Flinders Street Station - Upgrade to Proceed as Originally Built

 
  TedHanson Junior Train Controller

Actually the new layout of the displays at the top of the escalators is particularly bad.
Departures are listed in platform order, so you are not a regular traveller, you have to read every line to find your train.
Oh and don't stop reading when you get to the first one you see because there could be an earlier train further down the list on a different platform.
It should be an alphabetical listing so only a quick scan is required.
Madjikthise
No, not in alphabetical order. That's what it was before. No other display in the world has them in alphabetical order. They need to be displayed by line so that short workings appear as well. The platform number is at least better than alphabetical. With alpha, people would gaze forever trying to find their train. For instance, if you were going to Oakleigh, the first alpha listing would be Cranbourne, but the next train could be Pakenham or perhaps Westall. The loop stations have it right, and FS should have the same design.

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  Madjikthise Assistant Commissioner

No, not in alphabetical order. That's what it was before. No other display in the world has them in alphabetical order. They need to be displayed by line so that short workings appear as well. The platform number is at least better than alphabetical. With alpha, people would gaze forever trying to find their train. For instance, if you were going to Oakleigh, the first alpha listing would be Cranbourne, but the next train could be Pakenham or perhaps Westall. The loop stations have it right, and FS should have the same design.
TedHanson
So you scan down for a Frankston train, see one on platform 6 and head down there thinking that's where Frankston trains depart from. But there is another one off 9 departing 15 mins earlier.
  Crossover Train Controller

Location: St. Albans Victoria
It is interesting and I think good to see that a new version of transparent rubbish bin are on all platforms at Flinders Street & I presume will be at all other City stations ?
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
"A roof will be built over the tracks at Flinders Street Station. The $10 million project is the third stage of the multi-million dollar redevelopment of the station area . . .
The Minister of Transport said building would start shortly.  He said the roof would protect rail commuters from the weather and the project would mean a total roofed area of 1.2 ha.  All platforms will be realigned to minimise the difference in levels between platforms and carriages. . . ."

Source?  Newsrail February 1985.
  splod Junior Train Controller

Location: Darwin, NT
"A roof will be built over the tracks at Flinders Street Station. The $10 million project  . . ."

Source?  Newsrail February 1985.
Valvegear

Well thank goodness for that last line.  I was wondering how we were going to get all that for only $10 Mil!
  Gwiwer Rt Hon Gentleman and Ghost of Oliver Bulleid

Location: Loitering in darkest Somewhere
Flinders Street is in need of urgent repairs and very large numbers of dollars.  Even those who pass through it occasionally comment upon how run down (derelict is a word sometimes used) it appears.  Those for whom it is a workplace and can see "behind the scenes" are all too keenly aware of the fact that if nothing is done very quickly the entire structure may be compromised to the point where it is beyond saving in its present form.

Noises coming from Spring Street need to be accompanied by action very swiftly and decisively and not in the form of a paint brush.  More like in the form of major structural repairs from the top down and a complete refit to make it fit for purpose and the number of passengers PTV and Metro are suggesting it may need to handle within five years.

It isn't possible to tunnel beneath the station due to the already-mentioned water course beneath Elizabeth Street so the existing subways are all that can be provided.  But additional routes to and from the platforms above track level are perfectly possible.

In my opinion a trick has also been missed in failing to restore platform 11 and replacing it with the Flinders Landing wine bars.  When PTV and Metro are bleating about a lack of platform capacity why do they then remove the option to re-create another through route?

Tack configuration can also be tackled to advantage to address the low approach and departure speeds which would also save significant, if modest, amounts of time but would increase capacity by perhaps another 5 trains per peak hour on the busiest tracks.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Flinders Street is in need of urgent repairs and very large numbers of dollars.  Even those who pass through it occasionally comment upon how run down (derelict is a word sometimes used) it appears.  Those for whom it is a workplace and can see "behind the scenes" are all too keenly aware of the fact that if nothing is done very quickly the entire structure may be compromised to the point where it is beyond saving in its present form.

Noises coming from Spring Street need to be accompanied by action very swiftly and decisively and not in the form of a paint brush.  More like in the form of major structural repairs from the top down and a complete refit to make it fit for purpose and the number of passengers PTV and Metro are suggesting it may need to handle within five years.

It isn't possible to tunnel beneath the station due to the already-mentioned water course beneath Elizabeth Street so the existing subways are all that can be provided.  But additional routes to and from the platforms above track level are perfectly possible.

In my opinion a trick has also been missed in failing to restore platform 11 and replacing it with the Flinders Landing wine bars.  When PTV and Metro are bleating about a lack of platform capacity why do they then remove the option to re-create another through route?

Track configuration can also be tackled to advantage to address the low approach and departure speeds which would also save significant, if modest, amounts of time but would increase capacity by perhaps another 5 trains per peak hour on the busiest tracks.
Gwiwer
$$$$$$$ from their mates.
Everything is either appearance or spin (or both).
To hell with what the public transport may need.
Agree with track configuration too - it's a goat track between Flinders Street and North Melbourne virtually all of which is relatively recent.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
Hi guys,

Found this on Twitter. Thought some of you might be interested:

  silvertrain80 Junior Train Controller

Location: stabled at newport
why dont they just demolish the milk dock their and build some sidings for trains awaiting service instead of running all the way down from epping or craigieburn. they not should of got rid of finders street yard sidings in my opinion
  Madjikthise Assistant Commissioner

Do people not have screens to look at what they type any more?
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Do people not have screens to look at what they type an more?
Majikthise
".. an more?"  Oops.
  Madjikthise Assistant Commissioner

Do people not have screens to look at what they type an more?
".. an more?"  Oops.
Valvegear
lol!
  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
As previously suggested, cleaning up the milk dock area should be a high priority in any renovation.  I don't know if it should be reinstated for rail use, or converted to a shopping precinct or whatever, but the present conglomeration of shabby verandahs and rusty & weedy tracks is an eyesore to say the least.  I know there is an asbestos problem, but that should not be insurmountable.

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