Hi all,
Has anyone ordered / received 42102 in Indian red without red lining? I am curious to know if it has a full yellow cab roof (as per 42106).
I never realised that 42106 had a full yellow roof until I saw the photo on the Auscision website.
Thanks & regards
Andrew

Good to see the Product Page and Order Forms for the V-Sets. And yes, in todays cost environment $595 pre-paid for a 4-car set is a bargain. Certainly will be placing an order for 2 sets later this year. Still amuses me though that 6 months (or more?) after the order forms for the 48 & 830s appeared we are still waiting for the Product Page for these two locos.

Tony

Suspect that the 48 announcement was a fine bit of opportunism by Auscision.  Given the long list of projects, I wouldnt be suprised if its fairly well down the bottom, given we haven't seen drawings, artwork or samples yet.  

Not that Im complaining.  I have one on order and am contemplating a 2nd.

Hi all,
Has anyone ordered / received 42102 in Indian red without red lining? I am curious to know if it has a full yellow cab roof (as per 42106).
I never realised that 42106 had a full yellow roof until I saw the photo on the Auscision website.
Thanks & regards
Andrew

Andrew, putting my memory cap on, & from that well worn covering, I tend to recollect that was the first move towards the austerity scheme.  The original paintesepecially the red lining had issues as it rubbed off very easily a reason many of them were seen without any of the wing red lining both around & through, the lines also came off from around the cab nose & sides also.

Good to see the Product Page and Order Forms for the V-Sets. And yes, in todays cost environment $595 pre-paid for a 4-car set is a bargain. Certainly will be placing an order for 2 sets later this year. Still amuses me though that 6 months (or more?) after the order forms for the 48 & 830s appeared we are still waiting for the Product Page for these two locos.

Tony

Suspect that the 48 announcement was a fine bit of opportunism by Auscision.  Given the long list of projects, I wouldnt be suprised if its fairly well down the bottom, given we haven't seen drawings, artwork or samples yet.  

Not that Im complaining.  I have one on order and am contemplating a 2nd.

Its what I've always assumed as well. At the time the whole announcement followed by the Order Forms seemed rushed. But I did expect the Product Pages to follow in due course in maybe a month or so - but over 6 months later and still nothing? And as with you it hasn't stopped me placing an order a couple of months ago for 4 x 48s to replace the last of my 15-20 year old PL 48s that I hadn't yet got around to re-motoring. But the point raised by Kingfisher is a good one for those interested in with/without buffers.

Tony

Still no NR page months after....

Received my 2 421s today and immediately removed the top off 42103 to start the process of hardwiring a Tsunami sound decoder.

I'm curious as to whether anybody has yet ascertained what the various lighting wires are? (ie: which is common/white marker/red marker etc). The main wires are all self explanatory, so if nobody knows then I will just wire-up the pick-ups, speaker and motor wires, then proceed to experiment with the lights. The only one that should be easy will be the rear headlight as it has 2 straightforward wires.

If anybody is interested, I will be giving-away the 2 standard boards in due course.......I strip-out the standard board and hardwire the Tsunami direct.

Roachie

Given the lack of responses I'm guessing that I might be the first person to have installed a TSU1000 decoder. I fiddled around with the wires and managed to work it out to operate MY way.

Probably won't suit the more fastidious modelers in our ranks because, although Auscision have gone that extra mile and separated the marker/numberboard lights from the headlights, I decided to just wire them up so that pressing "Headlight ON" would light-up all the white lights on one end as well as the red lights at the opposite end. Swap directions and the lights change (of course); same as the other end.

For the capacitor, I changed the wires to more flexible ones and ran them underneath the decoder (ie: I attached the new wires  to the underside after I drilled a 0.5mm hole where the solder tabs are for the cap to attach). I mounted the cap inside a short length of square Plastruct (they make a size that is a perfect fit for the Tsunami cap). This is shaped to fit the space, attached to a piece of flat styrene sheet so that the cap actually sits in the area above the front drive shaft, just ahead of the flywheel.....fits perfectly.

I know the purists will want to utilise the F5 and F6 buttons so that they can choose to have just the markers/numberboards on (without the headlights), but that is too much fiddling around for me when it comes to running my trains....although easy enough to do the initial wiring (or so I would expect).

The only useful info I can provide is to say that the light boards have their own resistors built in, so no need to add a 1K resistor to your wiring.

I guess most people will opt for the ESU 21 pin decoder, but I bought my Tsunamis from the states when the exchange rate was around $1.05, so I only paid around A$80- (landed) for the Tsunamis and I simply can't justify the $180- being asked for the authentic sound board from DCC Sound. I opted for the EMD645 which is wrong (I knew when I bought them), but sounds okay to me AND is different to the 2 Trainorama 42 class I have, which have EMD567 sound boards fitted.

Tomorrow I will do the 2nd 421; should be quicker and easier now that I know what to do.



Roachie

What about the O scale 45 class and the GL?

And the fish belly under frame wagons?

Or the RMX, Tait & Harris...

None of the 'missing product page' items have been released so there's no problem. The pages will arrive in time.

They're a 21 pin non sound TCS I bought from Ian at Hobbyand Australia at HornsbyNSW.  I've used them in my 46ers and 45s with great smooth running.  I will update to sound version when I get more time, $ and understanding.  I just wanted to get them up and running.  Beautiful models.  If they run as well as my 45s and 46ers I'll be a happy modeller.

