TransVolution - New Operator

 
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Seems a new operator called TransVolution is planning on entering the BG freight market in Victoria.  Said to have a large number of TQXX coded wagons which were recently moved from Mcintyre to Bendigo Yard via Tottenham Yard.

Said they will be using two 700 class locomotives.

The company's website is down at the moment.

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  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: Gheringhap Loop Autonomous Zone
Last time I heard of Transvolution, 'Masked Fox Group' (a company associated with people involved at El Zorro) had leased Transvolution TQXF & TQYF container flats and taken delivery of them via the Port of Melbourne. That was last year.

Well then, here we go. TransVolution lists its address as 54 Albemarle St Williamstown North (also listed on Facebook here). Coincidentally, that's the same business address as a host of El Zorro-connected companies that were formed following its winding-up.

I'd wager there's a high probability that this 'new operator' is connected to El Zorro. That's as far as I'm willing to speculate.
  8077 Chief Train Controller

Location: Crossing the Rubicon
Last time I heard of Transvolution, 'Masked Fox Group' (a company associated with people involved at El Zorro) had leased Transvolution TQXF & TQYF container flats and taken delivery of them via the Port of Melbourne. That was last year.

Well then, here we go. TransVolution lists its address as 54 Albemarle St Williamstown North (also listed on Facebook here). Coincidentally, that's the same business address as a host of El Zorro-connected companies that were formed following its winding-up.

I'd wager there's a high probability that this 'new operator' is connected to El Zorro. That's as far as I'm willing to speculate.
LancedDendrite

Good detective work LD.  A quick search of google lists the the company having an office in Docklands.  Strange.

Anyhow the wagons must be for some reason and for some traffic.

The 700's seem a little weird but then again you get what you get and you don't get upset.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
My money is on 704 and 706 coming to Melbourne.
  Beta4Me Locomotive Driver

706 isn't operational, it's burned out. Last I heard it was being scrapped for GWA by Maverick Metals along with 186 wagons, 8 carriages and 8 locomotives. Dry Creek is practically rid of all BG and stored SG rollingstock now.
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: Gheringhap Loop Autonomous Zone
It seems that someone is watching this thread... When I made my previous post, the Transvolution's Facebook info page clearly listed 54 Albemarle St Williamstown North as its business address. I should've taken a screenshot - it changed in under 5 hours! Also had the founding date listed as August 23rd, 2013 - now it's 'Founded in 2013'.

Now, that's a quick change. Take that as you will. Still, that's spurred me on a little...

Still appears on Google, mind you:


Alright, here's some more proof: a quick ASIC search finds 11 companies registered under the 'Transvolution' name...



That's a lot of companies! I remember a similar outfit that also registered a bunch of companies with similar names...



Oh look - it's Masked Fox! And he's based in Willy North! I'd bet that actual address is 54A Albemarle St.



These ones are what the archaeologists would call 'transition fossils' - based in the Docklands, but under the mask... they're really Masked Fox!

Here's a full gallery of my investigations:
http://imgur.com/a/oUQvb

So we have a company that is quite clearly a rebadged Masked Fox starting up - and Masked Fox is most definitely connected to El Zorro. Interesting!
  Beta4Me Locomotive Driver

Interesting indeed. A LinkedIn search reveals a Masked Fox page at https://www.linkedin.com/company/masked-fox which suggests an acquisition by TransVolution. I recall reading a post to that effect on the MF Facebook, but that now redirects to TV... Whether one takes that at face value is another question, but it could explain the volume of corporate changes?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
706 isn't operational, it's burned out. Last I heard it was being scrapped for GWA by Maverick Metals along with 186 wagons, 8 carriages and 8 locomotives. Dry Creek is practically rid of all BG and stored SG rollingstock now.
Beta4Me

That is a shame and says a lot about GWA's commitment to Adelaide and South Australia.  186 wagons.

If not 706 then 704 ?

If this is Ray Evans again then I do hope he can get he right people around him this time.  He in my view is a very knowledgeable railway man.  Get some strong business leadership in there with him and it will work.
  Beta4Me Locomotive Driver

That is a shame and says a lot about GWA's commitment to Adelaide and South Australia.  186 wagons.
bevans

If the rumours that Brookfield will give a management contract to GWA to run PN if they successfully acquire Asciano are true that is a scary thought indeed!
  Carnot Minister for Railways

So are they purchasing or hiring these locomotives?  I would hope the former.  I also get the impression SSR would service them.

I hear that 831 and 843 locos might also be in the mix.  In any case it gets the rumor mill working overtime.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
So are they purchasing or hiring these locomotives?  I would hope the former.  I also get the impression SSR would service them.

I hear that 831 and 843 locos might also be in the mix.  In any case it gets the rumor mill working overtime.
Carnot

It will be great to see a smaller operator into the market again.

Why would SSR not looking at Victorian freight services?

The big question is what traffic are they intending to run?  Are they going after the Tocumwal traffic which is more than PN can handle or wants to handle or refuses to handle? There are other threads here which suggest there is a lot more traffic out of Tocumwal.

