X'traps on Frankston, Werribee, Williamstown lines

 
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The rumours about X'traps being unable to make the timetable especially on the Werribee line due to the computer problems they have seems to be pretty false. They can REALLY put the pedal to the metal, especially between Williams Landing and Hoppers Crossing [and vice versa]. I'm sure that's the fastest I've ever been on one of those anywhere
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
They couldn't keep to the timetable because they used to be restricted to 90km/h. Said restriction was removed a while ago prior to their first revenue run on the Werribee line.
  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
Is that a blanket removal, or are they still restricted on other lines?  What is/was the reason for the restriction?
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
Braking curve was out of spec when tested over 100km/h. Of course, if you are going to hit something at 115km/h with no way to avoid it, it won't make a lick of difference if the train was still doing 104 at the point of impact when it should have only been doing 102 with the brakes on full emergency! The Comeng vs. truck incident at Dandenong proves that.
  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
Thanks, but with respect, you did not answer the question:  is it a blanket removal, or are they still speed restricted on other lines?

And the reason for the (possibly partial) removal:  has the problem been fixed, or does it not matter any more (on some lines)?
  Madjikthise Deputy Commissioner

The trains have not had any modifications. Metro simply put out a circular saying the restriction has been removed.
  Kerpal Deputy Commissioner

Haven't seen one running out to Werribee yet. Are there any regular services usually operated by Xtraps?
  Camster Chief Commissioner

Location: Geelong
Haven't seen one running out to Werribee yet. Are there any regular services usually operated by Xtraps?
Kerpal
When my Geelong train recently ran via Werribee, what should be there but an Xtrap. I don't know how to post photos on Railpage, sorry.
  trainbrain Chief Commissioner

wonders  will never cease , an X trap train
  Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

Location:
I rode an X'Trap from Werribee to Southern Cross today.
I was a bit too excited to try to check our speed before Williams Landing, but, while looking out for kilometre posts and using my stopwatch I think we travelled at 120km/h for over 7km along the express route.


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  Chrono Detector Assistant Commissioner

Location: Tram 57/59
How frequent are X-Traps on the Cross city circle group? Haven't really had time to observe X-Traps on this group yet but it appears they aren't as frequent on the former original Connex lines.
  Camster Chief Commissioner

Location: Geelong
wonders  will never cease , an X trap train
trainbrain
When using the Clifton Hill loop from Southern back to Flagstaff, weekdays for about 6 months, I don't recall riding in a Comeng Smile
  Camster Chief Commissioner

Location: Geelong
I rode an X'Trap from Werribee to Southern Cross today.
I was a bit too excited to try to check our speed before Williams Landing, but, while looking out for kilometre posts and using my stopwatch I think we travelled at 120km/h for over 7km along the express route.


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Gauntlet
I've used my stopwatch between Km posts before. I think my train (a V'lo) covered a KM in 25 seconds. That is fast. I had a speedo on my old phone. It didn't really work in V'los but it did in Xtraps. I think about 90 was the fastest I've travelled in an Xtrap. I can't imagine it was too comfortable going 120 on the Werribee line.
  Bullucked Assistant Commissioner

Has the world ended and the sky fallen in?
It was a blanket removal of the 90klm maximum. If anyone's really keen you may experience 95 up or down the hill between Holmesglen and Jordanville.
  Camster Chief Commissioner

Location: Geelong
Has the world ended and the sky fallen in?
It was a blanket removal of the 90klm maximum. If anyone's really keen you may experience 95 up or down the hill between Holmesglen and Jordanville.
Bullucked
The trains have not been modified so the ride would not be too comfortable at high speeds but I can't imagine that 95 would be much worse than 90.
  alstom_888m Chief Commissioner

Location:
I've used a GPS to clock an X'Trap on the Werribee line. For one second it maxed out at 118 but that was going under a bridge. Seemed to sit at 114. Ride was bad but not as terrible as I expected it to be, not too different to a H set on the same set of tracks (pre-RRL of course).

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