Auscision Models Blog

 
  Fairlight Station Master

Location: Always watching....
I think the sound option is going to be the next phase of the RTR revolution for Aussie outline. Considering the US market has it readily available in all the big brands, it was only a matter of time before it began here. Problem is that it will add that extra $100+ per model but in comparison to buying a separate decoder etc it would be about the same.

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  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
I think the sound option is going to be the next phase of the RTR revolution for Aussie outline. Considering the US market has it readily available in all the big brands, it was only a matter of time before it began here. Problem is that it will add that extra $100+ per model but in comparison to buying a separate decoder etc it would be about the same.
Fairlight
Don't give the importers ideas Wink  No need to accept a (more like) $140 hike in prices for sound. Auscision sources a light board for every new Locomotive (except the 73 they tell me Smile )

If they go for sound that board is no longer necessary. perhaps little led boards for front and rear still required to hold the leds in place.

OEM sound boards which can do up to 6 functions with or without LED resistors, are very much cheaper than you and I can buy a sound decoder for.

With major price increases caused by the Banks profiteering on our dollar, and workers wages doubling every 5 years in China we can hope that to prevent undue resistance to these heavy increases, the importers might value add the price to make us feel better.

That's what every car manufacturer did when free trade agreements dropped prices recently. They filled the car up with extras and left the price alone.  No body is mentioning the effect on agreements with China either.
I see no difference in hiking the price and sugar coating it with "free" sound.

And that's where we should be talking them. No more defeatist talk here please Very Happy
Cheers
Rod Young
edit You did click on the blue line in my last post didnt you? Tsunami sound in Walthers engines for $40 extra that is US$139 Very Happy
edit 2 Could you think of paying $550 for an NR and $1250 for an R or a 38 RTR ?
If prices keep climbing at double and triple what wages are climbing, the market will quickly disappear and so will the importers. Its in all our interests to find a way to keep the market flowing. If our Government ever succeeds in removing penalty rates and overtime, lowering every working mans wages, increasing GST by 5% and removing the food exemptions, the genie will quickly leave the bottle and our model railway days will be behind us.
  Roachie Chief Commissioner

Location: Kadina SA (formerly NSW)
From what I have read on other forums, factory-fitted sound is usually a dumbed-down version of the respected company's decoder.

As an example, Tsunami decoders factory-fitted to some US diesels are renowned for lacking some key features and adjustability of various CVs etc. I have no first hand knowledge of this....just what I've read.

The one thing that I am sure about is that I will be sticking (as far as possible) to Tsunami decoders as my preferred brand. This is not so much a matter of "loving" Tsunamis, rather it is a case of not having to familiarise myself with the foibles of various other brands.

I have a brother who models Union Pacific. Despite my pleas, he insists on buying his new locos from the shop in Mittagong and gets ol' mate to fit decoders there. As a result he has a variety of decoders in locos and pressing a single button on the throttle won't always (rarely!!) achieve the same result with each loco. He has some with Loksound, some with Tsunami (factory fitted), some with Tsunamis that I've fitted for him and most recently, he was having issues with a loco that wouldn't do "the right thing".

I looked up the receipt for the loco and it said that a ESU decoder had been paid for and fitted. I didn't have all my info sheets with me (including what the various decoder brand numbers and version numbers were), so I brought that loco back to SA so I could try to reset the decoder on my computer (Decoderpro). Imagine my surprise when, after exhaustive investigations) I found out that the bloody decoder was from some mob called Uhlenbrok (or something like that???). Far-out I says to myself!!! I then had to look up their bloody website and try to work out what CVs to change to reset the decoder to factory defaults and then try to code-up the loco number again.

What a bloody nightmare!!! Too bad there isn't some standard settings in this DCC part of the hobby!!!

Rant over.

Roachie
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
BL info page added http://www.auscisionmodels.com.au/BL%20Class%20Locomotive.htm
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.


Livery mystery somewhat answered! Original info said "13 liveries..." while this one has 14 liveries. And does the "Ghan" + "I/P" cover new and old liveries? hmmm. Time will tell, at least I guessed right with black and grey liveries. And of course there's still the chance of unannounced limited edition liveries closer to delivery.
  Fairlight Station Master

Location: Always watching....
There are some other flyer type adverts also posted on FB.
That 3D rendering of the BL looks pretty sweet.....looks better than the Austrains one and its not even made yet!...and I am happy with my Austrains version!!

