SCT workings WA and all over Australia

 
  1978Prime Junior Train Controller

Location: Perth
I went to the SCT rail depot today, that place is huge.

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  Wallip Chief Commissioner

Location: Perth
On Friday I had my first taste of Chinese.
Caught CSR007 at Fremantle port getting ready to pull #5144 back to Forrestfield. Unfortunately I didnt have enough time to chase it all the way.

Is SCT only running the 143/144 services, or also the 141/142 services?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/131051518@N07/19856687229
  8888 Chief Commissioner

Location: Shire of Mundaring
On Friday I had my first taste of Chinese.
Caught CSR007 at Fremantle port getting ready to pull #5144 back to Forrestfield. Unfortunately I didnt have enough time to chase it all the way.

Is SCT only running the 143/144 services, or also the 141/142 services?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/131051518@N07/19856687229
Wallip
141 and 142 still running, both in the darkness.
  Wallip Chief Commissioner

Location: Perth
Thanks 8888,

I was asking more if SCT were the operator for both services? This coming more from the curiosity of how are the lead shipments getting to the port and thinking they were the 141/142 services.
Does Aurizon still run a service to the port with the lead, or is it swapped from Aurizon to SCT at Forrestfield?

For anyone who cares, SCT are using a rack of CFCLA CQBY wagons for the service.

Cheers
  8888 Chief Commissioner

Location: Shire of Mundaring
Thanks 8888,

I was asking more if SCT were the operator for both services? This coming more from the curiosity of how are the lead shipments getting to the port and thinking they were the 141/142 services.
Does Aurizon still run a service to the port with the lead, or is it swapped from Aurizon to SCT at Forrestfield?

For anyone who cares, SCT are using a rack of CFCLA CQBY wagons for the service.

Cheers
Wallip
Yes Wallip, SCT operate these four services.

The lead has stopped at the moment with the mothballing of the mine.  Aurizon still operate the 195 / 196 services when required, conveying rare earth in containers which comes from Leonora way.  Also, there is the 148 / 191 shuttle from Kwinana which runs on week nights.

Simon
  Wallip Chief Commissioner

Location: Perth
Thanks for the info Simon.
I thought the lead was sorted and had resumed.
  Wallip Chief Commissioner

Location: Perth
CSR008 on Port duties today. CRS005 was on it last week.

There seems to be a regular rotation of loco's on this service, rather than just 1 or 2 being left in Perth to operate it.
  NSWGR8022 Chief Train Controller

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
Yesterday 3MA9 died at Callington with CSR009+CSR002+SCT001 and was later rescued by light engine movement D473S from Penfield with SCT013+SCT010+SCT003.

A D182S light engine movement returned to Penfield with SCT003+SCT010 seen at Callington.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Some questions regarding the Dooen and MP9/PM9 trains run by SCT.  Historical workings for this train have been exclusively Louvre vans between Perth/Melbourne.  Of late I have been seeing well wagons with containers on the trains.  Why the containers now on these trains?

I have also heard containers and louvres are heading west from Dooen is this correct?
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Some questions regarding the Dooen and MP9/PM9 trains run by SCT.  Historical workings for this train have been exclusively Louvre vans between Perth/Melbourne.  Of late I have been seeing well wagons with containers on the trains.  Why the containers now on these trains?

I have also heard containers and louvres are heading west from Dooen is this correct?
bevans
Containers have been carried on SCT services since the early 2000s at least. Can’t remember when they introduced well wagons on their services, but for at least the last 5 years ago, and quite probably longer.

I have asked SCT directly what is being carried form Dooen to Adelaide in containers, but couldn’t get an answer. My guess is that it’s just whatever it is they are exporting from Dooen that connects better with the shipping schedules in Adelaide.

