Fair enough, I wasn't exactly aiming that barb at your comment in particular though, more or less the general sense of superiority some people from further out have over those that hailing from the fringe suburbs. Whether it be people from Ballarat resenting having to share a train with people from Melton, or people from Castlemaine and Bendigo trying to get Sunbury passengers ejected from 'their train'. Pakenham passengers on Traralgon trains also cop grief. Again, not aiming anything at your specific comment, just a perceived attitude of ownership from certain passengers from certain areas.Looks like these passengers have been pleased by the new timetables. Sunbury and Pakenham will become restricted Metro stops.
Disappointing that there are no extra services on the Gippsland, Seymour and Bendigo corridors. Even more disappointing there are no extra services for Eaglehawk and Epsom, despite promises of alternating trains. What a waste of money the new station has proved to be...Very disappointed to see no new Echuca (and thus Epsom) services too. And they haven't increased the speed limit on the Echuca line either.
Noel Laidlaw, President of the Rail Revival Alliance, said today that the people of Maryborough had been sadly let down again. "in fact, after all of the talk about faster rail services into Melbourne with the completion of the 3.8 Billion Regional Fast Rail work, the morning train from Maryborough is seven minutes slower than what it was under the previous timetable."
Why did the new timetable not provide additional services into Maryborough?Because all the new rolling-stock is going into providing this 20-minute frequency for Geelong (and not much else).
Because all the new rolling-stock is going into providing this 20-minute frequency for Geelong (and not much else).
Eventually there might be more than one return service a day but not with the current round of changes.
Looks like these passengers have been pleased by the new timetables. Sunbury and Pakenham will become restricted Metro stops.Let see how many people still use the V/Line service after 21 June, there will be little notice to restrictions to the timetables.
Probably just as well given how crowded some of the peak V/Line services serving these stations can get.
Southern Cross 0500 0514 0600 0613 0625 0649 0710 0726 0750 0817 0830 0837 0910
Ardeer * 0532 * 0630 0642 * * 0744 * 0834 * 0854 *
Deer Park 0518 0535 0618 0633 0645 0707 0728 0747 0808 0837 0848 0857 0928
GOES TO WAPD WEND WAPD BALT WYVL WAPD SGEL BALT SGEL ARAT SGEL BMH SGEL
Southern Cross 0917 0937 0950 1017 1030 1037 1110 1117 1137 1150 1217 1230 1237
Ardeer 0934 0954 * 1034 * 1054 * 1134 1154 * 1234 * 1254
Deer Park 0937 0957 1008 1057 1048 1137 1128 1157 1237 1208 1257 1248 1254
GOES TO WEND BAMH SGEL BAMH SGEL WEND SGEL BAMH WEND SGEL ARAT SGEL BAMH
Southern Cross 1310 1317 1337 1350 1417 1430 1437 1510 1517 1537 1550 1604 1635
Ardeer * 1334 1354 * 1434 * 1454 * 1534 1554 * 1623 1654
Deer Park 1337 1337 1357 1408 1437 1448 1457 1528 1537 1557 1608 1626 1657
GOES TO SGEL WEND BAMH SGEL WEND SGEL BAMH SGEL WEND MELT SGEL BAMH BAMH
Southern Cross 1700 1719 1735 1759 1830 1850 1915 1932 2025 2125 2225
Ardeer 1717 1737 1752 1818 * * 1932 * 2042 2142 2242
Deer Park 1720 1740 1755 1821 1848 1908 1935 1951 2045 2145 2245
GOES TO BAMH BAMH BAMH BAMH WAPD SGEL WEND GEEL WEND WEND WEND
Southern Cross 2315 2335F 0015 0115F
Ardeer * 2352F * *
Deer Park 2333 2355F 0033 0133F
GOES TO WAPD WEND WAPD GEEL
WAPD = Waurn Ponds
WEND = Wendouree
BALT = Ballarat
WYVL = Wyndham Vale
SGEL = South Geelong
ARAT = Ararat
BAMH = Bacchus Marsh
MELT = Melton
GEEL = Geelong
F = Train operates on Friday night only
Legally conductors cant do anything to the person from boarding or leaving the service.They can however hold the train until the offender(s) alight from the service. This mostly just ends up in a stand-off, with every single person on the train just getting angry.
They can however hold the train until the offender(s) alight from the service. This mostly just ends up in a stand-off, with every single person on the train just getting angry.If you want to go down that path your could force them to buy a V/Line paper ticket which could cost the Metro fare plus $10 or something like that.
The best thing to do would be to apply an additional charge for passengers who take a vline service, though how that would or could be done I don't know.
Don is on the money when it comes to availability of rollingstock. My view is that V/Line - Government should have moved to a 30 minute frequency for the Geelong Line as part of a logical stategy for progressively improving services. For a roughly 80km long interurban corridor 30 minute frequencies still provide an attractive service that give off peak users plenty of options around which to meet a range of needs.
Going from hourly to every 20 minutes is an enormous ramp up in service even for a corridor that does have huge growth potential. But now at 20 minutes where do you next go from there 15 minutes or 10??? A 30 minute frequency improvement now then gives you options for growth going forward of moving to 20 or 15 overtime.
Thanks Don. I feel some rebound and screaming about to come from other areas around the state. Maryborough, Easglehawk and Echuca for starters.