The comment of the second airfreighted shipment for FEB/MAR is a mystery - so far we know the L and 46 are arriving but whats the third item?
  GT46C-ACe Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
If you're quick you can try to guess the new freight wagon noted above and win an Auscision railer. details in the comments at https://www.facebook.com/136260326407914/photos/a.139185696115377.19445.136260326407914/916759685024637/?type=1
  GT46C-ACe Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
On the BL page there's no "no DCC/Sound" versions listed, would appear Auscision really is going DCC/Sound only on these new releases.
  wagrttn Locomotive Driver

Well then, if they are not going to give their customers a choice then I hope that the decoders (presumably Loksound Selects) are fully featured so that we don't get stuck with a hobbled version as alluded to in an earlier post.
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
Well then, if they are not going to give their customers a choice then I hope that the decoders (presumably Loksound Selects) are fully featured so that we don't get stuck with a hobbled version as alluded to in an earlier post.
wagrttn
Do they actually say that Selects are going to be used?
I think it was I that mentioned that Loksound had mounted a deliberate attempt to take over the OEM sound market, and a conversation developed around that.
Auscision would be able to use QSI and Sountraxx Tsunami as well as the Sellects and possibly the new WoW Diesel chips all in OEM versions.
Cheers
Rod
  FirstStopCentral Chief Train Controller

Whatever these decoders are going to be, I hope (for everyone's sake) that they can bring them in at $350 or so (maybe $325 earlybird discount).

If they are not offering a 'quiet option' then people are going to balk at $400 (or more) per loco...

I'm not that fussed about sound in locos, really doesn't 'do it for me', but I have purchased a few (steam) locos with sound as an easy way to get a decent DCC decoder, even if I end up turning the sound off.

The current crop of 21 pin locos are setting me back around $45 each for a (quality) non-sound decoder anyway, so being able to buy with it already installed and not having to disassemble a new loco is a bonus.


Paul
  FirstStopCentral Chief Train Controller

Auscision L Class now showing as 'available now' and can be added to ones 'cart' and purchased online at $295.

Paul
  sydneyshortnorth Train Controller

Location:
Auscision L Class now showing as 'available now' and can be added to ones 'cart' and purchased online at $295.

Paul
FirstStopCentral
46 Class also showing as "Available now" but not yet linked to the online Shopping Cart (6.15am)

Steve
  Fairlight Station Master

Location: Always watching....
I noticed the 46's were showing available but no word on their touchdown yet.
Airfreight wins everytime.
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
Whatever these decoders are going to be, I hope (for everyone's sake) that they can bring them in at $350 or so (maybe $325 earlybird discount).

If they are not offering a 'quiet option' then people are going to balk at $400 (or more) per loco...

I'm not that fussed about sound in locos, really doesn't 'do it for me', but I have purchased a few (steam) locos with sound as an easy way to get a decent DCC decoder, even if I end up turning the sound off.

The current crop of 21 pin locos are setting me back around $45 each for a (quality) non-sound decoder anyway, so being able to buy with it already installed and not having to disassemble a new loco is a bonus.


Paul
FirstStopCentral
Absolutely!! As I said earlier, the 20% wages increase every year for 5 years is going to lift prices as the manufactures will want to lift profits to match prices. However the sound option could be added at cost and sugar coat the price increases.  Aussie Dollar today is .7811 and is tipped to sit at close to .80 in 10 year projections, so that is going to impact as well. And don't forget that a good OEM sound chip replaces the light board and that reduces the cost by the cost of the light board which is designed anew for each new engine. That is a good savings. However for the first time our importers have to build their engines to match the sound boards and that will be great for modellers particularly if they use all 6 lighting functions (Select) which can see control of ditch lights, marker lights and correct tail lights or each off as required.
Happy to agree with you here, Paul.
Cheers
Rod Young
  5711 Assistant Commissioner
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
G Class page updated Smile

http://www.auscisionmodels.com.au/G%20Class%20Locomotive%20(Series%201).htm
5711
You have to give Auscision credit for doing amazing presentations. Until I saw this one I did not want another G. Now it looks like a couple might find their way home and a couple of Powerline rebuilds can be sold off. Well done.

Oh hope you guys noticed the 3D render was incorrect? The recessed foot holes are on the wrong end in this render.
the page is actually here
G Class (Series 1)

Cheers
Rod
  meh Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
They've just announced the JLX/NLJX vans including the NQRX and NKQX wagons.

  davesvline Chief Commissioner

Location: 1983-1998
They've just announced the JLX/NLJX vans including the NQRX and NKQX wagons.

meh
Well that answers what was "coming soon" on their rollingstock page.

Hopefully the "coming soon" on their loco page includes the 2-4 series G class, the C class, and 2nd/3rd series X class. Or perhaps, something someone else might want......... (One can only hope you know)

Regards
  Factory_Fill Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne VIC
Hopefully the "coming soon" on their loco page includes the 2-4 series G class, the C class, and 2nd/3rd series X class. Or perhaps, something someone else might want......... (One can only hope you know)

davesvline
Probably safe to assume those spots are reserved for the already announced NR and 48/830 locos.
  lkernan Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Looking at the G class page, how does an impact resistant windscreen get modeled?  
Thicker clear plastic or do they supply tiny bullet proof glass?
  FirstStopCentral Chief Train Controller

Looking at the G class page, how does an impact resistant windscreen get modeled?  
Thicker clear plastic or do they supply tiny bullet proof glass?
lkernan
They have a heavier windscreen surround / mounting.

Paul
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
Blog updates 16th (brochures), 19th (JLX) and 20th (spare parts).
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
Some sold out 45's have been located by Auscision, refer to https://www.facebook.com/pages/Auscision-Models/136260326407914 if you're after one.

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