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  kingfisher Chief Train Controller

Given the exhibition is on this weekend surely they know by now is they will have a running sample of the 2300 Class on display or not.

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http://www.southernrailmodels.com.au/article/8th-may-2015-l-class-update--brisbane-exhibition

FX's have been mailed, mine arrived today. Club Car exclusive pack comes with a numbered certificate.
Poath Junction

Did you say a "numbered certificate"? Wow!

Paul
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
Given the exhibition is on this weekend surely they know by now is they will have a running sample of the 2300 Class on display or not.
kingfisher
There have been a few instances of FedEx delivering packages with the latest samples to exhibitions on a Saturday.
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.

More 2300 samples at https://www.facebook.com/southernrailmodels/posts/488013141348677
  FirstStopCentral Chief Train Controller


More 2300 samples at https://www.facebook.com/southernrailmodels/posts/488013141348677
Poath Junction
Is that gap where the short nose joins on so you can see the interior cab detail?

Paul
  Draffa Chief Commissioner

Is that gap where the short nose joins on so you can see the interior cab detail?
FirstStopCentral
QR Standard aircon, isn't it? Very Happy
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.

Blog update - http://southernrail2013.admin.sitesuite.net.au/article/28th-may-2015-toowoomba--epping-exhibitions--project-update
Many L class sample pics, DFZ project cancelled.
  wagrttn Locomotive Driver

Well, SRM have been the recipient of quite a bit of criticism over some projects but, unless I have missed something, those L class look to be the equal of anything produced by other manufacturers. I'm very much looking forwards to receiving mine.

Not in SRM's favour is that Haskell will be offering L268 for $268 dollars.  Anybody who spent a total of $450 or whatever it was in order to purchase L268 from SRM must be feeling a little less excited.
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
Well, SRM have been the recipient of quite a bit of criticism over some projects but, unless I have missed something, those L class look to be the equal of anything produced by other manufacturers. I'm very much looking forwards to receiving mine.

Not in SRM's favour is that Haskell will be offering L268 for $268 dollars.  Anybody who spent a total of $450 or whatever it was in order to purchase L268 from SRM must be feeling a little less excited.
wagrttn
Nobody spent $450 to buy L268 from SRM. I spent $396 (including postage) and for that I am getting a 21pin sound decoder version with lots of 'bells and whistles' for controlling lights, etc. I could cancel my order and buy the Haskall non sound 8 pin DCC ready version for $268 but any savings will be quickly annihilated by a 8 pin sound decoder that doesn't have all the 'bells and whistles'.
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
Nobody spent $450 to buy L268 from SRM. I spent $396 (including postage) and for that I am getting a 21pin sound decoder version with lots of 'bells and whistles' for controlling lights, etc. I could cancel my order and buy the Haskall non sound 8 pin DCC ready version for $268 but any savings will be quickly annihilated by a 8 pin sound decoder that doesn't have all the 'bells and whistles'.
Poath Junction
I'll still be waiting until after delivery of said L classes to stores before considering buying a SRM L.


Also with the Haskell L you dont need to be a part of a club to order that L and he's only doing the WAGR versions (no ditchlights), so they don't need more than an 8 pin decoder on them anyway
  wagrttn Locomotive Driver

Nobody spent $450 to buy L268 from SRM...
Poath Junction


I may have my loco numbers confused, and perhaps I should have been more descriptive in my post, but the only way to purchase the SRM L class in the WAGR blue & white experimental livery is to join the Southern Spirit Club. For Western Australian modellers, who are unlikely to have an interest in any other SRM product, nor wearing their T-shirts, the cost of aquiring L268 was, from memory (original pricing) approximately $450.


EDIT

Poath Junction has pointed out that my figures probably misrepresent the SRM offer for L268 so I’ll express my point of view in another way.

In order to purchase L268 from SRM a $150 membership to their Club is required. Many modellers of West Australian railways interested in purchasing L268 have either chosen not to do so or have done so begrudgingly because they expect not to come close to recouping the value of the membership in discounted prices over the 12 month membership period. There is now an alternative source of L268 in model form and for many prospective purchasers the Haskell offering will work out to be much cheaper.

