General QR CityTrain thread

 
  phil_48 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Wynnum North
Could be some more sleepless nights and maybe DEL action here as QR advises Mon to Thu from 2000 to 0600 earmarked for the next 4 weeks for maintenance from Lytton Junction to Manly.  I note the down line past us has been paint marked. There are still a few sections of wooden sleepers on both lines between those the places mentioned, with concrete sleepers still piled up between Wynnum and Wynnum Central from previous weekend closure.  So maybe concrete sleepering will be fully completed.

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  mb67 Junior Train Controller

Could be some more sleepless nights and maybe DEL action here as QR advises Mon to Thu from 2000 to 0600 earmarked for the next 4 weeks for maintenance from Lytton Junction to Manly. I note the down line past us has been paint marked. There are still a few sections of wooden sleepers on both lines between those the places mentioned, with concrete sleepers still piled up between Wynnum and Wynnum Central from previous weekend closure. So maybe concrete sleepering will be fully completed.
phil_48

Also note the embankement just prior to Lindum on the Down line is going to have some major works taken, with new drainage installation, erosion protection and sound barriers being installed.
  phil_48 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Wynnum North
Since the Cleveland line weekend closure only 10 days I noted not all concrete re sleepering had been completed on the Down line. The work stopped 100 metres short of Wynnum North platform, with wooden sleepers still from there through the platform up to the level crossing, plus a short section between Wynnum and Wynnum Central.

At 0115 this morning this was partially answered. 2362+2485H arrived and unloaded new rail ( which woke us all up ) outside the platform area most likely ready for the next weekend shut down which most likely will be in about 3 months. No new sleepers yet as these are usually delivered by truck.

Only a small amount of new rail was unloaded certainly not enough for the whole job. The rail through the platform is relatively new, dating at 2003. As I mentioned in an earlier post during the recent re sleepering, old track dating back to 1978 still remains at various locations, so maybe the new rails will join up to the newer ones.

As the train and crane worked toward Manly I heard more being off loaded, so that might be the gap past Wynnum soon to be fixed as well. When I go for my almost daily walks to Wynnum Central or Manly I will check out the rest of the area.

The consist returned about 40 minutes later this time with 2485H leading, most likely running round at Manly.
  phil_48 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Wynnum North
I have reported previously on the stupidity of some at Wynnum Central station but this morning's act could have ended in disaster. I always enter the rear car adjacent to the platform entrance so I see it all. 3 Qld Police ( not railway ) were waiting to board the Cleveland bound when a 20 something girl forced the gates and rain into their waiting arms. The police held up the train while she was fined, then they boarded. Shortly after my City bound train arrived and once again 2 females ( overseas uni students I think ) forced the gates and jumped onto my train without swiping their cards first. The next station was Wynnum and one of the girls opened the doors and went onto the platform to swipe her card and jumped back onto the train just as the doors were closing. She fell into the train with her leg stuck outside in the door. Pax dragged her inside just as the train started moving. Lucky her the police did not get onto that train
  phil_48 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Wynnum North
Cleveland line closure this weekend.  Locally, concrete sleepers piled at Wynnum North, Wynnum to Wynnum Central and slightly beyond towards Manly, plus new rail at Wynnum North possibly for the curve through the down line platform.
  phil_48 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Wynnum North
Went to City today on the 1104 ex Wynnum Nth.  As we passed Lytton Junction we were joined by  an empty wheat covered consist heading in the same direction hauled by 2335+2371.  At Lindum a Port bound uncovered coalie headed by 23xx+2346 was waiting in the UP suburban platform to cross the empty wheat.  Our SMU 239 then paralleled the empty wheat all the way to Morningside.  However the curves before and after Morningside which affect the long wheel based electrics and don't affect the DEL hauled consists as much, saw us drop way behind the empty wheat which beat us hands down to the flyover before Park Road.
  Chidda Bang Locomotive Driver

Location: Banned
What if Swanbank had trains we could run ippy line like this

Rosewood        1155    -       -       -       -       -
Thagoona        1159    -       -       -       -       -
Walloon         1203    -       -       -       -       -
Karrabin        1208    -       -       -       -       -
Wulkuraka       1211    -       -       1241    -       -
Thomas Street   1213    -       -       1243    -       -
Ipswich         1217    -       -       1247    -       -
East Ipswich    1219    -       -       1249    -       -
Booval          1222    -       -       1252    -       -
Swanbank        -       1223    -       -       1253    -
Raceview        -       1227    -       -       1257    -
Blackstone      -       1229    -       -       1259    -
Bundamba        1224    1232    -       1254    1302    -
Ebbw Vale       *       1234    -       *       1304    -
Dinmore         *       1236    -       *       1306    -
Riverview       *       1238    -       *       1308    -
Redbank         1229    1241    -       1259    1311    -
Goodna          1233    1244    -       1303    1314    -
Gailes          *       1247    -       *       1317    -
Wacol           *       1249    -       *       1319    -
S'field Central -       -       1256    -       -       1326
Springfield     -       -       1259    -       -       1329
Richlands       -       -       1305    -       -       1335
Darra           1241    1254    1309    1311    1324    1339
Oxley           *       1257    1312    *       1327    1342
Corinda         *       1300    1315    *       1330    1345
Sherwood        *       1302    1317    *       1332    1347
Graceville      *       1304    1319    *       1334    1349
Chelmer         *       1306    1321    *       1336    1351
Indooroopilly   1251    1308    1323    1321    1308    1353
Taringa        *       1310    1325    *       1340    1355
Toowong         *       1313    1328    *       1343    1358
Auchenflower    *       1315    1330    *       1345    1400
Milton          1256    1317    1332    1326    1347    1402
Roma Street     1259    1320    1335    1329    1350    1405
Central         1301    1322    1337    1331    1352    1407
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
What if Swanbank had trains we could run ippy line like this
Chidda Bang


