50 level crossings to be removed

 
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
If you are right then Andrews is gone at the next election.  

Do you ever feel Australia is stuck in a political time warp where promise after promise and policy after policy is never delivered ?

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  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Also announced,

Labor wants the Liberals to agree to there plans to lease the Port of Melbourne?! Lol.... Please, this has underfunded project written all over it.. Labor have promised, promised and promised but I don't think they actually got there coatings done right... Time will tell.. Oh mind you itll be the Liberals fault of course If he doesn't complete his 50.
Grosso

The way Dan and his team have hit the ground running is very impressive indeed...considering they were only elected three months ago AND we had the Christmas & New Year break in that time. I expect to see the Victorian Labor government re-elected in 4 years time, kind of like Steve Bracks who lasted 3 electoral cycles before John Brumby let us down and the voters passed judgement accordingly.

Mike.
  jamesadams7 Station Master

Also announced,

Labor wants the Liberals to agree to there plans to lease the Port of Melbourne?! Lol.... Please, this has underfunded project written all over it.. Labor have promised, promised and promised but I don't think they actually got there coatings done right... Time will tell.. Oh mind you itll be the Liberals fault of course If he doesn't complete his 50.
Grosso

I don't understand what you're trying to say? Both the Coalition and Labor took a 99 year lease of the Port of Melbourne to the last election, with the ALP saying the money would be used for level crossing removals and the Liberals for Melbourne Rail Link. Why would the Liberals be opposed now, and where is the broken promise?
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
On the topic of actual level crossing removals, I passed over the Burke Road intersection yesterday and noticed work is well under way. Does anyone know if the line is to be sunk by a substantial degree there? It looks to me like they won't need to lower it much.

What happens to all these locations where the railway line is sunk to a substantial degree and there's a heavy day of rain - will the cutting turn into a culvert? I guess we'll find out.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
On the topic of actual level crossing removals, I passed over the Burke Road intersection yesterday and noticed work is well under way. Does anyone know if the line is to be sunk by a substantial degree there? It looks to me like they won't need to lower it much.

What happens to all these locations where the railway line is sunk to a substantial degree and there's a heavy day of rain - will the cutting turn into a culvert? I guess we'll find out.
don_dunstan
We may already have. How well did the cutting at Mitcham cope with the recent wet weather?
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

The way Dan and his team have hit the ground running is very impressive indeed...considering they were only elected three months ago AND we had the Christmas & New Year break in that time. I expect to see the Victorian Labor government re-elected in 4 years time, kind of like Steve Bracks who lasted 3 electoral cycles before John Brumby let us down and the voters passed judgement accordingly.

Mike.
The Vinelander
@The Vinelander

God your sycophantic pandering to the ALP is worst than Bogong and Grosso's to the Coalition. Mr Andrews has made a few announcements that is all let's wait a year or so before we judge their performance. If Andrews performs he will get the Vics public vote, if he doesnt well you know what will happen

One has to be more critical of State Government's or we have the same stuck in the rut cycle as regards to PT as we have had before.

Michael
  jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

Location: Near Caulfield Station
On the topic of actual level crossing removals, I passed over the Burke Road intersection yesterday and noticed work is well under way. Does anyone know if the line is to be sunk by a substantial degree there? It looks to me like they won't need to lower it much.

What happens to all these locations where the railway line is sunk to a substantial degree and there's a heavy day of rain - will the cutting turn into a culvert? I guess we'll find out.
don_dunstan
I don't know how far they will have to sink the line but given the crossing is a kind of 'valley' I'd imagine the sinking won't actually be that great.  The grade will be easier on the up side as there is a longer distance between Gardiner - Tooronga.  On the down side towards Glen Iris I would think it's a bit more difficult, but obviously there is a plan.  From some maps I've seen in the Stonnington Council plan for the area (see the other thread on the Burke Rd grade separation) it looks like the railway alignment will be slightly north from where it is now.  At the moment I believe much of the work is for infrastructure alignment - moving power and signalling cables out of the way.  I would hope that this work is going to future proof this part of the line for future grade separations at Tooronga & Glen Iris.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
I would hope that this work is going to future proof this part of the line for future grade separations at Tooronga & Glen Iris.
jdekorte
I haven't seen Glenferrie Rd on a list of X-ings to be done under the current term of the Andrews government - correct me if I'm wrong?
  gxh Junior Train Controller

Location: SE suburbs
I haven't seen Glenferrie Rd on a list of X-ings to be done under the current term of the Andrews government - correct me if I'm wrong?
don_dunstan
Glenferrie Rd, Kooyong?    Perhaps Dan doesn't count the parents of Scotch students and members of the Kooyong tennis club (both of whom are users of this crossing) as being big supporters of his side of politics?   Pity about the trams, though.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
I haven't seen Glenferrie Rd on a list of X-ings to be done under the current term of the Andrews government - correct me if I'm wrong?
don_dunstan
I don't see it on the list either.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
@The Vinelander

God your sycophantic pandering to the ALP is worst than Bogong and Grosso's to the Coalition. Mr Andrews has made a few announcements that is all let's wait a year or so before we judge their performance. If Andrews performs he will get the Vics public vote, if he doesnt well you know what will happen

One has to be more critical of State Government's or we have the same stuck in the rut cycle as regards to PT as we have had before.