This isn’t intended to be SRM bashing and I have no reason to dislike the company. They made a commercial decision and I noted that there is now an alternative.


  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

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One would expect WA modellers would have been just as interested in other L class liveries offered by SRM, and those prices are also further discounted for the relevant Club Car members. As would the DFZ loco's which have now been cancelled due to lack of support from our western state modellers.  

One might argue I should have included my Club Car membership cost in my L268 purchase price noted above, however like many Club Car members I'm not in it just for the one off specials, my 'open to everyone' purchases that attract discounts more than outweigh the annualised $60 membership cost I pay. As I've said in previous comments in this thread, the Club Car Membership is not for everyone, but there are people who do make good use of it to save money.

Edit: the price of the SRM L268 is $300 (non sound) or $396 (sound). Other charges such as postage apply in some cases, and the SSCC membership fee and it's apportioned effect on the total cost varies on a case by case basis. There is no 'one price fits all' scenario.
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
One would expect WA modellers would have been just as interested in other L class liveries offered by SRM, and those prices are also further discounted for the relevant Club Car members. As would the DFZ loco's which have now been cancelled due to lack of support from our western state modellers.
Poath Junction
Well first off we've got to define the popular era to model. Since the DFZ conversions are recently newish in the perspective of eras, they might not do so well. You'll also note a lot of schemes match the ones that ran on the east coast including the 3 that ran in Vic in the 80's.

I'd have a guess at 1960-1990 being the popular era.

One might argue I should have included my Club Car membership cost in my L268 purchase price noted above, however like many Club Car members I'm not in it just for the one off specials, my 'open to everyone' purchases that attract discounts more than outweigh the annualised $60 membership cost I pay.
Poath Junction
You'd be one of two people I'd know that'd benefit from the option of joining the club car since you're going to buy a lot of things from them (with my planned purchases from SRM at the time this club was announced I had worked out I'd loose money on what I wanted. Suffice to say the V/locitys have dented my confidence in SRM, as have certain Austrain models dented my confidence in Austrains).

Plus, since the recent influx of models more pertaining to my taste and era I've now honed down my purchasing from whatever I want to things more relevant to the plan I actually roughly had. In the past 12 months I've purchased very little US and only a couple of interstate locos.
  DQ2004 Chief Commissioner

Location: Hobart -where the rain has lumps in it
Well, SRM have been the recipient of quite a bit of criticism over some projects but, unless I have missed something, those L class look to be the equal of anything produced by other manufacturers. I'm very much looking forwards to receiving mine.

Not in SRM's favour is that Haskell will be offering L268 for $268 dollars.  Anybody who spent a total of $450 or whatever it was in order to purchase L268 from SRM must be feeling a little less excited.
wagrttn
SRM's L268 was originally $260 (plus Southern Spirit Club Car membership). Given I knew that I would be purchasing other things from them, that was an easy decision.  For someone to say they only want L268 therefore the club is not worth doing, sure I guess that's true.  But how many people only buy one model from any manufacturer? (even I have bought more than one thing from Powerline - OK, only two things, but still).  I find it quite odd that people are attaching the entire membership cost to one model - if you don't like SRM then surely you wouldn't be buying anything from them anyway! And if it's neither here nor there, then you probably will. In which case the membership will give you a discount on every purchase you make! So far SRM have released models for Qld, NSW and Victoria, with the WA L coming of course - so the odds are that they'll be doing something that most people would want sooner or later.

Obviously the SRM L class has gone up in price, but then again, looking at the quality of the two models, as best as can be seen in the pics anyway, I'm not regretting my L class orders one bit.
Anyway, now you will be able to have L268 without joining a discount club ... to quote John Oliver; "whooptey-do"
  wagrttn Locomotive Driver

SRM's L268 was originally $260 (plus Southern Spirit Club Car membership). Given I knew that I would be purchasing other things from them, that was an easy decision.  For someone to say they only want L268 therefore the club is not worth doing, sure I guess that's true.  But how many people only buy one model from any manufacturer? (even I have bought more than one thing from Powerline - OK, only two things, but still).  I find it quite odd that people are attaching the entire membership cost to one model - if you don't like SRM then surely you wouldn't be buying anything from them anyway! And if it's neither here nor there, then you probably will. In which case the membership will give you a discount on every purchase you make! So far SRM have released models for Qld, NSW and Victoria, with the WA L coming of course - so the odds are that they'll be doing something that most people would want sooner or later.

