50 level crossings to be removed

 
  historian Deputy Commissioner

Frankston line update...

The last weekend saw a two day shut of North Road and the railway. The work again commenced on Friday afternoon with the closure of the westbound lane at North Road. Rail service continued, but the last two trains on Friday evening were replaced by busses.

The main work was the insertion of piles on the western side of North Road. These were largely under the Up line, which is why it had to be removed. The heads of the piles on the eastern side of North Road were excavated and forms erected to cast the actual abutment. I presume that concrete was poured into the forms before the whole lot was buried to reopen the road on Monday. From this, it would appear that the new lower level tracks will be moved some metres eastward through North Road.

At McKinnon the ramps and stairs to the closed subway on the eastern and western side of the line were largely removed. The area was back filled with the soil dug up during the piling at North Road. The actual subway itself still exists, together with centre ramp to the platform. Work was also carried out at both McKinnon and Centre Roads (Bentleigh) apparently relocating services.

Work was also carried out along the line. This appeared to be primarily work related to relocating the signal cabling from the Down side of the line to between the tracks. In addition, blue square tubes have been placed in the ballast between the Down and Centre lines south of McKinnon Rd. These appear to be foundations for safety fencing.

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  Dave-the-slave Station Master

Location: Epping, Victoria
Anyone have any ideas how they may do Reservoirs crossing?  That is going to be a pain to be done (and likely to do both BEL and RES crossings at same time I would think), as there is not a huge amount of room between High St/Spring St/Cheddar Rd.  Will cause huge disruptions though!— topher1976

I'll go out on a limb and say I don't believe that lowering the rail line is the way to go with either High St Reservoir or Bell St Bell.

With Bell St the rail line is just 1 of 4 impediments to traffic flow in that 1 km of Bell St. St Georges Rd, High St & Plenty Rd all add to the congestion. So what about a bridge, similar to the Adelaide urban Super way, to cross the 3 intersections and the rail crossing? I would imagine that a bridge would not be politically correct in that area but it seems to be the practical solution with less disruption to the trains at least. Could start east of the old PANCH and back to ground level west of St Georges Rd. Through traffic take the bridge and turning traffic stay at ground level. How much through traffic is caught up in that area?

As does raising the line at High St Reservoir. Could be built with only a small interruption in that area with the line and new station going over the current car park and the old station and line converted to a car park. Any way just a thought and I will crawl back into my hole now.
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
It would be unlikely that any crossing removals will see unsightly road flyovers and elevated railways in built up areas. These are not popular from a political standpoint, and often end up needing to be re-done properly in the future at a greater expense to the government purse. Road overpasses over rail lines are often seen as a 'great concrete barrier splitting communities in two'. The government seems to prefer the more expensive option when there is any notable benefit.

Reservoir can have the entire line put in a cutting and sunk under the High St/ Cheddar Rd/ Spring St intersection, there isn't a lot of spare room, and there will be lengthy disruptions during the works, but it will likely end up with a much neater intersection than the mess that is there at the moment.

Bell will be most likely sunk on the Western side of its current location, there is room, but it will likely see lengthy closures of the station, and the line. They may even opt to single the line either side of the works for the duration of construction, with both up and down trains sharing a short single track section of track around works. This will enable the construction to take over the space of the existing down line and platform 2.

At any rate, Bell and Reservoir haven't yet been announced, and are likely to be during the second tenure of the Andrews Government (remembering the 50 crossings are over an 8 year span) providing they manage to get re-elected.
  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
Even if they don't get re-elected, one would hope that any works started or in progress on election day would be continued to completion.
  damooops Junior Train Controller

Location: The Revenue Raising State
G'day all.
In regards to the St. Albans (Main Road) level crossing removal, is there any chance that the construction would include the foresight of a third line? Considering there was 3 platforms at St. Albans previously (Even though one was a terminating platform only) It would make sense to include this for the Benefit of increased Sunbury services and better timetabled Bendigo services.
Cheers all.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Will be two tracks only
  Crossover Train Controller

Location: St. Albans Victoria
Will be two tracks only
Nightfire
The new tracks and stations are being built on the western side of the existing lines and stations
there is not really enough space in this scenario to add a third track .
There is certainly sufficient space to extend the RRL tracks north past Albion station and junction them just prior to Furlong Road this would add significant flexibility but it would require an additional two track bridge over Andersons Road and the attendant costs that this would entail .
  topher1976 Train Controller

Location: Mill Park, Vic
Anyone have any ideas how they may do Reservoirs crossing?  That is going to be a pain to be done (and likely to do both BEL and RES crossings at same time I would think), as there is not a huge amount of room between High St/Spring St/Cheddar Rd.  Will cause huge disruptions though!— topher1976

I'll go out on a limb and say I don't believe that lowering the rail line is the way to go with either High St Reservoir or Bell St Bell.