If you recall El Zorro were running to Tocumwal on opposite timetables to PN.
  K-Class Chief Train Controller

Location: Melbourne
That is a shame and says a lot about GWA's commitment to Adelaide and South Australia.  186 wagons.

bevans
The cutting up of wagons by GWA does not show a lack of commitment to SA, it is just the a fact of life. All rail companies at one point or another get rid of old outdated and obsolete locos and rolling stock.

The wagons cut up scrapped were stone hoppers for which they now is no customer, very old open wagons for which there is no requirements for open wagons anywhere in Australia any more a few old passenger/crew car wagons which GWA have had more recently converted and a number of wagons with structural defects.

The locos being cut up are clapped out GM's built in the 50's and 60's which have been out of use for a number of years. They and their surviving sister units are now able to be replaced by new fuel efficient high horse power locos (GWA's) being released from iron ore workings in the states north.

Why keep old scrap metal sitting around taking up track space in yards when it has had no requirements for years and no requirements into the foreseeable future.

Matt
  ab123 Chief Train Controller

That is a shame and says a lot about GWA's commitment to Adelaide and South Australia.  186 wagons.

If not 706 then 704 ?

If this is Ray Evans again then I do hope he can get he right people around him this time.  He in my view is a very knowledgeable railway man.  Get some strong business leadership in there with him and it will work.
bevans

I hope it fails before it even start! Look at the aftermath of his last efforts!
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
That is a shame and says a lot about GWA's commitment to Adelaide and South Australia.  186 wagons.

If not 706 then 704 ?

If this is Ray Evans again then I do hope he can get he right people around him this time.  He in my view is a very knowledgeable railway man.  Get some strong business leadership in there with him and it will work.

I hope it fails before it even start! Look at the aftermath of his last efforts!
ab123

In my professional opinion the issues faced by El Zorro were not Ray's understanding of railway networks or how to deliver rail freight they were more about how the business was governed.  I am not going to elaborate past that suffice to say I did meet with Ray several times and had a good understanding of the issues.  Especially the need to understand complex cost structures and how these costs impact customer contracts.

As I have said above.  Ray needs some good "supportive" management around him being the consummate entrepreneur.
  Beta4Me Locomotive Driver

I hope it fails before it even start! Look at the aftermath of his last efforts!
ab123
The Victorian Railways were subsided some $2B p.a. before privatisation. Sydney's Warratah Trains project (a PPP, i.e. public-private partnership) collapsed at the hands of Downer Rail and Hitachi with the government picking a $2.4B tab. Aurizon was underwritten ~$5B by the Queensland government in its IPO as QR National, The Wettenhalls and Wakefield groups have both 'gone broke' before and restructured/been sold off. Pacific National, Qube, Aurizon, SCT, SSR...they all have laid off many staff on many occasions, usually trains drivers.



So El Zorro was mismanaged, had debts and failed. Creditors lost money. Employees lost their jobs. smeg happens! It’s happened before (at the hands of others) and it will happen again. Demonise Ray Evans all you like, but realise the hypocrisy, especially when the totality of most employees’ entitlements were paid under FEG and Ray orchestrated almost all former employees getting new jobs.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
I take it you've spoken to the former employees Razz
  ssaunders Train Controller

The business failed because it was run poorly, it was put down as insolvent. Since El Zorro the labour hire business run by the same people has been well, ceased.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/metro-dumps-contract-with-transport-tycoon-accused-of-ripping-off-workers-20141118-11ogn8.html
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Meanwhile on a sunny beach somewhere in Spain..........Razz
  M636C Minister for Railways

Meanwhile on a sunny beach somewhere in Spain..........Razz
bingley hall

Did anyone get all the money or was it all just lost through incompetence....?

If he's still here and not on a beach in Spain isn't the latter more likely?

I understand the process is called "Phoenixing".
  M636C Minister for Railways

Sydney's Waratah Trains project (a PPP, i.e. public-private partnership) collapsed at the hands of Downer Rail and Hitachi with the government picking a $2.4B tab.
Beta4Me
What happened was the banks putting up the money for the PPP decided that the loans they agreed before the GFC were no longer viable in the changed financial situation. The government paid the money up front rather than paying the same or more to the PPP to use the trains over the life of the contract.
  BIG-BEAR Chief Train Controller

GWA have sold 704 , 831 , 841 to TransVolution .

This info was in the July edition of the Catch point magazine ( SA mag ) which turned up this week .

Which leaves 843 , 844 stored at dry creek and the only two loco's left on broad gauge in SA.

Their future unknown ?

Maybe they need them to rip up the broad gauge country lines no longer in use .
  Draffa Chief Commissioner

It seems that someone is watching this thread...
LancedDendrite
Better sleuthing than most of our so-called Journalists. Smile
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia


Maybe they need them to rip up the broad gauge country lines no longer in use .
BIG-BEAR

Yep. The very Australian that is.  Very rust belt.
  NSWGR8022 Deputy Commissioner

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
Rumours El Zorro ex Chief is part of the new venture.
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
Rumours El Zorro ex Chief is part of the new venture.
NSWGR8022
You haven't read this thread, have you? Wink

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