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      don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: Adelaide proud
    Ah, it's just Bing - he's passionate.

    Back to the main topic at hand - did anyone see that Malcolm finally found a position on the cut in penalty rates for retail and hospitality? He's supportive of it now. Good to see that the wheel of fortune has finally settled on a number... a bit like Johnny Howard, he sees which way the wind is blowing first before he decides. He doesn't do it as well as Johnny did though - he had it down to a fine art.
    Posted: 17 Mar 2017 19:43

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      don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: Adelaide proud
    At the last federal election, 23 percent of voters did not give a major party first preference, which was a record high in the last 60 years. This is set to exceed 25 or possibly 30 percent at the next election (Fairfax):

    The 25 per cent threshhold has been broken through three times since Federation.

    Each was followed by massive political dislocation with political fault lines shifting and major parties crashing to oblivion, rising out of the ashes or embracing platforms espoused by new minor parties.
    Posted: 19 Mar 2017 11:26
      1771D Junior Train Controller

    Labor would absolutely smash the LNP if they weren't positioned so far to the left.  Their obsession with minority causes/identity politics has resulted in a massive disconnect from their traditional working class voter base, as has the continued over-representation of the unions in their power base.  If they could re-align themselves more with the needs of everyday people and drop their green left ideological idiocy, they would be almost unbeatable, I believe.  The LNP on the other hand, are a complete rabble, with a headless chicken as their leader, and unfortunately, our leader as well.
    Posted: 19 Mar 2017 11:49
      Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Norda Fittazroy
    To add to the current stupidity, we have Dutton railing against Alan Joyce, and many others in industry, for pushing hard in favour of gay marriage. He accuses Joyce of using Qantas' money to do so. It may have escaped his notice that Joyce has more than enough folding stuff of his own.
    "The government won't be bullied", bellows Dutton, who, himself, is one of the worst bullies going around. His Department's latest stunt is the idea of deporting a 92-year-old Englishman, who served with the Royal Navy in WW2. The man has lived here with his extended family for years, and has been trying for over ten years to get permanent residency.
    It would be a good idea if Malcolm told Dutton (a) to shut up, and (b) that people have the right to express their views and wishes and expect MP's to listen.
    Dutton is one of many MP's who seem to believe that, once elected, they take on the mantle of infallibility and that government of the people, for the people, by the people no longer applies.
    Posted: 19 Mar 2017 16:56

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      Showtime Chief Train Controller

    I heard on this mornings news that Malcolm's approval rating had jumped due to his decision on the Snowy Improvements.
    A lot of people think of the Snow Mountains Hydro Scheme as something akin to the Hoover Dam, but it is really a baby in the scheme of power generators.
    This editorial was in this saturdays edition of the Newcastle Morning Herald

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    Posted: 20 Mar 2017 09:37

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      don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: Adelaide proud
    Malcolm looks set to actually do something (hurrah!) but it's only in relation to watering down the provisions of the notorious Section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act (News.com.au):

    The offences of humiliate and intimidate on the grounds of race are reportedly expected to be retained, but ­“insult” and “offend” will be abolished in favour of a new higher test of “harass”.

    Glad to see that he pulled his finger out and did something... but it's probably all too late.
    Posted: 21 Mar 2017 11:01
      don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: Adelaide proud
    Adele Ferguson writes in Fairfax this morning that it is highly likely someone will cross the floor in the House of Representatives on Thursday when the Senate-backed bill to start a Royal Commission into the activities of the banking industry is tabled (SMH):

    Nationals senator John Williams has agreed to cross the floor, while the Labor Party is also on board. It is now a waiting game...

    ...The bill seeks to appoint a commission to establish the "causal factors for this misconduct, including misaligned incentives, culture, inadequate regulation and regulatory power, and 'moral hazard' extending from government guarantees".

    The Coalition, for its part, is trying to prosecute the argument that self-regulation, beefed-up regulatory powers and bank bosses fronting Parliament twice a year will fix these deep-seated problems. However, as each day goes by and more and more scandals emerge, their arguments are looking increasingly hollow and people are questioning what they are afraid of.

    I have to say, the more resistance there is from the government and the banks themselves, the worse it looks. You have wonder what sort of hold the banks have over Malcolm Turnbull that he won't at least agree to some kind of a scaled-down royal commission with a narrow terms-of-reference.

