaelgreenhill

Not convinced in the value of a tram cam.   Would be a very busy camera.
  michaelgreenhill Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne
Not convinced in the value of a tram cam.   Would be a very busy camera.
JoppaJunction
Which is just one reason why it doesn't fit in with our current railcam model and plans. As I said, not something we'll invest time in for the foreseeable future Smile
  X'Trapolis-904M Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
It's a novel idea, but not something we will spend resources on for the foreseeable future.
michaelgreenhill
Remember this is Railpage Not Trampage Laughing
  michaelgreenhill Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne
Remember this is Railpage Not Trampage Laughing
X'Trapolis-904M
You're the one who came up with the idea, not me. I don't need telling.
  JoppaJunction Chief Train Controller

Location: Banned
You're the one who came up with the idea, not me. I don't need telling.
michaelgreenhill

I mean where would you put the camera?  It would be a challenge
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
Remember this is Railpage Not Trampage Laughing
X'Trapolis-904M
Last time I checked, most trams ran on rails...
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
I mean where would you put the camera?  It would be a challenge
JoppaJunction
St. Kilda/Port Melbourne light rail. Smile
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
St. Kilda/Port Melbourne light rail. Smile
Heihachi_73

It is technically possible to install a tram cam on the network at the location you suggest but in terms of priority and funding it would not be in the top 5 railcar projects.

By way of interest. I have reviewed the tram tracker site today and notice when you are watching a stop say Elgin Street Carlton, the output or at least some of it is masked.

Why is this?

  X'Trapolis-904M Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
There is a API for it just plot all trams on a map
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
There is a API for it just plot all trams on a map
X'Trapolis-904M

Sure. But I am talking about the display on the yarra Trams website.  Why would they mask any data?
  X'Trapolis-904M Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
For what?
bevans
Tram tracker
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Developing code for this project is a large planning and writing exercise.  The only way I can see this getting of the ground is when the code here is stable and other projects have been completed.

By way of this idea I believe the best way to approach the idea would be to setup a camera overlook a stop in a suburb where car traffic and pedestrian traffic would bot set off the camera.  This is tricky to get right.

Once you have the camera connected and data/images are flowing these could be placed into the DAMS. However to really make this work well it would benefit the project if the tram ID could be connected with the location of the camera.

Let me explain.  To have any real value you would want to create a digital database of the various trams on the network.  To do this we would need to identify the tram as it transited the location of the camera, store the image and the date and time and tram type and number.  Then you would have sightings of each tram type and the date and time and location in which it was taken.

You could also list the tram types and id's through a specific location using a similar concept under development here: http://www.railpage.com.au/timetables which are are still to complete in terms of data. Yarra Trams do make it a little easier than ARTC.

We do not have a tram database but one could be built.  To do this Michael would need some coding assistance as we have a lot on already.

Any interesting project but I don't believe Michael and I could fund this over and above the other projects we have coming down the pipeline. I do like the idea however.

I am prepared if someone provides some funding and a location to setup a camera and capture some images if you would like to do this.
  BigBoy2015 Station Master

That is a terrific response and outline @bevans it makes perfect sense.  I continue to be impressed with you guys. To build a database of all the different trams on the network transiting a single point on the network and to store this for later retrieval is a sound idea.

As you mention this project would need to be funded.  Have you or the rest of the team considered approaching the government or Yarra Trams for funding.  if they did fund a project like this it would be a good marketing exercise.
  JimYarin Chief Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
That is a terrific response and outline @bevans it makes perfect sense.  I continue to be impressed with you guys. To build a database of all the different trams on the network transiting a single point on the network and to store this for later retrieval is a sound idea.
BigBoy2015

Completely agree. I would prefer to see (selfishly) a railcam at Mount Lofty before a tramcam but the project itself is very very interesting.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Albion will be completed as a project prior to any other railcar installation being started.

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