Swanbank does have trains, they are run by QPSR. Smile
  locojoe67 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Gen X purgatory/urban Joh-land
Without a power station or coal trains, what future is there for the branch?

Will qpsr assume a lease and become track managers?
  mb67 Junior Train Controller

Went to City today on the 1104 ex Wynnum Nth.  As we passed Lytton Junction we were joined by  an empty wheat covered consist heading in the same direction hauled by 2335+2371.  At Lindum a Port bound uncovered coalie headed by 23xx+2346 was waiting in the UP suburban platform to cross the empty wheat.  Our SMU 239 then paralleled the empty wheat all the way to Morningside.  However the curves before and after Morningside which affect the long wheel based electrics and don't affect the DEL hauled consists as much, saw us drop way behind the empty wheat which beat us hands down to the flyover before Park Road.
phil_48
They've now approved 2800 Class intermodal freight to run per normal on the Up and Down Suburbans on the Cleveland line, which would have some close clearances surely.
  phil_48 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Wynnum North
Just  went  through a Cleveland line weekend closure with new concrete sleepers delivered at Wynnum North a week ago plus new rail just before Christmas.

Surprisingly, no work at all was carried out at Wynnum North, despite all the preparation of the last 2 weeks. Also my son reckoned the Translink website advised new bitumen on the platform, but nada.


Will have to wait another 4 months for the next closure. I hope some of the wooden sleepers on the down line through the platform last the distance, as it is quite noticeable ( last time I looked ) one spike has lifted about an inch from one of the sleepers on the curve
  phil_48 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Wynnum North
Checked out rail replaced over the weekend between Wynnum and Wynnum Central on the DOWN line. Pic shows a piece of rail made in 1964, so this piece has served from the steam days till now - 51 years. Other pieces I noted were dated 1969 and 1975. I recall this event as I reported in a series of articles in 2010 that I observed 1089 delivering ballast in the area prior to the introduction of DEL's.

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  phil_48 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Wynnum North
Problems at Wynnum North Monday night.

The 2204 City bound 6 car EMU service failed on the DOWN line on departure from Wynnum North. The nearby boom gates remained closed for 10 mins before being raised remotely.

The next UP line Cleveland service arrived at 2230 ( 6 late ) and continued on to Cleveland. The Guard on the failed service walked along the platform and advised the few pax to move to the UP platform.

At about 2250 the next City bound service ( due 2234 ) ran wrong road Manly to Lytton Junction/Lindum and collected the pax from the failed train.

Interestingly there were no further Cleveland UP line trains after the earlier mentioned one for well over an hour. At about 2345 a Cleveland bound service finally arrived but sat in the Up platform for about 20 mins alongside the failed EMU. Then after a couple of attempts the failed set finally powered up and left toward the City. My guess a technician ( or more than one ) arrived on that Cleveland train to help repair the failed one.

Then the Cleveland train departed closely followed by 2 more services only 3 minutes apart. Then finally another service ( the last scheduled one ) arrived another 10 minutes later. Meanwhile the last scheduled City service arrived about 20 minutes after the failed one finally left.

Hats to QR for maintaining these late night services that are not well patronized especially City bound services.
  phil_48 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Wynnum North
Cleveland line closure this weekend.  Here at Wynnum North new rail and concrete sleepers to be laid on DOWN line from 200 metres to the east through platform to Wynnum North Road level crossing.  Level crossing also being refurbished with road closures locally.  Work started on this about 0200 this morning.  Currently 2413+2414 sitting in platform heading ballast train.
  phil_48 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Wynnum North
The spoils train headed by 2413+2414 which has been in Wynnum North platform since about 0700 this morning and running wrong road has finally headed back towards the City at 1515.  The train extended from the City end of the platform almost back to the Glenora St ( Wynnum Rd ) level crossing, a distance of about 400 metres.

It appears the work being performed is a lot more involved than first thought.