Obviously the SRM L class has gone up in price, but then again, looking at the quality of the two models, as best as can be seen in the pics anyway, I'm not regretting my L class orders one bit.
Anyway, now you will be able to have L268 without joining a discount club ... to quote John Oliver; "whooptey-do"
DQ2004

Gee, I just thought I would say something nice about the samples because SRM seem to cop a bit of criticism (which I can't comment on having not yet obtained any of their products).

As for the merits of the SSC Club, well I think that the topic has previously been discussed to death. Each to their own. However, I think it was entirely appropriate to point out that L268 in the special livery will now be available from another company at a significantly cheaper cost. The requirement to join the SSC Club was not well received over here in the West. So, yes, whooptey-do!
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
SRM's L268 was originally $260 (plus Southern Spirit Club Car membership).
DQ2004
You're right, which means I only paid $348 for my sound version including delivery. The Southern Spirit Club Car just keeps saving me more and more money!
  FirstStopCentral Chief Train Controller

You're right, which means I only paid $348 for my sound version including delivery. The Southern Spirit Club Car just keeps saving me more and more money!
Poath Junction
You're continual brown-nosing is beginning to get a bit 'on-the-nose'.

There's plenty of people who want to justify their descisions whatever way they want even when a better deal comes along.

Paul
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
You're continual brown-nosing is beginning to get a bit 'on-the-nose'.

There's plenty of people who want to justify their descisions whatever way they want even when a better deal comes along.

Paul
FirstStopCentral
What better deal has come along? My SRM L268 with sound has cost ~$100 less than an equivalent spec L268 from Haskell. My other SRM L's that were purchased before the SSCC existed also work out at least $100 cheaper than equivalent spec L's from Haskell.
  GT46C-ACe Assistant Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
What if you only wanted L268 without sound (and that's it)? Do you save money going thru the whole Club Car deal or is the $268 price by Haskell the better offer? Not everyone may want to buy multiples....
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
What if you only wanted L268 without sound (and that's it)? Do you save money going thru the whole Club Car deal or is the $268 price by Haskell the better offer? Not everyone may want to buy multiples....
GT46C-ACe
Hence I've repeated ad-nauseam the benefits of SSCC membership need to be determined by an individuals circumstances, not what others have or haven't achieved with their purchasing patterns.

Assuming you have zero (or even slightly above zero) interest in other SRM products then it's almost a no-brainer*. Basically as at today it's $268 + any postage cost for Haskell's or $300 + SSCC membership + possibly postage for SRM's (gold members pay postage, platinum members get free post but may have higher overall fees). Clearly the total dollar cost for this scenario heavily favours the Haskell model.

*I said "almost a no-brainer" as there's a catch. You can order SRM's today and you know you won't miss out. You can't pre-order Haskell's** and as they've advised via facebook it's a limited run there may well be a stampede at release meaning many miss out on the model. I'm not saying that's a 100% sure thing, they might find there's little interest in the livery and be stuck with boxes of them for years that we'll then get for $150 as exhibition specials, in the processes upsetting those who paid $268. Wouldn't be the first time that's happened!

** Haskell are accepting 'expressions of interest'
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

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http://www.southernrailmodels.com.au/article/4th-june-2015--epping-exhibition--project-updates
Includes details of additional L class liveries added to the first run.
  FirstStopCentral Chief Train Controller

http://www.southernrailmodels.com.au/article/4th-june-2015--epping-exhibition--project-updates
Includes details of additional L class liveries added to the first run.
Poath Junction
Interesting what a bit of competition does...

Paul
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
Running sample of an L class can be seen at https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=500151446801513
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.


Blog update 12/8 - http://www.southernrailmodels.com.au/article/12th-august-2015-exhibition-updates
Covers 2300, L & V/locity rerun in lots of pretty colours.
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

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http://www.southernrailmodels.com.au/article/20th-august-2015-caulfield-special-offer-vlocity-2nd-run
V/locity order forms, discount offer.

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