With Bell St the rail line is just 1 of 4 impediments to traffic flow in that 1 km of Bell St. St Georges Rd, High St & Plenty Rd all add to the congestion. So what about a bridge, similar to the Adelaide urban Super way, to cross the 3 intersections and the rail crossing? I would imagine that a bridge would not be politically correct in that area but it seems to be the practical solution with less disruption to the trains at least. Could start east of the old PANCH and back to ground level west of St Georges Rd. Through traffic take the bridge and turning traffic stay at ground level. How much through traffic is caught up in that area?

As does raising the line at High St Reservoir. Could be built with only a small interruption in that area with the line and new station going over the current car park and the old station and line converted to a car park. Any way just a thought and I will crawl back into my hole now.
Dave-the-slave
It seems logical to have rail over road, but I doubt very much that will happen.  There are already existing plans somewhere (I cannot seem to find them unfortunately), where they had the station sunk and a tram interchange there.  Think there is the option of extending route 11 to Reservoir.
  jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

Location: Near Caulfield Station
More work being done on North Road this weekend. The crossing is closed to traffic, but trains are still running - although only to Moorabbin as there is work taking place for the Bayside Rail Project further south on the line. I travelled over the area last night and observed crews excavating to the tops of the piles they built last week on the Western side of the crossing. This is the area where they pulled up the track a few weeks ago. I think they are building the formwork for the new overpass over the tops of the piles. I believe this is similar to work that was done on the Eastern side a couple of weekends ago.
  jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

Location: Near Caulfield Station
The Premier has just announced the next four crossings to go:

Melton Highway, Sydenham
Abbott's Road, Dandenong South
Thompsons Road, Lyndhurst (to be delivered as part of the Thompsons Road duplication project)
Kororoit Creek Road, Williamstown North

Not exactly clear on the time frame on these next four, but I'm sure it will be in the next few years.

Work on eight more Frankston line crossings will begin in 2018 according to this release.

Media release: http://www.premier.vic.gov.au/a-year-of-getting-on-with-it-four-more-level-crossings-to-go/
  Crossover Train Controller

Location: St. Albans Victoria
The Premier has just announced the next four crossings to go:

Melton Highway, Sydenham
Abbott's Road, Dandenong South
Thompsons Road, Lyndhurst (to be delivered as part of the Thompsons Road duplication project)
Kororoit Creek Road, Williamstown North

Not exactly clear on the time frame on these next four, but I'm sure it will be in the next few years.

Work on eight more Frankston line crossings will begin in 2018 according to this release.

Media release: http://www.premier.vic.gov.au/a-year-of-getting-on-with-it-four-more-level-crossings-to-go/
Regarding the Melton Highway  Level Crossing at Sydenham
I wonder if this project will be Rail Over Road ?
The majority of these projects so far are Road Over Rail   But at this location there would seem to the room to do Rail Over Road  without much disruption to surrounding properties and two recent projects on this line ,; ie  Anderson`s Road and King`s Road are of this pattern .
  TOQ-1 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Power Trainger
Rail over Road would be the more consistent approach with the rest of the crossing on the Sunbury line, including Anderson Road, Taylors Road, Kings Road and the soon to be underway Main Road and Furlong Road.

The stabling at Watergardens which comes almost right up to the Road would also mean keeping the rail at the same level would be the easiest option rather than having to relocate or redo the access to that again.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
One thing Sydenham has Is plenty of room to slew both road lanes and rail tracks around without upsetting traffic flow for both road and rail.
  jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

Location: Near Caulfield Station
Rail over Road would be the more consistent approach with the rest of the crossing on the Sunbury line, including Anderson Road, Taylors Road, Kings Road and the soon to be underway Main Road and Furlong Road.

