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      1978Prime Junior Train Controller

    Location: Perth
    I went to the SCT rail depot today, that place is huge.
    Posted: 11 Jun 2012 20:09

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      Wallip Chief Commissioner

    Location: Perth
    On Friday I had my first taste of Chinese.
    Caught CSR007 at Fremantle port getting ready to pull #5144 back to Forrestfield. Unfortunately I didnt have enough time to chase it all the way.

    Is SCT only running the 143/144 services, or also the 141/142 services?

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/131051518@N07/19856687229
    Posted: 27 Jul 2015 13:59

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      8888 Chief Commissioner

    Location: Shire of Mundaring
    On Friday I had my first taste of Chinese.
    Caught CSR007 at Fremantle port getting ready to pull #5144 back to Forrestfield. Unfortunately I didnt have enough time to chase it all the way.

    Is SCT only running the 143/144 services, or also the 141/142 services?

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/131051518@N07/19856687229
    Wallip
    141 and 142 still running, both in the darkness.
    Posted: 28 Jul 2015 00:16
      Wallip Chief Commissioner

    Location: Perth
    Thanks 8888,

    I was asking more if SCT were the operator for both services? This coming more from the curiosity of how are the lead shipments getting to the port and thinking they were the 141/142 services.
    Does Aurizon still run a service to the port with the lead, or is it swapped from Aurizon to SCT at Forrestfield?

    For anyone who cares, SCT are using a rack of CFCLA CQBY wagons for the service.

    Cheers
    Posted: 28 Jul 2015 22:22
      8888 Chief Commissioner

    Location: Shire of Mundaring
    Thanks 8888,

    I was asking more if SCT were the operator for both services? This coming more from the curiosity of how are the lead shipments getting to the port and thinking they were the 141/142 services.
    Does Aurizon still run a service to the port with the lead, or is it swapped from Aurizon to SCT at Forrestfield?

    For anyone who cares, SCT are using a rack of CFCLA CQBY wagons for the service.

    Cheers
    Wallip
    Yes Wallip, SCT operate these four services.

    The lead has stopped at the moment with the mothballing of the mine.  Aurizon still operate the 195 / 196 services when required, conveying rare earth in containers which comes from Leonora way.  Also, there is the 148 / 191 shuttle from Kwinana which runs on week nights.

    Simon
    Posted: 29 Jul 2015 00:34
      Wallip Chief Commissioner

    Location: Perth
    Thanks for the info Simon.
    I thought the lead was sorted and had resumed.
    Posted: 30 Jul 2015 14:43
      Wallip Chief Commissioner

    Location: Perth
    CSR008 on Port duties today. CRS005 was on it last week.

    There seems to be a regular rotation of loco's on this service, rather than just 1 or 2 being left in Perth to operate it.
    Posted: 05 Oct 2015 14:19
      NSWGR8022 Deputy Commissioner

    Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
    Yesterday 3MA9 died at Callington with CSR009+CSR002+SCT001 and was later rescued by light engine movement D473S from Penfield with SCT013+SCT010+SCT003.

    A D182S light engine movement returned to Penfield with SCT003+SCT010 seen at Callington.
    Posted: 10 Dec 2015 16:56

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      bevans Site Admin

    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Some questions regarding the Dooen and MP9/PM9 trains run by SCT.  Historical workings for this train have been exclusively Louvre vans between Perth/Melbourne.  Of late I have been seeing well wagons with containers on the trains.  Why the containers now on these trains?

    I have also heard containers and louvres are heading west from Dooen is this correct?
    Posted: 11 Jan 2016 14:01
      bingley hall Minister for Railways

    Location: Last train to Skaville
    Some questions regarding the Dooen and MP9/PM9 trains run by SCT.  Historical workings for this train have been exclusively Louvre vans between Perth/Melbourne.  Of late I have been seeing well wagons with containers on the trains.  Why the containers now on these trains?

    I have also heard containers and louvres are heading west from Dooen is this correct?
    bevans
    Containers have been carried on SCT services since the early 2000s at least. Can’t remember when they introduced well wagons on their services, but for at least the last 5 years ago, and quite probably longer.

    I have asked SCT directly what is being carried form Dooen to Adelaide in containers, but couldn’t get an answer. My guess is that it’s just whatever it is they are exporting from Dooen that connects better with the shipping schedules in Adelaide.

