Deniliquin Turntable - up for grabs!!

 
  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
I suppose the way Victrack and PTV see it, it's not in Victoria, so why should they pay to keep it, when they can make money off loosing it. Still a shame though.
Gman_86
Nope. They simply see dollar signs through the sale of the land. Keeping the turntable operable is not in their core business, so it virtually doesn't exist to them. From memory, V/Line won't recognise Wycheproof turntable as part of their network, because it is not owned by them. I'd surmise that St Arnaud and Colac may be in the same boat. From what I gather, Ballarat East is out of use because Victrack don't want to spend money on getting it operable again, and won't allow anyone else to fund, or carry out it's repair.

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  JoppaJunction Chief Train Controller

Location: Banned
I suppose the way Victrack and PTV see it, it's not in Victoria, so why should they pay to keep it, when they can make money off loosing it. Still a shame though.
Gman_86

That is not a valid reason.  PTV and Victrack should be required to justify the remove of the turntable. They also have a positive community obligation.

Victrack could not find their smeg from their elbow.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
That is not a valid reason.  PTV and Victrack should be required to justify the remove of the turntable. They also have a positive community obligation.
JoppaJunction
This I a Victorian Government department managing disused assets outside the State of Victoria.

Very understandable that Victrack Is keen to sell unrequired land.

Deniliquin no longer has a connected passenger platform to serve tourist trains.
  JoppaJunction Chief Train Controller

Location: Banned
This I a Victorian Government department managing disused assets outside the State of Victoria.

Very understandable that Victrack Is keen to sell unrequired land.

Deniliquin no longer has a connected passenger platform to serve tourist trains.
Nightfire

That's not a valid reason
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
That's not a valid reason
JoppaJunction
Try convincing Victrack bean counters, that's It's not a valid reason !
  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
That is not a valid reason.  PTV and Victrack should be required to justify the remove of the turntable. They also have a positive community obligation.

Victrack could not find their smeg from their elbow.
JoppaJunction
No, it's simply you who is not understanding that Victrack are not in the business of maintaining such things. We're talking about land which they feel is surplus to requirement, and will sell whether you agree or not. The reality of the situation is that the turntable at Deniliquin hasn't been used since at least 2002, when I saw it last. It wasn't in good shape then, one of the rails leading to it having been rolled over.

I think the main thing that preservation groups should be worrying about is making sure the turntable, and associated parts don't go for scrap, as they could be moved elsewhere.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
What you also have to realise is that the Victorian powers-that-be, V Line or Vic Track or whatever it's called this week, does not give two hoots about heritage rail. The help that groups in Sydney receive is magnificent. By comparison, we get three fifths of five eighths of zilch. Another benefit of privatisation !
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
Nope. They simply see dollar signs through the sale of the land. Keeping the turntable operable is not in their core business, so it virtually doesn't exist to them. From memory, V/Line won't recognise Wycheproof turntable as part of their network, because it is not owned by them. I'd surmise that St Arnaud and Colac may be in the same boat. From what I gather, Ballarat East is out of use because Victrack don't want to spend money on getting it operable again, and won't allow anyone else to fund, or carry out it's repair.
Barrington Womble

Colac is in a slightly different situation, unlike Wycheproof and St Arnaud, Colac's turntable is completely isolated from the nework, ie:- the turntable road has been lifted and removed. Where as Wycheproof and St Arnaud, they are both connected (although with Wycheproof there is a rather large Peppercorn that needs a bit of a haircut before anything can access the turntable), it's only a matter of red tape and beuracratic busheizen*. That said, with the apparent attitude from the powers that be, red tape and beuracrats are probably just as much a barrier as the track being removed.



*busheizen is my own creation, it means what you think it means.
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
I have deleted stantheman's post and the reply from LancedDendrite. Thanks to  LancedDendrite for pointing out the issue. Stantheman's post was not acceptable, and was a classic 1st post from a anon. user. Have also deleted the post from another user which could have been a simple polite PM.

My apologies for posting near midnight with my original post. I wanted to act to prevent further discussion on the matter. I really should have left it until the morning and posted  according to other's wishes. Well it is morning and the post has been edited.


With the turntable, is it to be  scrapped or it it up for purchase ?
  SN7 Chief Commissioner

In reference to my initial post on this matter, information has been supplied in relation to the sale of land in Deniliquin,   It has has been cleared for sale , and the Deniliquin Council intend to purchase the land.  The sale process then involved a re use of the turntable by  the offering  of the turntable as a seperate sale through the EOI prior to the land sale,  so to clarify this,  The EOI  for the turntable will preserve the infrastructure.

There has been clearly a misunderstanding on my Behalf,  and I sincerely apologise to anyone offended by my previous posting on the subject.  



Sn7
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: Gheringhap Loop Autonomous Zone
By 'preserve the infrastructure' do you mean removal of the turntable from the site for use elsewhere, as opposed to scrapping it? Or do you mean leaving the turntable where it is?
  michaelgreenhill Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne
In reference to my initial post on this matter, information has been supplied in relation to the sale of land in Deniliquin,   It has has been cleared for sale , and the Deniliquin Council intend to purchase the land.  The sale process then involved a re use of the turntable by  the offering  of the turntable as a seperate sale through the EOI prior to the land sale,  so to clarify this,  The EOI  for the turntable will preserve the infrastructure.

There has been clearly a misunderstanding on my Behalf,  and I sincerely apologise to anyone offended by my previous posting on the subject.  



Sn7
SN7
So it sounds as if the land surrounding the turntable is being sold separately to the turntable bridge?

Is there scope for Victrack to keep the turntable approach connected, if both bridge and land end up bought by Deniliquin Council and everything left in-situ?
  hot-axle-box Junior Train Controller

The Deni turntable is heading to Moorooduc ! MRPS  also has the track on the whole block to remove by the end of july.
  QSB6.7 Chief Train Controller

Location: Going off the rails on a crazy train.
If true, this is better than it all going to China to be sent back as junk.
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
The Deni turntable is heading to Moorooduc ! MRPS also has the track on the whole block to remove by the end of july.
hot-axle-box
This is good news, nice to know it's being utilised somewhere, rather than being sold off as scrap metal.

Does anybody yet know if MRPS are planning on aquiring another turntable for Mornington? I'm sure there is at least one useable turntable out on the network somewhere that could be better used, Colac comes to mind, the turntable road has been completely lifted, yet the bridge itself seems to be not too far gone. Then again, govt red tape will likely prevent moves like this.
  hot-axle-box Junior Train Controller

If true, this is better than it all going to China to be sent back as junk.
QSB6.7
"if true" .......... is fact my friend !
  S301 Chief Train Controller

Location: South West Victorian Coast
In regards to Colac turntable, it is currently under restoration. As for the access track, not all of it has been lifted only the last little piece at the table end. Pretty sure the points are still connected to the main as well?
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
What work is being undertaken with the Colac turntable? Not to be overly cynical but 3 years ago I was there, the track had been removed, has anything changed since?

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