This is a 2005 view

http://https://flic.kr/p/87c8Nt

This from 2006

https://flic.kr/p/86Jr41
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
A question what train do the containers from Dooen to Adelaide travel on is there an equivalent service to Adelaide as for Dooen to Swanston Dock?
  DalyWaters Chief Commissioner

Hay goes by container from Adelaide to Dooen for processing before export to China.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
A question what train do the containers from Dooen to Adelaide travel on is there an equivalent service to Adelaide as for Dooen to Swanston Dock?
x31
There is an occasional KA9/AK9 service as required and MP9/PM9 might shunt if required.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Hay goes by container from Adelaide to Dooen for processing before export to China.
DalyWaters
You may well have additional info that I don’t have, but that doesn’t make much sense. South Australia already has a compressed hay plant 100kms from Adelaide at Bowmans linked by a daily container train to Port Adelaide.

I can’t imagine it would be very economic to send hay four times the distance for processing and then transport it another 400kms for export.


Is it possible that locally grown hay around Dooen is processed there and then railed in containers to Adelaide and consolidated with loads from Bowmans for export from Port Adelaide?

Mind you, nothing surprises me these days.
  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
Purely a guess, but given the huge hike in container handling charges at Port of Melbourne, Port of Adeliade maybe a cheaper option noting that Port of Melbourne has already killed off the "liner" container service from Adelaide and the Visy Products business ex Harefield near Junee.
  DalyWaters Chief Commissioner

There is a AK train running from Adelaide to Dooen as we speak.  Just about to cross the border (at just before midnight on Tuesday, Victorian time).

It has loaded containers of hay.

It will return to Adelaide tomorrow without hay.

The hay will most likely go to Johnson Asahi's facility in Horsham for processing then go for export through Melbourne.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
There is a AK train running from Adelaide to Dooen as we speak.  Just about to cross the border (at just before midnight on Tuesday, Victorian time).

It has loaded containers of hay.

It will return to Adelaide tomorrow without hay.

The hay will most likely go to Johnson Asahi's facility in Horsham for processing then go for export through Melbourne.
DalyWaters
Thanks - Whoddathunk you could make money moving containers of hay around the country.
  Peter Station Staff

There is some interesting discussion about the hay exports from SA and Victoria in the transcript of the Port of Melbourne privatisation Select Committee:
http://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/images/stories/committees/pomsc/Transcripts/Corrected-Johnson_Asahi-27_October_2015.pdf
The witness is from Johnson Asahi.  Of note is the company's concern about getting empty 40-foot containers for export after General Motors closes in Adelaide.  He provides a range of insights into the rail operations.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
A question what train do the containers from Dooen to Adelaide travel on is there an equivalent service to Adelaide as for Dooen to Swanston Dock?
There is an occasional KA9/AK9 service as required and MP9/PM9 might shunt if required.
bingley hall

4KA9 ran today with CSR004 on the the point I now imagine the train is managed out of Adelaide rather than Melbourne in terms of locomotive rostering?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
There is an occasional KA9/AK9 service as required and MP9/PM9 might shunt if required.
bevans

Running again today with CSR002.
  DalyWaters Chief Commissioner

Shouldn't the previous 13 posts be moved on to the Operators section?  They have no relevance to the Western Australia section.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
T414 came into Melbourne this very morning on AM9 from Adelaide.

Seen at:

https://www.railpage.com.au/railcams/gheringhaploop3/photo/25535026364

and

https://www.railpage.com.au/railcams/gheringhaploop3/photo/26047324822
  BigTrain2015 Junior Train Controller

Amazing video online at Railpage showing the SCT train running over the adelaide hills at mount lofty. https://www.railpage.com.au/downloads?mode=download.view&id=1019

The train is traveling much slower than the PN and GWA services and the sound hints at a lot of power being used.  Are the SCT trains that much bigger than the PN trains?

This video too https://www.railpage.com.au/downloads?mode=download.view&id=1014 with the locos grinding through the platform.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
2MP9 had a crew car attached via Mount Lofty this morning.
  seb2351 Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
When did Mt Lofty move to WA?

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