    This is a 2005 view

    http://https://flic.kr/p/87c8Nt

    This from 2006

    https://flic.kr/p/86Jr41
    Posted: 11 Jan 2016 15:09

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      x31 Chief Commissioner

    Location: gallifrey
    A question what train do the containers from Dooen to Adelaide travel on is there an equivalent service to Adelaide as for Dooen to Swanston Dock?
    Posted: 11 Jan 2016 16:52
      DalyWaters Chief Commissioner

    Hay goes by container from Adelaide to Dooen for processing before export to China.
    Posted: 12 Jan 2016 00:39
      bingley hall Minister for Railways

    Location: Last train to Skaville
    A question what train do the containers from Dooen to Adelaide travel on is there an equivalent service to Adelaide as for Dooen to Swanston Dock?
    x31
    There is an occasional KA9/AK9 service as required and MP9/PM9 might shunt if required.
    Posted: 12 Jan 2016 00:57

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      bingley hall Minister for Railways

    Location: Last train to Skaville
    Hay goes by container from Adelaide to Dooen for processing before export to China.
    DalyWaters
    You may well have additional info that I don’t have, but that doesn’t make much sense. South Australia already has a compressed hay plant 100kms from Adelaide at Bowmans linked by a daily container train to Port Adelaide.

    I can’t imagine it would be very economic to send hay four times the distance for processing and then transport it another 400kms for export.


    Is it possible that locally grown hay around Dooen is processed there and then railed in containers to Adelaide and consolidated with loads from Bowmans for export from Port Adelaide?

    Mind you, nothing surprises me these days.
    Posted: 12 Jan 2016 01:05
      Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

    Location: Along the Line
    Purely a guess, but given the huge hike in container handling charges at Port of Melbourne, Port of Adeliade maybe a cheaper option noting that Port of Melbourne has already killed off the "liner" container service from Adelaide and the Visy Products business ex Harefield near Junee.
    Posted: 12 Jan 2016 15:18
      DalyWaters Chief Commissioner

    There is a AK train running from Adelaide to Dooen as we speak.  Just about to cross the border (at just before midnight on Tuesday, Victorian time).

    It has loaded containers of hay.

    It will return to Adelaide tomorrow without hay.

    The hay will most likely go to Johnson Asahi's facility in Horsham for processing then go for export through Melbourne.
    Posted: 12 Jan 2016 23:46
      bingley hall Minister for Railways

    Location: Last train to Skaville
    There is a AK train running from Adelaide to Dooen as we speak.  Just about to cross the border (at just before midnight on Tuesday, Victorian time).

    It has loaded containers of hay.

    It will return to Adelaide tomorrow without hay.

    The hay will most likely go to Johnson Asahi's facility in Horsham for processing then go for export through Melbourne.
    DalyWaters
    Thanks - Whoddathunk you could make money moving containers of hay around the country.
    Posted: 13 Jan 2016 01:04
      Peter Station Staff

    There is some interesting discussion about the hay exports from SA and Victoria in the transcript of the Port of Melbourne privatisation Select Committee:
    http://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/images/stories/committees/pomsc/Transcripts/Corrected-Johnson_Asahi-27_October_2015.pdf
    The witness is from Johnson Asahi.  Of note is the company's concern about getting empty 40-foot containers for export after General Motors closes in Adelaide.  He provides a range of insights into the rail operations.
    Posted: 13 Jan 2016 09:13
      bevans Site Admin

    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    A question what train do the containers from Dooen to Adelaide travel on is there an equivalent service to Adelaide as for Dooen to Swanston Dock?
    There is an occasional KA9/AK9 service as required and MP9/PM9 might shunt if required.
    bingley hall

    4KA9 ran today with CSR004 on the the point I now imagine the train is managed out of Adelaide rather than Melbourne in terms of locomotive rostering?
    Posted: 27 Jan 2016 13:23
      bevans Site Admin

    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    There is an occasional KA9/AK9 service as required and MP9/PM9 might shunt if required.
    bevans

    Running again today with CSR002.
    Posted: 10 Feb 2016 10:19
      DalyWaters Chief Commissioner

    Shouldn't the previous 13 posts be moved on to the Operators section?  They have no relevance to the Western Australia section.
    Posted: 10 Feb 2016 12:30
      bevans Site Admin

    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    T414 came into Melbourne this very morning on AM9 from Adelaide.

    Seen at:

    https://www.railpage.com.au/railcams/gheringhaploop3/photo/25535026364

    and

    https://www.railpage.com.au/railcams/gheringhaploop3/photo/26047324822
    Posted: 31 Mar 2016 17:42

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      BigTrain2015 Junior Train Controller

    Amazing video online at Railpage showing the SCT train running over the adelaide hills at mount lofty. https://www.railpage.com.au/downloads?mode=download.view&id=1019

    The train is traveling much slower than the PN and GWA services and the sound hints at a lot of power being used.  Are the SCT trains that much bigger than the PN trains?

    This video too https://www.railpage.com.au/downloads?mode=download.view&id=1014 with the locos grinding through the platform.
    Posted: 06 Aug 2016 19:41

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      bevans Site Admin

    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    2MP9 had a crew car attached via Mount Lofty this morning.
    Posted: 16 Aug 2016 12:11
      seb2351 Chief Commissioner

    Location: Sydney
    When did Mt Lofty move to WA?
    Posted: 16 Aug 2016 13:12

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