Michael
mejhammers1
On the topic of actual level crossing removals, I passed over the Burke Road intersection yesterday and noticed work is well under way. Does anyone know if the line is to be sunk by a substantial degree there? It looks to me like they won't need to lower it much.

What happens to all these locations where the railway line is sunk to a substantial degree and there's a heavy day of rain - will the cutting turn into a culvert? I guess we'll find out.
don_dunstan


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  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Glenferrie Rd, Kooyong?    Perhaps Dan doesn't count the parents of Scotch students and members of the Kooyong tennis club (both of whom are users of this crossing) as being big supporters of his side of politics?   Pity about the trams, though.
gxh
It's probably not as important/congested as others are across the network - it's also very tight around there and I can't see how a grade separation can be done easily without property acquisitions/demolitions.
  mickamious Junior Train Controller

Andrews - Dud
Labor - Dud
Greens - Dud

Grade separations should be able to cope with the recent storms weve had. You'd hope corners are not cut through the constructions process especially when it comes to drainage.

Dan,
Will cave and build the EWL, watch and see gents.
There is no money for his crossings, no more for his Melbourne metro tunnel but there is money for EWL. The state will backlash and remove the Labor government If we pay more than $500mil in compensation for absolutely nothing and if Daniel Andrews introduces legislation to prevent compensation being paid. Everyone knows no-one will do business with a state that does whatever it can to avoid paying campo.

Time will tell but this government will be one term.
50 crossings, 8 years your dreaming Dan!
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Andrews - Dud
Labor - Dud
Greens - Dud

Grade separations should be able to cope with the recent storms weve had. You'd hope corners are not cut through the constructions process especially when it comes to drainage.

Dan,
Will cave and build the EWL, watch and see gents.
There is no money for his crossings, no more for his Melbourne metro tunnel but there is money for EWL. The state will backlash and remove the Labor government If we pay more than $500mil in compensation for absolutely nothing and if Daniel Andrews introduces legislation to prevent compensation being paid. Everyone knows no-one will do business with a state that does whatever it can to avoid paying campo.

Time will tell but this government will be one term.
50 crossings, 8 years your dreaming Dan!
mickamious
Seriously Mickamious, get you hand off it and acknowledge that the Coalition Government has done a sneaky under handed way of getting the EWL through, a link that does not pass a cost benefit analysis.

I agree that the EWL was shelved for the wrong reasons and he is not going to do 50 crossings in 8 years. And it is of my Belief that the Melbourne Metro Tunnel should not be built

But, enough of your Tory bollox and of that bloody road !!!

Michael
  mickamious Junior Train Controller

Sneaky?!
What was sneaky about it?!
It was public knowledge, the councils, one of which I live in had held the whole process up with their stupid legal challenge.
Moreland City Council and Yarra City Council are an absolute hopeless bunch with no vision for the future!
This project was public knowledge and was coated accurately compared to any project Labor had produced under there previous government.
North-South Pipeline?! Where's this at?!
Desal Plant?! Again where we at with this?!

It's not utter nonsense when it's the bloody truth. Rail DOES NOT serve the majority of this state especially to the city, east and west. The EWL needs to come before the Melb Metro. The program the Liberals had in place was 2-3 crossings to be removed a year and this was being delivered effectively each year, every year!

I'm not biased towards a political party even though I vote liberal but the facts of what Labor produced of when they were last in power is that they're bigger thinkers but not cost effective ones!
  woodford Chief Commissioner

On the topic of actual level crossing removals, I passed over the Burke Road intersection yesterday and noticed work is well under way. Does anyone know if the line is to be sunk by a substantial degree there? It looks to me like they won't need to lower it much.

What happens to all these locations where the railway line is sunk to a substantial degree and there's a heavy day of rain - will the cutting turn into a culvert? I guess we'll find out.
don_dunstan

All sunken constructions, be it rail, road or buildings do have a drainage scheme, in the past when railways were first built these consisted of ceramic pipes often going hundreds of metres down hill to the outlet. These days if there is no near low point an automatic pumpimg system is installed, In operation these are completely transparent, ie one simply does not know they exist.

woodford
  Bobman Locomotive Fireman

Andrews - Dud
Labor - Dud
Greens - Dud

Time will tell but this government will be one term.
50 crossings, 8 years your dreaming Dan!
mickamious
Accurate post here.

The Labor fanboys are boasting about progress, but the cold hard fact is that the crossings having work done now were funded and started by Liberal.

I'm speaking of Blackburn, Glen Iris, Ormond & St. Albans.

