Observations (Transperth, A & B series)

 
  thewaratahtrain Chief Train Controller

A series sets 11/48 made there way down to Mandurah tonight and are stabled there should form the first service back to the city in the morning due to the partial line closure, I got video of the journey and will post onto my YouTube tomorrow

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  thewaratahtrain Chief Train Controller



https://youtu.be/yrX2WLazjYg

A series sets 11/48 between Warnbro & Mandurah stations
  Mouse Chief Train Controller

Location:
Set 109 is now in service.

B sets are running specials today for Stereosonic.
  Mouse Chief Train Controller

Location:
Set 061 has been upgraded. Also, B sets will be running tonight (and probably for the next few nights?) on the Fremantle line to accommodate the Armadale and Midland line closures.
  witzendoz Junior Train Controller

Location: Fremantle
I spotted the B Sets running in and out of Freo last night and wondered what was going on, I think the first one arrived at about 9.30pm. Nice to see them in Freo, they do sound different when you are used to only the A sets.

Wished it was daytime, at about 10pm had a B series leaving the platform, another B series stopped at the signal to the station and CSR005 with a port bound freight waiting for the Perth bound train to clear, would have made a great photo.
  AvonLink Train Controller

Location: Kingsgrove NSW
Latest B Series EMU set 114, is making its way west on 4NY3 Through Glenfield Station around 12:56PM AEDST.. Should be in Kewdale in a few days time.
  witzendoz Junior Train Controller

Location: Fremantle
This may be the wrong thread if so sorry, the last signal before Fremantle station has a display for which road is set.  When the train is going into the main platform 1 it has "P" displayed, but when it's going into platform 3 (the bay platform) it has "D" why is it "D" and not "3" or "B" for bay? Where does "D" come from?  

I also wondered what is displayed when it's going into platform 2 which is in front of platform 1? This does not happen often so never seen it.
  steve_w_1990 Junior Train Controller

Location: Trying to fix something on the PTA Network
I'm open to correction, but I'm pretty sure the "D" on the route indicator going into platform 3 would probably stand for "Dock". For Trains entering platform 2 you would still get the same "P" on the route indicator, but instead of getting a yellow light going into the platform, you'd either get a shunt aspect if a train was already in the platform, or just a standard indication if the platform was empty. The route indicators just simply show what road is set, its up to the drivers individual work orders (P Workers I believe they're called) that tell them which platofrm to pull up at. The Route indicator signal just outside Armadale on the down either shows 1, or 2 (it possibly has an "L" indication for loop. but I have never seen the road set for the loop, nor a train in there) weather the train is terminating, going into the siding or it's the Australind going to Bunbury
  Mouse Chief Train Controller

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Set 111 is in service.
  Mouse Chief Train Controller

Location:
Set 112 is now in service, and 063 has been upgraded.
  Dd592 Beginner

I noticed today that live train times had the 5:05 K pattern from Elizabeth Quay (getting to Clarkson at 5:41) was a 4 car set. Is this a common occurrence? Are there any other services on the Joondalup Line still operated by the A series?
  Mouse Chief Train Controller

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Yes, that service is normally run by a 4 car A series train; the same train makes a few trips between Cockburn and Whitfords before finishing with the K pattern, but all other trips in the afternoon peak are run by the Bs. There are also some morning peak trips run by a single 4 car A set, finishing with the P pattern trip from Whitfords into Perth.

It's not the most friendly web page ever, but Transperth publish weekday train lengths at http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/Journey-Planner/Railcar-Allocation
  witzendoz Junior Train Controller

Location: Fremantle
The Transperth live train time page, which I find very useful, shows number of cars for each train so you can work out if it's a A set or B set. But it only shows the next 6 trains or so.  Good site if you need to know if you are running for the train or strolling for the train, mobile phone app available.

http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/Timetables/Live-Train-Times
  Northmetro Junior Train Controller

Set 113 running on Mandurah to Butler service yesterday in a 6 car formation
  Mouse Chief Train Controller

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The B's are running on the Fremantle line again in the evenings this week, but this time are being supplemented by a pair of 2-car A sets, presumably being the ones on the aforementioned 5:05 K pattern from Elizabeth Quay.
  Mouse Chief Train Controller

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I have noticed that two of the 3-car sets used during the peaks have been operating as 6 cars of late, leaving just one 3 car set in use on the Joondalup and Mandurah lines.

Does anyone know when the final A set workings on those lines will be replaced?
  Northmetro Junior Train Controller

Newest set I have seen in operation is 114. Final set of current deliveries should be 116. So only two more to come. I would hope this gives us 6 car trains throughout, but I'm assuming the rest of the original 31 still have to be converted for full compatibility. So this might delay return of the last A sets to other work.
  Mouse Chief Train Controller

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B sets are running to Thornlie today - no idea why.
  Northmetro Junior Train Controller

Bombardier have announced an order for 10 more B sets with delivery from 2019. Nothing from state government as of this morning!
  witzendoz Junior Train Controller

Location: Fremantle
A lot of "out of service" trains were turned back through Fremantle early this morning (Sunday), anyone know why this was going on?
  witzendoz Junior Train Controller

Location: Fremantle
Some 3 car B sets on the Fremantle line tonight?
  Mouse Chief Train Controller

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Most likely because the evening runs are using Perth Underground for a couple of weeks.
  witzendoz Junior Train Controller

Location: Fremantle
A set leaving Fremantle just departed on the wrong track, left Fremantle on the track from Perth, at slow speed heading towards crossover at north freo. Don't know what's up at this stage.

There was at least 1 other A set doing this, the next one to leave Fremantle.  Timetable showing a 1 min delay at North Fremantle for trains to Fremantle.
  steve_w_1990 Junior Train Controller

Location: Trying to fix something on the PTA Network
A set leaving Fremantle just departed on the wrong track, left Fremantle on the track from Perth, at slow speed heading towards crossover at north freo. Don't know what's up at this stage.

There was at least 1 other A set doing this, the next one to leave Fremantle.  Timetable showing a 1 min delay at North Fremantle for trains to Fremantle.
witzendoz
I'm not exactly sure of the points location at North Freo, but was there a container train stuck on the Down line to Perth? That may be the reason the train was sent out on the wrong road. Either that or points problems at North Quay may have been the reason that trains were running wrong road from Freo to North Freo
  witzendoz Junior Train Controller

Location: Fremantle
A set leaving Fremantle just departed on the wrong track, left Fremantle on the track from Perth, at slow speed heading towards crossover at north freo. Don't know what's up at this stage.

There was at least 1 other A set doing this, the next one to leave Fremantle.  Timetable showing a 1 min delay at North Fremantle for trains to Fremantle.
I'm not exactly sure of the points location at North Freo, but was there a container train stuck on the Down line to Perth? That may be the reason the train was sent out on the wrong road. Either that or points problems at North Quay may have been the reason that trains were running wrong road from Freo to North Freo
steve_w_1990
I could see from Freo station to the curve just before Tydeman Rd bridge and there was no train there, my guess was that there was a points failure at the Tydeman Rd junction or the container train leaving the port had an issue after it passed the signal at the Tydeman rd crossing which would have stopped the signal at the junction clearing.

Points location at North Freo is that there is a turn out just before the Bridge at Tydeman Rd into the harbour, and just up from there a crossover between the Freo to Perth lines, the crossover was a left over from the Leighton yard days and was electrified a while back to be used to keep the line running for passenger trains if there is a container train breakdown or the bridge is out of action, which has happened twice.

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