For those not familiar with the area - Wynnum North platform ( 50 feet AMSL ) is at the headwaters of a small creek which has been piped underground for about 1.3km and joins Wynnum Creek about 1km upstream from its mouth into Moreton Bay.  Wynnum North Road at the City end of the platform ( this level xing also being refurbished this weekend ) is on a small ridge.  One side drains into Wynnum Creek as described, the other side drains into swamp land next to Lindum station ( 10 feet AMSL ), which eventually flows into Bulimba ( formerly Doboy ) Creek near its mouth and also into the Brisbane River.

Wynnum North platform is at the bottom of a long hill which drains into the Wynnum Creek tributary.  We live opposite this and have bad seepage problems.  In fact all the stumps on the station side of our house were replaced a few months ago and the house re levelled as its was slowly sinking with a few cracks in walls.

It  appears the track through the platform  is having similar problems.  The works to date have seen the rail cut at the overbridge and all ballast removed from there to Wynnum North Road xing.  It has been further dug out to a depth of about 6 feet and all spoil now removed.

Drainage piping is currently lying along the length of the DOWN platform and will be placed into the trench adjacent to the platform with a number of culverts added.  The water will be drained eastwards to a low point outside the station and then under tracks then into the underground drains into Wynnum Creek.

My guess is that trucks laden with base will back in from the Wynnum North Road xing to fill this trench after the piping is laid.  Whether or not these same trucks will supply the normal rail ballast as well, or the ballast train will return later tonight is yet to be determined.

Finally new rail ( the old rail only dating back to 2003 and probably excessively worn due to the 50km curve and numerous expresses it encounters daily ) and concrete sleepers which have been stacked outside the platform since November last year will be laid.  As work started this morning about 0200 and all this to be finished by tomorrow night in time for the Monday peak, means another sleepless night coming up.
  phil_48 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Wynnum North
The ballast question has been answered. As of 1730 trucks are delivering the ballast and piling it in the station carpark, for transfer to the track by heavy equipment.
  phil_48 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Wynnum North
Work continued throughout the night with new rail and concrete sleepers laid through the platform area. Work briefly ceased about 0400 after which ballast train returned with same locos as yesterday, 2413+2414.  Ballast laying completed about 0730, with train currently outside Wynnum station, locos facing Cleveland.  Track machines are now on the job replacing the short section of still wooden sleepers from the eastern end of Wynnum North platform out to about 150 metres.
  mb67 Junior Train Controller

Work continued throughout the night with new rail and concrete sleepers laid through the platform area. Work briefly ceased about 0400 after which ballast train returned with same locos as yesterday, 2413+2414.  Ballast laying completed about 0730, with train currently outside Wynnum station, locos facing Cleveland.  Track machines are now on the job replacing the short section of still wooden sleepers from the eastern end of Wynnum North platform out to about 150 metres.
phil_48
Someone's gonna get their smeg booted with that ballast train. Apparently when they went to run-around at Manly someone forgot to apply the handbrakes on the wagons and they rolled down and collided with the locos...
  phil_48 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Wynnum North
mb67 has most likely answered a question of mine.

I mentioned in my post that as well as the platform area work there was only a short 150 metres of wooden sleepers to replace to the east of the station.  After the ballast was laid the ballast train ( locos facing Cleveland ) advanced to just shy of the Glenora St xing and stayed there for some hours, while the track machines buzzed back and forth in the Wynnum North platform area.

I was unaware of the Manly incident until reading mb67's post this morning.  That probably answered why work at Wynnum North ground to a halt in the afternoon and the track machines eventually went home.  The road traffic controllers ( level xing still closed ) were standing around for hours doing very little, and I noted they were still there when I turned in for the night about 2300.  When I went for my morning walk this morning, that short wooded section was not completed despite the concrete sleepers still piled up, with some bed fill left over from the weekend still piled in the car park.
  mb67 Junior Train Controller

The ballast train consist was sitting parked on the angle at Thorneside when I drove past this afternoon.

By the looks of this photo I found, it has certainly hit with some force behind it.... Luckily no derailment or injuries have occured...

  phil_48 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Wynnum North
I think the ballast train was rescued in the early hours of yesterday ( Tuesday ) morning as I was woken by DEL's creeping past Wynnum North inbound about 0300.  By the time I got up they had gone so I am only guessing the above.
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
I have posted this here rather than create a new thread, especially as this thread is stickied. Mods feel free to split if considered desirable!


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  phil_48 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Wynnum North
As of 0945 Thursday  trains suspended in both directions between Lindum and Manly for at least 45 minutes due to a bridge strike on the 2.2 metre clearance bridge next to Wynnum station.  The next bridge along near Wynnum Central is even lower at 1.9 metres.
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
As of 0945 Thursday  trains suspended in both directions between Lindum and Manly for at least 45 minutes due to a bridge strike on the 2.2 metre clearance bridge next to Wynnum station.  The next bridge along near Wynnum Central is even lower at 1.9 metres.
phil_48
These super low bridges have been a problem for as long as I can remember...
  phil_48 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Wynnum North
The only local bridge that has been raised is the one near Lota station.  The others are 2.8m, 2.2m, 1.9m.

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