The stabling at Watergardens which comes almost right up to the Road would also mean keeping the rail at the same level would be the easiest option rather than having to relocate or redo the access to that again.
TOQ-1
From what has been said on news reports the removal of this crossing will also facilitate expansion of the Watergardens shopping centre. Not sure of that the plans are, but obviously removal of the crossing will result in much smoother traffic flow. The CEO of Watergardens Shopping Centre appeared to be very enthusiastic about plans to remove the crossing - maybe they might even foot some of the bill.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Is It likely the stableing siding will remain at Sydenham ? Or would they be consolidated Into the new mega depot at Caldar Park.
  I'm Barely Online Locomotive Fireman

Is It likely the stableing siding will remain at Sydenham ? Or would they be consolidated Into the new mega depot at Caldar Park.
Nightfire
I think the latter
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: North Haverbrook; where the monorail is king!
The CEO of Watergardens Shopping Centre appeared to be very enthusiastic about plans to remove the crossing - maybe they might even foot some of the bill.
jdekorte
If he's enthusiastic, it's because he won't be picking up the tab.
  historian Deputy Commissioner

Ormond - Bentleigh grade separation update...

As jdekorte said, the last weekend saw another shut of North Road. As was usual, the westbound lane was shut late Friday afternoon, with the whole crossing shut Sat/Sun. Trains continued to run. The effect of the 10 minute service on Saturday was very visible in the lengthy queue of cars waiting to cross at McKinnon Rd in the afternoon.

Work done was construction of the top of the abutments on the western side of the North Rd level crossing (the eastern side had been done the previous shut). The Up line was re-instated through North Road when the work was completed. There are still a couple of track machines (a tamper, ballast broom, and spreader) sitting in the Up platform at Ormond. The overhead needs a bit of work before the line can be used.

Incidentally, in addition to the work done during the rail shut the previous weekend (21 & 22/11), two new overhead structures were provided at McKinnon - one on the platform and the one to the immediate north. The new overhead structures have just one leg located between the Up and Centre lines. This leg supports the overhead over both the Up and Centre lines, together with two 22KV feeders, all at different distances from the leg. The bending moment on the single leg must be impressive. The overhead on the Down line still appears to be supported by the old portals.

About 18 car spaces at the eastern car park at Bentleigh have been barricaded off, so I'm expecting works to start at that station soon.
  lkernan Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
The Premier has just announced the next four crossings to go:
Abbott's Road, Dandenong South

jdekorte

Easiest one ever.  
Finish the bridge between Remington Drive and Pound Road West and reconfigure the Remington Drive / Abbotts Road intersection.
The amount of traffic around there of an afternoon is crazy for the area and it's only going to get worse with the new industrial estates going in around Jayco.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
The Premier has just announced the next four crossings to go:
Abbott's Road, Dandenong South

Easiest one ever.  
Finish the bridge between Remington Drive and Pound Road West and reconfigure the Remington Drive / Abbotts Road intersection.
lkernan
This should be an el cheapo grade separation job.

The abutments for the road overpass, should be able to be constructed well clear of the operating railway (greater than 3 metres) and It should just be a matter of a weekend rail shutdown where the bridge beams get lifted Into place.
  jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

Location: Near Caulfield Station
For those who follow the Level Crossing Removal Authority (LXRA) Facebook page, some great photos have been put up of the Burke Rd project. They show that the station is well on its way to being completed, and that track has been laid through the station platform area. Still a bit of digging to do on the eastern side of Burke Rd (Wills St), but the project seems to be advancing quickly.
  jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

Location: Near Caulfield Station
The Frankston line is again shut down this weekend from Caufleid to Mordialloc with a bustitution in place.  From what I can tell (after relying on bits of information), it seems from Monday the Platform 3 track will not be used, and trains will be switching to the Platform 1 (City) and Platform 2 (Frankston) tracks again.

According to this PTV works notice, the demolition of the McKinnon Platform 3 station building and platform will be commencing this weekend which is a sort of significant part of the works. I'll be travelling up and down the line on Monday so I'll be able to view what's taking place (and feeling a little nostalgic since I used that platform fairly regularly when I went to school at McKinnon High).

McKinnon: http://ptv.vic.gov.au/live-travel-updates/article/mon-2-nov-metropolitan-trains-frankston-line
  historian Deputy Commissioner

The Frankston line is again shut down this weekend from Caufleid to Mordialloc with a bustitution in place.  From what I can tell (after relying on bits of information), it seems from Monday the Platform 3 track will not be used, and trains will be switching to the Platform 1 (City) and Platform 2 (Frankston) tracks again.

