Location: MacDonald Park, SA
Should've built them without any crummy silencing equipment. Stuff the EPA!!!
New locos at UGL
greasyrhys
Chief Commissioner
Location: MacDonald Park, SA
bingley hall
Minister for Railways
Location: Last train to Skaville
Hi AllLooks like a packet of biscuits
There are a couple of pix of the new Crawfords loco on
my blog if anyone has not seen it yet. link
Regards Mathew Hughes
Poath Junction
Chief Commissioner
Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
PHC001 "Carrot" and PHC002 "Spud" went for a trial run today. Pictures surfacing in private groups, here's a publically accessible shot of the two loco's with CF4402 in between them.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/greggles3265/24950032080/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/greggles3265/24950032080/in/dateposted-public/
Junction box
Chief Commissioner
Location: newy
Not much to look at in the Hunter these days, C44, TT or 90.
Wallip
Chief Commissioner
Location: Perth
I have had a brief search, but just wondering where the PCH's fit serial number wise?
Cheers
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MaskedRailfan
Train Controller
Announced by UGL today that the PH37's have been purchased by PN, plus another 3 x 93 class. I assume the 93's
will be new builds.
will be new builds.
LancedDendrite
Chief Commissioner
Location: Gheringhap Loop Autonomous Zone
The press release is slightly more substantial than that:
UGL Limited (ASX: UGL) today announced that it has been awarded a $594 million agreement for the supply and maintenance of locomotives to Pacific National. UGL provides maintenance services to Pacific National across a number of their locomotive fleets and has entered into a long term arrangement for the maintenance of these locomotives encompassing:Interesting to see that PacNat is buying more 93 class locos despite the apparent surplus of motive power they have on SG. Perhaps they're looking at scrapping or selling off some more of their older locos? Or will this be to supplant motive power that they're currently leasing?Further to the long term maintenance agreement UGL has entered into a contract with PN for the supply of:
- Renewal of the agreement for maintenance of the 71 Class Siemens locomotives based in Nebo, Queensland for a period of 10 years to 30 June 2026.
- Extension of the existing maintenance contract for the 92/93 Class locomotives from 1 July 2020 to 30 June 2026.
- Extension of the existing maintenance contract for the NR Class locomotives from 1 February 2020 to 30 June 2026.
- A new contract to maintain the Victorian EMD locomotive fleet until 30 June 2026.
UGL CEO Ross Taylor said “We are very pleased to extend our long term relationship with Pacific National and look forward to working together over the next ten years in the provision of cost effective and efficient locomotive maintenance services.”
- Three C44ACi locomotives expanding PN’s existing 93 class fleet.
- Three PH37 narrow gauge locomotives, designed by UGL for freight haulage in Queensland.
EFB5800
Chief Train Controller
Location: On my office roof.
PN have been using a set of 3 CFs on Northern coal recently, though I haven't sighted them for a little while. Perhaps it's time to replace them.
EFB5800
Chief Train Controller
Location: On my office roof.
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/efb5800/30327631674/
'New' 93 at UGL Broadmeadow today. 93 in one number box , but nothing in the other side yet. The 2 primer painted C44s are both in the yard, no sign of the undercoated pair for a while now.
'New' 93 at UGL Broadmeadow today. 93 in one number box , but nothing in the other side yet. The 2 primer painted C44s are both in the yard, no sign of the undercoated pair for a while now.
DounutCereal
Chief Train Controller
Location: Who knows.
A photo has surfaced on the book of face of 9318 in full PN livery and looking pretty close to being delivered
Photo courtesy of Damien Butler:
And there's two of the Powerhauls sitting nearby still unlettered and without numbers, though they now appear to be sitting on their own bogies (photo from the same source):
I didn't know UGL had any 3' 6" track in their yard, either that or they've done some funky SG conversion on the new locos
Photo courtesy of Damien Butler:
And there's two of the Powerhauls sitting nearby still unlettered and without numbers, though they now appear to be sitting on their own bogies (photo from the same source):
I didn't know UGL had any 3' 6" track in their yard, either that or they've done some funky SG conversion on the new locos
nswtrains
Chief Commissioner
Thank you for posting the latest pics.The poster stated they appeared to be on their own NG bogies. If to be shipped by SG they would need a TOC waiver to run them on specially adapted 4 wheel SG freight bogies as they would have a fair axle load.
I had asked the question previously about 3'6" in Goninans yard and they have some leading to the paint shed if I remember correctly. If that ain't the track then maybe they are shipping / towing them on standard gauge bogies like Walkers does with WA's SMU's.
GT46C-ACe
Assistant Commissioner
Location: Sydney, NSW
4 axle bogies for a 120t locomotive?
