Picton East too Northcliffe Line

 
  perthmike Beginner

Just a quick question on this line
I Know that Pemberton tramway use it and Boyanup Preservation do run on it I think
But other than that does it get used at all
I see on google maps the line has surface rust pretty much from Picton east
Are there any plans to use it again

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  steamboy65 Train Controller

Location: Pemberton, Western Australia
the pemberton tramway use only a small bit of the line heading towards Northcliffe about 10 kays but Boyanup does not use any of the main line any as far as I know there are no plans to use the line ,the railway bridge at Bridgetown has a fence over the line at both ends also in Manjimup a section of line at the bottom end of town has been removed and the line between Manjimup and Northcliffe apart from the bit
used by the pemberton tramway is very overgrown and it is very hard to see the line in a lot of places.
  Kafoopsy Chief Commissioner

Location: Perth, WA
The line near Northcliffe has many large trees growing through the line now.  You would need to replace the cowcatcher of any loco with a circular saw to get through!

If you had squillions of dollars, imagine the amazing tourist line you could run on those rails!
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Here's what the Pemberton Tramway and the action section towards Northcliffe looks like at the moment...



https://youtu.be/v12xmgqlyuA
  perthmike Beginner

Thanks for the info
Who would i have to contact to use the line for using a pedal powered track car
  burt007 Chief Train Controller

Location: On the Road Somewhere...
Thanks for the info
Who would i have to contact to use the line for using a pedal powered track car
perthmike
Ummm unless you have full track accreditation for the pedal car, full insurance cover and permission from the rail owner I wouldn't even contemplate it...

sorry to be the "wet blanket" to your idea Smile but that's the reality of todays regulated environment.....
  perthmike Beginner

Ummm unless you have full track accreditation for the pedal car, full insurance cover and permission from the rail owner I wouldn't even contemplate it...

sorry to be the "wet blanket" to your idea Smile but that's the reality of todays regulated environment.....
burt007
Thanks for the info
  sam6778 Locomotive Driver

Location: Rockingham, WA
Was there any damage caused to the rail infrastructure on the line by the fires a few months ago?
Cheerss
  Wallip Chief Commissioner

Location: Perth
I had a report last week that a section of track in Manjamup has been completely removed by the council to push a rosd through from one side to the other.
  Bridgetown Beginner

Almost the 10th anniversary of the last train movement on this line. Extremely sad however I have a feeling that it may see some use again in the distant future.

Some of the infrastructure has been stolen and/or damaged. Several level crossing lights are now missing, and not replaced or repaired. There are trees across the track near Manjimup.

I did hear there was a length runner down here the other day, god knows what for...


Aaron.
  drwaddles In need of a breath mint

Location: Newcastle
10 years of no use and signage at the crossings is still as if it is an active line. Wonder why drivers get complacent around level crossings?
  antiussentiment Locomotive Driver

Location: perth
Anyone has at a guess as to how many trucks are hauling the wood chips now?
  62440 Chief Commissioner

There was a study on reopening the line done in 2001 after Labor got back in but the nature of the line did not lend itself to a decent passenger service and the freight potential was minimal. In reality there was no reason to reopen the line. There was still an occasional steam run from Pemberton and the trolleys ran to Northcliffe then. The track was still usable on the mineral sands line and the trackbed was intact to Busselton, which is big enough to justify a service. The trackbed beyond through Busselton has been lost.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Anyone has at a guess as to how many trucks are hauling the wood chips now?
antiussentiment

How many?

What was the purpose of needing Busselton?  Is there a useable port there?
  62440 Chief Commissioner

Busselton was passengers only, the population was over 50 000 probably more now, track to Picton is largely straight and capable of decent speeds. There was no hint of freight, though mineral sands at Capel could have resumed.
  Radzaarty Junior Train Controller

The track quality from Boyanup to Busselton is pretty shoddy from what I've heard. Pretty much one good sleeper every ten.
The other line from Picton through Donnybrook seems to be in much better nick.
  jayrail Assistant Commissioner

Location: te Anau Southern Alps NZ
Great moments in the memory of steam and RESO excursions, ran for several decades. Not to be sadly today.
Some of us still have photo records. ARHS was great to have anticipated  then that the current traffic would have reached this level, and ran  many members trains.1958 to late 20th century.Very few old lines were not forgotten then by  the organisation; assisted too by former members in  HVTR,they  all  saw opportunities.
  djukinX1016 Deputy Commissioner

Hi All
last time we were down Busselton way, the line had been lifted totally from Capel to Busselton (and it looked as though it had been lifted a fair time ago). I think part of the bypass road was built over a section.
  Kafoopsy Chief Commissioner

Location: Perth, WA
The track between Capel and Busselton was lifted years ago.  I can vaguely remember it being there when my family went to Busselton at Christmas time in the mid 1990s.  Many of the small bridges are still there.

I wonder if Busselton wishes that the railway line was still there?
  Mouse Chief Train Controller

Location:
Hi All
last time we were down Busselton way, the line had been lifted totally from Capel to Busselton (and it looked as though it had been lifted a fair time ago). I think part of the bypass road was built over a section.
djukinX1016
It would be been the duplication of the Bussell Highway (around 1999-2000) rather than the bypass itself - the railway followed the "old" Bussell Hwy to Causeway Rd alignment via what is now Koorden Place, with the eastern end of the bypass being slightly south of the old railway.
  Bulbous Assistant Commissioner

A rail alignment is in the process of being identified from Perth, through Bunbury and on to Busselton - mainly follwing the Forrest Highway north of Bunbury, and likely following the Bussel Highway south of Bunbury, although it may come down the existing rail alignment through Boyanup. Land is being procured for this corridor as it gets finalised, but this is in the very early stages.

Expect the rail line through the Manjimup town centre to be lifted within the next 24 months, as the council has decided that the rail line splits the town centre in half. The rail corridor will be developed into open space for the town centre, and the roads will be extended across the corridor to meet their other half. A western bypass of the Manjimup town site has been planned for, and this included allowance for a rail corridor as well, but don't expect a rail line to be laid during construction of this bypass (if ever). Unless the bauxite mines at Manjimup come on stream during the next ten years (or another suitable big load customer - the food processing facility doesn't count apparently), this will not be built.

The current best case scenario is that the rail line will be rebuilt through to Greenbushes on the existing alignment, but it is also possible that the status quo continues. The good news is that the planned heavy vehicle bypass through the old Bridgetown station site is being pushed aside for the alignment that follows the west side of the river past town. There is also a heavy vehicle bypass of the Boyanup town site to the west, and the interaction of the planned road with the rail corridors (Boyanup - Capel and Boyanup - Greenbushes) will show the future of these corridors.

MRWA and PTA are having interaction issues in the southwest at various places at the moment, with the PTA not appreciating MRWA building roads across the "services suspended" corridors and the rail-removed corridors. MRWA see the corridors as good low grade alignment options, and the PTA see the use of the land as detrimental to the future use as rail corridors. Should be some fun times ahead.

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