Vince Graham appointed as a Director of ARTC

 
  SEMartin Chief Train Controller

Location: Canberra ACT
The Federal Government has announced today that Vince Graham has been appointed as a Director on the ARTC board. Pardon my cynicism, but there is no need to worry, Australian rail has been fixed now!

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  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Vince Graham was a disaster for National Rail.  The minister is obviously now positioning for the de scoping of ARTC's influence for a potential sale or float as Graham in my view has been a disaster for rail.
  michaelgreenhill Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne
How was Vince Graham a disaster for National Rail? Not being snarky, I genuinely have no idea.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
How was Vince Graham a disaster for National Rail? Not being snarky, I genuinely have no idea.
michaelgreenhill

Fair question.  Vince Graham introduced a policy of customer must come to us rather than we will collect wagons and freight for them.

The story goes (from sources involved at the time) VG did not want customer sidings or work in relation to LCL freight one of the reasons SCT where forced to move to FA away from their previously relationships.  The NR focus then became we will carry your freight in a container only and it must be delivered in a way we will take it at our location.

This was a defining moment for many customers on the network.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
If at all, it sounds like he messed up an above rail operating policy.  Im not sure how this would equate to a below rail operating policy?  Also, perhaps the strategy at the time was the right one to take, as the LCL (im assuming less than container loads), may have been too costly to handle and therefore may have incurred losses?

In this role, his interests are maximising profit from selling train paths, which can really only come from additional volumes.

Also, don't forget, there is a whole board there and an executive team there to help drive strategy, if he is as bad for rail as suggested, they should counterveil (or at least dilute) his influence.
  ParkesHub Chief Commissioner

Some bad smells just won't dissipate.
  gordon_s1942 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Tablelands of NSW
Vince Graham has been around long enough now for his CV to be well known so it would fair to suggest that he is wanted based on his previous history which presumably fits into the ideals of the Company/Board that has hired him, either that or they are grossly incompetent.

I once heard a similar claim made about a Railway District Superintendent who was wielding a sharp axe that he was acting beyond the instructions of 'Senior Management' which was nonsense as his position was an appointed one and he could be got rid of with the stroke of the pen anytime so he wasnt doing anything not previously approved.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Vincent i think also apent time in the electricity industry and certainly made a series of bizarre decisions which drove entire customer sectors off rail
And reduced rails long term addressable market.

@bevans is right about SCT which would not have found the need to run their own trains as national rail was shunting their facilities and delivering wagons for them.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
@bevans is right about SCT which would not have found the need to run their own trains as national rail was shunting their facilities and delivering wagons for them.
freightgate
Which may have done a great deal of good for the industry by spurring on competition no?

(And BTW, im not sticking up for VG or others in the past, just pointing out some counter points to see what your opinions are)
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Millions of tonnes of LCL freight was lost to road.
  1771D Junior Train Controller

Just as Lance Hockridge did with QR.  Jack prices up until unwanted customers simply go away.  It's coming back to bite now though isn't it Lance?
  ParkesHub Chief Commissioner

Just as Lance Hockridge did with QR.  Jack prices up until unwanted customers simply go away.  It's coming back to bite now though isn't it Lance?
1771D
Reminds me of when Linfox bought FCL Transport about 10 years ago. They went into the Adelaide branch on Grand Junction Road, Wingfield and closed down all the LCL freight virtually overnight by jacking up the rates skyhigh. Any customers refusing to accept the new rates were told to come and collect their freight and bugger off. Adelaide, then, was doing between 3 and 5 40/48'er reefers EACH DAY fully loaded with (mainly) wine & beer. That all went to nothing...zilch...zero. Then Linfox retrenches a bunch of people who suddenly had nothing to do. Eventually, Linfox Linehaul (previously FCL) was losing a million bucks a month.  Took them about 8 years to recover. True story...I was there.

VG is, in my opinion, cast in the same mould.
  gordon_s1942 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Tablelands of NSW
I know it might sound stupid but whats the chances they employ the Vince Grahams of the World with a brief to 'Hack, Slash and Decimate' what ever Industry it is for reasons you wouldnt think possible.
Say like the 'Railway' thats running down and needs serious upgrading which will take time and money that is simply not available but is a 'common carrier'  expected to 'deliver the Goods' but 'Constructively strives to destruct the business' by late running trains, no staff, decrepit infrastructure until it drives the customers away and it can then use that as an excuse to pursue other goals.
Geeez, the more I think about it makes me look at whats happened in NSW in the last 20 years...............
  Lockspike Deputy Commissioner

"Which may have done a great deal of good for the industry by spurring on competition no?"
james.au
Competition was certainly spurred on.
As others have ably indicated, in the push to become lean and mean in the new rail world a huge amount of freight was given away. The operators in other modes were pleased to pick up the extra work. Unproductive competition was created between the various players in the rail industry, whereas the competition needed to be between rail and the other modes.

This is all justified by the mantra to reduce costs, in doing so some private individuals have benefitted greatly, while governments' costs continue to rise...

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