Melbourne Airport SkyBus might be better than a rail link, says transport expert

 

News article: Melbourne Airport SkyBus might be better than a rail link, says transport expert

Melburnians who believe the city desperately needs a rail link to the airport should be careful what they wish for.

  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: North Haverbrook; where the monorail is king!
Of course, many people won't agree.  It would be too successful and defer the rail link that is an obsession with the media and many of the people who would never use it anyway.
DalyWaters
An argument that is equally applicable to a couple of other endlessly proposed Melbourne railway lines.

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  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
Prove me wrong.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
First thing that has to happen before a rail link will become on the agender will be the average journey time for sky bus will have to become longer than the proposed train journey time.

Opening a new train service that Is slower than the existing bus, will go down like a lead balloon with the media !
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
First thing that has to happen before a rail link will become on the agender will be the average journey time for sky bus will have to become longer than the proposed train journey time.

Opening a new train service that Is slower than the existing bus, will go down like a lead balloon with the media !
Nightfire
While agree that travel times will need to be comparable, I'm thinking more about traffic levels on the freeway than users of the Skybus service.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
All right then.

Although not strictly related to the airport, Melbourne has low PT usage because the service does not suit everyone's needs.

The image here is taken from a post on Daniel Bowen's blog, and the Transit Capacity and Quality of Service Manual, and states a number of reasons why a person may or may not make a journey on PT.

Of course, there are other reasons, such as the type of work they are involved in, or the desire to travel in privacy.

The evidence is out there, you just need to look for it.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
In case you haven't noticed, I am not thinking about what, but why.

Remember that both Brisbane and Sydney Airport charge a premium fare. I cannot say for sure whether this has a direct impact on patronage, but I am fairly certain it does. I also note Brisbane's Airtrain frequency is 30 minutes during off-peak - definitely not enough to get a decent usage.

Oh, and there is plenty of evidence out there to suggest a good frequency public transport service can reduce traffic volumes.

If I really wanted to, I could write a full essay on this. It is not hard to conduct further research.

EDIT: Oh, and I never said we needed the rail link now.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Disagree.  Rail would be far more frequent than the 479 bus will ever be.  And it would run earlier and later even if it wasn't 24/7.

And another thing - trains are generally better for carrying luggage on-board.
Carnot
No I agree with Daly Waters. Forget about Rail to the Airport from the city. The greatest need is improvements in Public Transport Northern and North Western Suburbs, where taxi drivers refuse fares because they are not large enough, and that means running more Bus Services from Airport West on the 478 and 479 and running later. The only way rail will get to the airport is by extending the 59 Tram to the Airport.

Michael

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