According to this PTV works notice, the demolition of the McKinnon Platform 3 station building and platform will be commencing this weekend which is a sort of significant part of the works. I'll be travelling up and down the line on Monday so I'll be able to view what's taking place (and feeling a little nostalgic since I used that platform fairly regularly when I went to school at McKinnon High).

McKinnon: http://ptv.vic.gov.au/live-travel-updates/article/mon-2-nov-metropolitan-trains-frankston-line
jdekorte

The building on Platform 3 (the Down line) at McKinnon was demolished this morning. Amusingly, the Myki readers were ripped out yesterday and so they had three AOs in the PM peak acting as human Myki readers using their portable devices. The platform appears to be staying for the moment (although the occupation is only half over) - a light fence has been constructed along the platform edge.

The main work for this shutdown appears to be recommissioning the signalling for the Up line and moving the signalling equipment (cable runs, track circuit transmitters/receivers, relay cabinets) from the up and down cesses into the six foot. Ready, no doubt, for piling works.
  historian Deputy Commissioner

More details of the Ormond/McKinnon/Bentleigh works this weekend. Train services were suspended from the second last train on Friday night until Monday morning. All the level crossings were open.

The main work seemed to be 1) taking out of service the Down line, 2) signalling works, 3) overhead works, and 4) demolition works at McKinnon.

The Down line was taken out of use on Friday, and from Monday Down trains will use the Centre line and Up trains the Up line. Over the weekend a massive safety fence was constructed between the Down and Centre lines. It's about 2 metres tall with chain mesh. Interestingly, the signalling and overhead works did not abolish either the signalling or the overhead over the Down line. Indeed, the overhead was careful transferred to the new stanchions. This suggests to me that the Down line will be returned to use at some future stage.

The signalling work seemed to relocate signalling equipment out of the cesses (where it will be in the way of piling) into the 6 foot adjacent to the Centre line. The main job was to relocate the signalling cables, and this required running new cables everywhere and chopping up the old ones. Running cables has been going on for some weeks, and some of the old metal troughing was being removed on Friday. Other works involved relocating the track circuit transmitters and receivers from the cess, and, at Bentleigh, replacing the relay cabinets with new ones between the Centre and Up tracks.

More temporary overhead stanchions have been installed - one was installed immediately south of McKinnon Road. Most of the temporary stanchions appear to have just one leg - this supports a single horizontal beam which, in turn, supports three sets of overhead and two 22KV transmission lines. As you might image, this single leg is massive. This shutdown some of the old portal overhead structures were cut up and removed. This occurred just south of North Road, and just to the north of McKinnon, and possibly elsewhere.

At McKinnon, the Down platform was completely cleared - from the small station building, through the fencing, lighting, all the way down to the Myki readers. A light fence was erected on the platform edge, suggesting that the platform will not be removed in the immediate future. What appears to be a grouting rig has been operating behind the former Down platform. The Down station buildings at Ormond and (I think) Bentleigh have not been removed.

At Ormond, work has been continuing over the last three to four weeks on piling south of North Road. The piling started near Murray Road and has been working back towards North Road. The piling rig is now about 50 metres south of North Road.
  jdekorte Deputy Commissioner

Location: Near Caulfield Station
What's left of McKinnon Platform 3 (as of Monday).

http://vicsig.net/photo/20075

As Historian noted in his latest comprehensive update on this project, Platform 3 at McKinnon is in the process of being demolished. I passed through the area twice yesterday and saw the difference a day makes. The north end of the platform where it was on steel supports has been completely removed and a ballast ramp is now in place to allow construction vehicles access to the tracks. Yesterday afternoon there were numerous vehicles on the tracks, and earth has been dumped between the rails to support the trucks. The platform itself is in various states of demolition.

Interesting to note that there is now extensive work taking place along the whole corridor from Patterson to Glenhuntly with the most intense work taking place from just north of Ormond to south of Bentleigh. Fascinating to see all of this happening. I couldn't get a close look at Centre Rd but from the look of the surface an area where the piles will go looks like it has been dug up and resurfaced. Perhaps the piles were dug during the weekend shutdown.

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