So, let's take those away since they're not Labor's crossings and we're left with let's say 16 crossings by 2018, fully funded and started by Labor.

Good luck!
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Sneaky?!
What was sneaky about it?!
It was public knowledge, the councils, one of which I live in had held the whole process up with their stupid legal challenge.
Moreland City Council and Yarra City Council are an absolute hopeless bunch with no vision for the future!
This project was public knowledge and was coated accurately compared to any project Labor had produced under there previous government.
North-South Pipeline?! Where's this at?!
Desal Plant?! Again where we at with this?!

It's not utter nonsense when it's the bloody truth. Rail DOES NOT serve the majority of this state especially to the city, east and west. The EWL needs to come before the Melb Metro. The program the Liberals had in place was 2-3 crossings to be removed a year and this was being delivered effectively each year, every year!

I'm not biased towards a political party even though I vote liberal but the facts of what Labor produced of when they were last in power is that they're bigger thinkers but not cost effective ones!
mickamious
Mickamious

I did not say that no one had known about it, you are misinterpreting what I am saying. I am saying that they sneakily tried to force it through knowing full well it was just before state election time to stitch up deals, instead of waiting until after the election.  By any account that is sneaky.

Now how do you know it was accurately costed? I dont' know how you would know when the design for some of the exits where changed on a whim on occasions.

I agree with you about Yarra Council and Moreland (why Moreland I dont think the EWL goes through Moreland), they are typical crappy Local Councils.

Michael
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
It's a waste of time complaining about the need to build it, it's not going to happen - not for years (if at all). The public voted against it four months ago and it's done and dusted.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

It's a waste of time complaining about the need to build it, it's not going to happen - not for years (if at all). The public voted against it four months ago and it's done and dusted.
don_dunstan
And you know what Don, The Melbourne Metro will not be built either!!! And I hope it doesnt.

This is what I find utterly frustrating. The Government is adamant it will deliver the Melbourne Metro by 2026, a project of Crossrail like proportions and Budget and its not even taking charge of delivery of a small station (Southland) or the Bendigo Metro Rail, leaving that to the Community. If they cant or wont take charge of tiny projects such as those aforementioned how are they going to Manage a Mega Project such as the Melbourne Metro.

There is so much to be done regarding Public Transport and it does not require $12 Billion thrown at it.

Michael
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
And you know what Don, The Melbourne Metro will not be built either!!! And I hope it doesn't.
mejhammers1


Amazing isn't it. The new government hasn't even been in office for 100 days yet...but the naysayers and non-believers would have us believe that Dan is washed up through a total lack of inertia...

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/daniel-andrews-entering-the-political-danger-zone-20150304-13ugyv.html

Mike.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Sorry to dig up an old thread but does anyone know what is going on at Burke Rd crossing removal this weekend? I was surprised by the bustitution today using the Glen Waverley line; I can't find any reference on the internet to the exact works they're doing this weekend and I'm interested to know what point they're up to with that.
  jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

Location: Near Caulfield Station
Sorry to dig up an old thread but does anyone know what is going on at Burke Rd crossing removal this weekend? I was surprised by the bustitution today using the Glen Waverley line; I can't find any reference on the internet to the exact works they're doing this weekend and I'm interested to know what point they're up to with that.
don_dunstan
I anticipate this will be an ongoing thread as the works progress.

I think there is a whole package of works on this weekend.  I spotted overhead crews working at Richmond yesterday. I believe signalling systems are being commissioned between Burnley & Camberwell - buses are also substituting trains between Parliament - Camberwell/Alamein.  Possibly tied into this is work on the crossing.  If the trains are out for the weekend, it's a perfect time to relocate more underground services.  And there is work taking place in the Burnley Loop.

From the posters I've read at Gardiner, major works will be commencing on the crossing in June.
  Crossover Train Controller

Location: St. Albans Victoria
Amazing isn't it. The new government hasn't even been in office for 100 days yet...but the naysayers and non-believers would have us believe that Dan is washed up through a total lack of inertia...

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/daniel-andrews-entering-the-political-danger-zone-20150304-13ugyv.html

Mike.
The Vinelander
Lets not forget the Liberals forever taking credit for Regional Rail ; Commenced and funded by the ALP .
Also whatever happened to the lines to Rowville & Avalon ?
Wasn`t it Mr Abbott who said the election " Is a  a referendum on the East West Link ? Whatever happened ?
  Crossover Train Controller

Location: St. Albans Victoria
Amazing isn't it. The new government hasn't even been in office for 100 days yet...but the naysayers and non-believers would have us believe that Dan is washed up through a total lack of inertia...

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/daniel-andrews-entering-the-political-danger-zone-20150304-13ugyv.html

Mike.
Lets not forget the Liberals forever taking credit for Regional Rail ; Commenced and funded by the ALP .
Also whatever happened to the lines to Rowville & Avalon ?
Wasn`t it Mr Abbott who said the election " Is a  a referendum on the East West Link ? Whatever happened ?

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