    This continued obfuscation could be the thing that actually destroys his leadership though, and perhaps his government. All it will take is one Coalition MP in the lower house to decide that they need to be seen to be doing something (Christensen has already publicly stated he thinks a royal commission is essential) and Malcolm's government loses any remaining semblance of unity.
    Posted: 22 Mar 2017 10:09
      don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: Adelaide proud
    Did anyone see that Cory Bernardi and his "party" are going to run for at least two senate spots in the next federal election? (ABC News) I don't know who he thinks he's kidding but he was only ever in the senate by virtue of the fact that he held a lot of sway in the local South Australian Liberal Party and the fact that he's not there any longer mean he's out of the senate. Nobody in South Australia had really even heard of him until recently, let alone voted for him on purpose.
    Posted: 22 Mar 2017 10:34
      Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Norda Fittazroy
    Cory should take note of Einstein:-"There are only two things that are infinite; the universe, and human stupidity, and I'm not too sure about the universe."
    Posted: 22 Mar 2017 15:05

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      Radioman Chief Train Controller

    Hello Don and others

    I will say one thing in favour of Cory, he is good at presenting an argument. I get sent by email his Common Sense running commentary. Whilst I do not agree with what he says , he actually does put up a cogent argument , something that is all to often missing these days .

    ( Common Sense is not relied upon by the scientific community it's because all too often the natural world does not do common sense )

    Being a Melbourne resident all my life I am unaware of his profile in South Australia  so for us non South Australians , Don, kindly explain his background please,

    Best wishes and regards, Radioman
    Posted: 22 Mar 2017 20:35

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      Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Norda Fittazroy
    I will say one thing in favour of Cory, he is good at presenting an argument. I get sent by email his Common Sense running commentary. Whilst I do not agree with what he says , he actually does put up a cogent argument , something that is all to often missing these days .
    "Radioman"
    At the end of the day, if the idea's crap, the argument's crap.
    Posted: 23 Mar 2017 08:52
      don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: Adelaide proud
    Hello Don and others

    I will say one thing in favour of Cory, he is good at presenting an argument. I get sent by email his Common Sense running commentary. Whilst I do not agree with what he says , he actually does put up a cogent argument , something that is all to often missing these days .

    ( Common Sense is not relied upon by the scientific community it's because all too often the natural world does not do common sense )

    Being a Melbourne resident all my life I am unaware of his profile in South Australia  so for us non South Australians , Don, kindly explain his background please,

    Best wishes and regards, Radioman
    Radioman
    Radioman, I have actually spent half my life in Melbourne too so I'm probably not the best person to ask.

    Adelaide (like Melbourne) is not particularly conservative or religious unlike other parts of Australia I've been to and I think Cory just won't have the kind of traction here that he thinks he will get. He's backed by people like Andrew Bolt and also has some kind of financial support from very wealthy donors (apparently) so that will probably get him some air-time. However I think he's way over-estimated how many people here will actually vote for him - being a back-bencher senator he's not really that well known and the local Liberal Party were trying to get him removed from the number one spot on the senate ticket for some time because of some of the loony things that he said.

    I'd be surprised if the Australian Conservative Party get any more than a handful of votes.
    Posted: 23 Mar 2017 12:02
      don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: Adelaide proud
    Malcolm's government plunges to 45/55 in the latest Essential Poll (here).

    How many more polls does Malcolm need to lose for his party...?
    Posted: 23 Mar 2017 13:49
      Radioman Chief Train Controller

    Dear Groundrelay, Don and others ,

    Me Abbott had a grounding in the DLP during his University days. Nifty Nev did a remarkable job in holding the NSW Laboir Party together , no mean feat. The current Sussex St mob allowed the corrupt to run the show and NSW seems to have swapped one lot of corkscrews for another .

    I think the ICAC has done a great service to all of Australia, not just NSW for years now. Nick Greiner established the ICAC , only to crash and burn as a result . He always struck me as a decent bloke stuck with an indecent rabble .

    I often wonder if NSW is just too big to effectively manage as a state . Most Australians are unaware that the NSW Police is one of the largest Police Services in the world and the geographic spread of Sydney and surrounding areas would make a Province or State by itself in most other countries.

    Bob Askin , by all accounts subsequent to his death , made an art form out of corruption and the unintended comedy of Bad Cop , Bad Cop ( it was originally going to be a documentary on the Woods Royal Commission ) indicated the long term damage done to the NSW Police. ( And yes I am aware that the NSW Poloce has a very long history of being plagued with corruption , my late father said they were notorious for it in the 1930s , and they did grow out of the Rum Corps , unfortunately some things just do not change. )

    Best wishes and regards, Radioman
    Posted: 26 Mar 2017 23:54
      lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

    Location: Somewhere you're not
    Another Fairfax Ipsos poll out today, has the ALP surging ahead of the Libs by 55-45 two party preferred , seems that last poll which was taken, and had the ALP on a slight comeback was nothing really, this is getting into dangerous territory now for Malcom, senior heads of the Libs would have to be discussing tactics about a possible Leadership spill for sure

    Kind Regards
    Posted: 27 Mar 2017 14:01
      don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: Adelaide proud
    Malcolm stinks worse than Tony now... I also saw a prediction on the weekend that at current polling the Liberals will lose about 10-15 seats next election. There will be lots of Liberals now thinking about what they can do to try and save the furniture from the impending shipwreak.
    Posted: 27 Mar 2017 14:32
      Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

    Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
    Malcolm stinks worse than Tony now... I also saw a prediction on the weekend that at current polling the Liberals will lose about 10-15 seats next election. There will be lots of Liberals now thinking about what they can do to try and save the furniture from the impending shipwreak.
    don_dunstan

    *insert theme from Titanic here*
    Posted: 27 Mar 2017 14:38
      don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: Adelaide proud
    The problem with Malcolm is that he's even worse than Tony was at promising to do things that you just know he can't or won't deliver on. Case in point - he was in the news today telling us that he's determined to "get to the bottom" of the excessive profit margins and unreliable service delivery by electricity retailers in Australia. Only he's not going to do anything about it until the ACCC have had a chance to write a long-winded report not due for delivery until June or July.

    Mal, buddy - I can tell you right now what the problem is in one word - privatisation. Gold-plating infrastructure while not building any redundancy in to protect consumers, taking the profits overseas instead of re-investing them in the infrastructure. I read somewhere that power prices in Australia have risen 200% in 15 years but that supply has been made less reliable. Duh.

    But do-nothing Malcolm wants to wait for some bloody ACCC report?

    Sack him - sack him now. Dutton, Bishop - anyone but Malcolm.
    Posted: 27 Mar 2017 15:03
      don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: Adelaide proud
    *insert theme from Titanic here*
    Greensleeves
    It would be funny if it wasn't the rest of us being left behind to drown... the people that caused the sinking will be nice and dry in the lifeboats.
    Posted: 27 Mar 2017 15:05
      YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

    Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
    'Only he's not going to do anything about it until the ACCC have had a chance to write a long-winded report not due for delivery until June or July.'

    I thought that I heard on the radio this morning that the ACCC Report was not due for about 18 months ie June or July 2018 !! Maybe I imagined it.................

    'Mal, buddy - I can tell you right now what the problem is in one word - privatisation. Gold-plating infrastructure while not building any redundancy in to protect consumers, taking the profits overseas instead of re-investing them in the infrastructure.'

    I agree about the privatisation bit with no redundancy or additional proper base load capacity and with profits either going overseas or on bonuses. I don't see any 'gold plated infrastructure' around however. All I see are rotten poles at crazy angles propped up with steel sleeves hammered into the ground and bolted into the decaying timber. These poles sometimes come with a little sign saying 'this pole has been inspected and she'll be right' (or words to that effect).  Crying or Very sad
    Posted: 27 Mar 2017 16:04

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      lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

    Location: Somewhere you're not
    So who would be the people to fill Malcom's spot, Morrison, Dutton, Bishop, or would you go with Josh Frydenburg? I reckon the favourites would probably be Morrison or Frydenburg at this stage

    Kind Regards
    Posted: 27 Mar 2017 16:14
      Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

    Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
    So who would be the people to fill Malcom's spot, Morrison, Dutton, Bishop, or would you go with Josh Frydenburg? I reckon the favourites would probably be Morrison or Frydenburg at this stage

    Kind Regards
    lsrailfan
    The Libs won't go for Bishop, Dutton thinks he'd be a good PM but the public wouldn't tolerate him and I'm not certain Morrison would be too well received either.

    I'm starting to wonder whether another spill is actually likely- Turnbull might try for Abbott's line when he was in the barrel that knifing the leader is too "Labor-like" and given the hostile reception given to the new leaders the last few times that was tried...
    Posted: 27 Mar 2017 16:29
      lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

    Location: Somewhere you're not
    Something has to be done , they just can't let this fester, they have to do something!, I blame Malcom fairly and squarely for this, he knifed Abbott , who let's face it was not popular at the time, but Malcom was less so! so I dunno... flip a coin Very Happy
    Posted: 27 Mar 2017 16:44
      YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

    Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
    Morrison is nothing but a pig and a bully and Bishop a smart asre lawyer and media tart. The time is long overdue for a significant change. Try Frydenburg (anybody but what we've got now). Desperate times require desperate measures.
    What have we to lose - apart from our country, our way of life and our standard of living that is ...............................!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It must be time that we had some luck in getting an untarnished PM and by that I don't mean the Shorten sleaze either.
    Posted: 27 Mar 2017 16:58

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      lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

    Location: Somewhere you're not
    Morrison is nothing but a pig and a bully and Bishop a smart asre lawyer and media tart. The time is long overdue for a significant change. Try Frydenburg (anybody but what we've got now). Desperate times require desperate measures.
    What have we to lose - apart from our country, our way of life and our standard of living that is ...............................!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It must be time that we had some luck in getting an untarnished PM and by that I don't mean the Shorten sleaze either.
    YM-Mundrabilla
    Well, you might get Shorten by default if the Fibs do nothing, as things will not change under Malcom's leadership, they will just continue to drift!
    Kind Regards
    Posted: 27 Mar 2017 17:05

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