Thanks NSWGRRules, with the 21 pin decoder do ALL the functions work (6 functions I think - ie. F & R headlights & directional Red & White markers)
Cheers

The installation of the TCS 21 pin decoder couldn't have been easier.  THANKS AUSCISION. ThI removed the body easily from the chassis, removed the dummy decoder (Green wire was tight across the top of the chip though), installed new decoder and put body back on.  Simple.  Allocated a running number 4213 (for 42103) and all perfect.  Directional lights etc work a treat.  Motor a little noisey but seemed to decrease with some running.

Auscision likes covering every single variation of everything they're doing except for the Vs it seems. Where are the original 1970s ones, the DCMs, DCTs, two variants of the DITs, two variants of the DJMs, DKMs, and DKTs?

Have been having a play with my new 421,s.Which are very nice.
BUT
The head light and marker lights on no 2 end work fine.
but no 1 end the head light is very dime and the marker lights no existent.
I removed the body shell (isn't that easy ) and the lights are working fine with the appropriate amount of light on both ends ,so it must be something to do with the light diffuser thingy that is stuck to the body shell not letting the light through to the right spot where the headlight and marker light hole is !
As this is the same on all 3 has anyone else got the same issue.
Thanks

Have been having a play with my new 421,s.Which are very nice.
BUT
The head light and marker lights on no 2 end work fine.
but no 1 end the head light is very dime and the marker lights no existent.
I removed the body shell (isn't that easy ) and the lights are working fine with the appropriate amount of light on both ends ,so it must be something to do with the light diffuser thingy that is stuck to the body shell not letting the light through to the right spot where the headlight and marker light hole is !
As this is the same on all 3 has anyone else got the same issue.
Thanks

No....my 2 are both working great, although I never tried them before removing the body.... (which I found VERY easy to do.....about 15 seconds or thereabouts)....in order to rip-out the original board and fit the Tsunami decoders.

Are you sure the body is 100% in the correct position? If it has allowed to rise a mm or 2 above the proper position on the chassis, then the LEDs won't line-up correctly with the "periscope" (my term) for the lighting outlets.

Roachie

According to their web page Auscision are doing 9 body versions of V set including Cam and Chopper versions, i guess some people are never happy. When they did E cars they didnt do BCE and with N cars didnt do S and Z cars so not really a precedent to not do every obscure derivative of a model. To do all versions of V sets would need alot more tooling and most likley make them much more expensive so im happy with whats on offer and the pricing is excellent.

Auscision likes covering every single variation of everything they're doing except for the Vs it seems. Where are the original 1970s ones, the DCMs, DCTs, two variants of the DITs, two variants of the DJMs, DKMs, and DKTs?

I've been hanging out for these since they were a simple CAD drawing teaser on the blog page, and particularly for the second series (1977) batch of cars. Although the earliest version Auscision are doing is the third batch of cars (1981) and it's pretty much out of the 1970's era that I model, they need to draw the line somewhere. Looking at the differences between the two, I can see why they didn't want to re-tool the ends for this headlight:



(Weston Langford photo - 04 Jan 1977, Central)

and went with this headlight instead, which all the subsequent versions had:


(Auscision Models photo - date unknown)

Still, my order is going in for the earliest version available in this run, in Blue Goose livery. Maybe if they get enough of a sell-out, they'll do the second batch at a later stage.

Cheers,
Ben

Not only is the headlight different on original V sets as shown in pictures posted above but also different side window arrangement and fluting is also different which would see a whole new car needing to be tooled.

Keener eyes than mine 2LaGrange - I didn't pick that up. Would definitely have spiked the cost of tooling.

Meh, it's still the only RTR V set around, and good value considering everything going into it and the exchange rate.

Looking forward to it running on the layout.

How do you know they may have just the same body for the different eras? How do you know that each version will have the same headlight, etc?

Remember, Auscision hasn't made them yet.

Edit: A correction needs to be made.

It should read, "Remember, Auscision samples haven't been made yet."

According to their web page Auscision are doing 9 body versions of V set including Cam and Chopper versions, i guess some people are never happy. When they did E cars they didnt do BCE and with N cars didnt do S and Z cars so not really a precedent to not do every obscure derivative of a model. To do all versions of V sets would need alot more tooling and most likley make them much more expensive so im happy with whats on offer and the pricing is excellent.

9 body variations means nothing. One variation can be that one has this pipe and the other doesn't feature a fletner vent. I see them producing every variation for locos like ditch lights and aerials and windows and doors so yes there is a precedent there. The DCMs and DCTs would require minimal changes from the DIMs and the DJMs variants would only be changes in the grilles, grille openings, and pantos. Very small changes for the scope of what Auscision normally covers so of course I'm disappointed because I remember riding these original ones back in the 70s. Correct that the original Vs (or Us) had a completely different body side and underframe but confused why at least the DCMs weren't done.

And the comment from Pete or whoever looks after their Facebook page is basically like 'tough, that's all we're doing whether you like it or not'. Cocky. Are we reaching that tipping point some gurus were predicting years ago?

No plans what you see is what we are doing.

Doesn't sound cocky, just to the point.

Well maybe you need to contact Auscision  Alltrainzfan and tell them how to do their job as you sound like you must know the market and how models are tooled better than Auscision obviously do.

Might I point out that the S and Z carriages of the former VR are in fact different from each other as well as being different from the N's so they would in fact have been different models rather than variations. I was hoping that Auscision or some other company (not bloody Powerline) might do at least the S cars to modern standards.

Iain

Without wanting my expectations to appear as being precious - I wonder if ceremonial headboards will be considered...?

Perhaps an email to the A-Team might be in order

Hahaha I love reading you guys quarrelling over 1^st world problems.

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