M636C
Minister for Railways
Thank you for posting the latest pics.The track the UGLs are standing on id dual gauge.
I had asked the question previously about 3'6" in Goninans yard and they have some leading to the paint shed if I remember correctly. If that ain't the track then maybe they are shipping / towing them on standard gauge bogies like Walkers does with WA's SMU's.
It was used extensively to test the rebuilt 3700 class locomotives completed in Broadmeadow.
I have photos of the UGL units still grey being tested on those tracks. The surrounding fence is a real pain for photographs.
When shipped, the UGLs would be empty of fuel, sand and cooling water so would weigh less than 120 tonnes and would probably run on standard freight bogies. I'd expect that they'd be put on their own bogies at Acacia Ridge and set up at Moolabin, but that's just my guess.
M636C
Sulla1
Chief Commissioner
The most likely scenario will be these three locomotives being road hauled to Nebo or Partington (Townsville) depending on what depot they will be based at. Getting accreditation for a move on the ARTC network simply won't be worth the effort. There's no depot or staff in place at Moolabin to commission a new locomotive.
KRviator
Moderator
Location: Up the front
4 axle bogies for a 120t locomotive?At reduced speed, probably not above 60km/hr, 40 over certain bridges, similar to when the 90's run down to the wheel lathe.
GT46C-ACe
Assistant Commissioner
Location: Sydney, NSW
A 90 has 45t over one of these and a NR 12t so I'm pretty sure normal 3 axle bogies would be more than adequate to travel over ARTC trackage (especially if drained of fluids).
KRviator
Moderator
Location: Up the front
A 90 has 45t over one of these and a NR 12t so I'm pretty sure normal 3 axle bogies would be more than adequate to travel over ARTC trackage (especially if drained of fluids).The 90's and NR's are also designed to run on standard gauge with an axle loading of ~27 tonnes. If these were going to be fitted with freight bogies as they're narrow-gauge units, then they'll be running 30TAL, considerably higher than currently permitted for the DIRN, notwithstanding their lower live weights...
tazzer96
Deputy Commissioner
The NCL track could easily handle 30 TAL at reduced speeds. All the bridges are of pretty good quality so that won't be an issue. Only problem would be loops as most of these are of lighter quality and still on timber sleepers. So gloucester - qld border may need a free uniterupted run.
Just remember that what a track can actually hold is different to what they usually allow.
The ncl is 23 Tal so maintence is reduced and prolongs the life of everything. And less noise for those that live close to the line. It also takes into account up to 4 locos and a fully loaded train travelling past at track speed.
1x 82 class hauling 2 of these to acacia ridge shouldnt be any problem.
Just remember that what a track can actually hold is different to what they usually allow.
The ncl is 23 Tal so maintence is reduced and prolongs the life of everything. And less noise for those that live close to the line. It also takes into account up to 4 locos and a fully loaded train travelling past at track speed.
1x 82 class hauling 2 of these to acacia ridge shouldnt be any problem.
Graham4405
The Ghost of George Stephenson
Location: Dalby Qld
1x 82 class hauling 2 of these to acacia ridge shouldnt be any problem.Even if that is the case, it doesn't get them to Nebo or Partington to be provisioned for entering service...
Sulla1
Chief Commissioner
The PowerHauls will almost certainly be road hauled north from UGL, just like all 63 members of the 3700 class when they were rebuilt at the same UGL plant. Roadhauling non-comliant rollingstock is pretty much standard practice these days.
EFB5800
Chief Train Controller
Location: On my office roof.
UGL001 is decalled as PH001 and currently still at UGL. Still has UGL in the number boxes. It's a PH class!
Sulla1
Chief Commissioner
They may not be able to operate in Queensland as 001, 002 and 003 as the DTC authorities needed notth of Townsville and west to Mt Isa are not alphanumeric and will confuse these locos with PN 001 to 003 apparently. Another renumbering is likely it seems.
M636C
Minister for Railways
They may not be able to operate in Queensland as 001, 002 and 003 as the DTC authorities needed notth of Townsville and west to Mt Isa are not alphanumeric and will confuse these locos with PN 001 to 003 apparently. Another renumbering is likely it seems.I'd expect them to be used on coal traffic.
The classification is a sign of the "One PN" discussed recently.
Sulla1
Chief Commissioner
The current thinking remains that they will be allocated to Townsville to be close to UGL. Added to that the PH class allocation appears to be in line with PNQ and PN intermodal numbering, whereas all PN Bulk Division locos in Queensland have retained the ex-NSW four digit numbering system. Time will tell, but at the moment the numbering for the PHs does not appear to have been thought through for use in Queensland.
EFB5800
Chief Train Controller
Location: On my office roof.
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