V/Line Incidents/Disruptions

 
  BrentonGolding Deputy Commissioner

Location: Castlemaine when I'm workin', Maldon when I'm Trainin'
And now delays on Geelong, Ballarat and Bendigo due to a trespasser. Comedy Capers.

BG

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  BrentonGolding Deputy Commissioner

Location: Castlemaine when I'm workin', Maldon when I'm Trainin'
Bendigo line update - my normal service, the 17.30 Southern Cross to Bendigo, is delayed 70 minutes! I guess that it lost its path in all the chaos and it's pretty tight on that line at this time of day. Other services delayed 20 minutes. Glad I'm not travelling tonight, hopefully they fix the track fault by tomorrow.

BG
  BrentonGolding Deputy Commissioner

Location: Castlemaine when I'm workin', Maldon when I'm Trainin'
Well I spoke too soon - the 17.56 Down Bendigo is delayed "approximately 61 minutes" due to the earlier trespasser. So it sounds like the delays might cascade through all of the evening's services. There are going to be some pretty peeved commuters tonight.

Sorry for the multiple posts but I am on the mobile and I think it's important to highlight how frustrating this is - I have had 5 updates from Vline Inform in 2 hours or so,  each time the news gets worse. Over an hour late getting home to the family? I'd be furious. And it's not as if it's a once off problem. This sort of nonsense happens pretty regularly.

BG
  SamTheMan79 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Geelong
This morning's 05:50 Marshall to Southern Cross usual N class loco and N set were replaced with a 3 car V/Locity again. Full by Lara, standees at Wyndham Vale and sardines at Tarneit. Arrived 8 minutes early into Footscray! I wished they drove the timetable that well all the time......
  MetroFemme Chief Train Controller

Raining today on the way in I suspect lots of delays including V/Line?
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

This morning's 05:50 Marshall to Southern Cross usual N class loco and N set were replaced with a 3 car V/Locity again. Full by Lara, standees at Wyndham Vale and sardines at Tarneit. Arrived 8 minutes early into Footscray! I wished they drove the timetable that well all the time......
SamTheMan79
Short V/Los on Ballarat line too.  And V/line explain:
  SamTheMan79 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Geelong
This morning's 05:50 Marshall to Southern Cross usual N class loco and N set were replaced with a 3 car V/Locity again. Full by Lara, standees at Wyndham Vale and sardines at Tarneit. Arrived 8 minutes early into Footscray! I wished they drove the timetable that well all the time......
Short V/Los on Ballarat line too.  And V/line explain:
Carnot
FYI, not knowing Lisa @vline at all, she does a pretty good job replying to the literally hundreds of social media posts at the moment. I hope management are aware of this......
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

A V/lo has carked it at Woodend on an Up Bendigo service this afternoon.  Lots of unscheduled problems at present...
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Well I spoke too soon - the 17.56 Down Bendigo is delayed "approximately 61 minutes" due to the earlier trespasser. So it sounds like the delays might cascade through all of the evening's services. There are going to be some pretty peeved commuters tonight.

Over an hour late getting home to the family? I'd be furious. And it's not as if it's a once off problem. This sort of nonsense happens pretty regularly.

BG
BrentonGolding

To be fair...V/Line can do nothing about trespassers which, once-upon-a-time were ignored. Unfortunately between jumpers and trespassers V/Line has a full time job dealing with obstructions before they have to take into consideration the delays and cascade effects that are caused.

Mike.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Well I spoke too soon - the 17.56 Down Bendigo is delayed "approximately 61 minutes" due to the earlier trespasser. So it sounds like the delays might cascade through all of the evening's services. There are going to be some pretty peeved commuters tonight.

Over an hour late getting home to the family? I'd be furious. And it's not as if it's a once off problem. This sort of nonsense happens pretty regularly.

BG

To be fair...V/Line can do nothing about trespassers which, once-upon-a-time were ignored. Unfortunately between jumpers and trespassers V/Line has a full time job dealing with obstructions before they have to take into consideration the delays and cascade effects that are caused.

Mike.
The Vinelander

Mike I tend to agree but do trespassers actually stay on the tracks or are they reports of a trespasser at some point who has trespassed on the tracks and is gone from the area?  I guess the question is are v/line being too cautious about trespass?
  SamTheMan79 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Geelong
Does anyone have any info with regards to CorSec being engaged to patrol the track on RRL between Davis & Leakes Rd on the down which is also resulting in a temporary speed restriction? Is this because of trespassers?
  BrentonGolding Deputy Commissioner

Location: Castlemaine when I'm workin', Maldon when I'm Trainin'
To be fair...V/Line can do nothing about trespassers which, once-upon-a-time were ignored. Unfortunately between jumpers and trespassers V/Line has a full time job dealing with obstructions before they have to take into consideration the delays and cascade effects that are caused.

Mike.
The Vinelander
True Mike but this is not an isolated incident. I have had major delays twice in the last 3 months due to trespassers, I don't know what the first was doing but the second one had climbed a signal gantry near Gisborne.

Time to start fencing off large sections of line or sections around infrastructure?

Yesterday's incident came on top of an existing disruption due to an axle counter failure. It is just problem after problem after problem.

With the messages coming through this morning about what seem to be rolling stock shortages on the Geelong line and all the problems on the NE you have to wonder why Vline introduced the new timetable with extra services on it this year. I don't know about your Ballarat line but services on the Bendigo have got worse since I started using them around 4 years ago (with the obvious exception of that nightmare RRL works period in the middle). These days I jump on a train almost expecting something to go wrong. And when you are reliant on a train meeting a coach connection to get you home your heart is in your mouth when you are in the hands of Vline.

BG
  BrentonGolding Deputy Commissioner

Location: Castlemaine when I'm workin', Maldon when I'm Trainin'

To be fair...V/Line can do nothing about trespassers which, once-upon-a-time were ignored. Unfortunately between jumpers and trespassers V/Line has a full time job dealing with obstructions before they have to take into consideration the delays and cascade effects that are caused.

Mike.
The Vinelander
I'd be interested to know Mike, as someone who is an advocate of rail travel and the current Victorian Government do you think the VLine is doing a good job? And do you think that the Government is managing VLine well?

BG
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

Personal anecdotal opinion - Bendigo services aren't as reliable or as on-time as 6 years ago when I first started regularly travelling on it.  It seems they're always playing catch-up and barely coping with the rolling stock they currently have.  

Sunbury electrification was a double-edged sword - less crush onboard between Southern Cross and Sunbury a positive, but slower travel times and getting stuck behind a spark the negatives.  

Train reliability is appears to be going backwards.  Track and signal faults probably not hugely different - very weather dependent though.

RRL has improved times somewhat between Sunshine and SCS, especially if coming into platform 15 or 16.  One recent improvement on outbound travel is that I have noticed sparks being occasionally held briefly at Sunshine to prevent V/line delays.
  Tony M. Station Master

Well I spoke too soon - the 17.56 Down Bendigo is delayed "approximately 61 minutes" due to the earlier trespasser. So it sounds like the delays might cascade through all of the evening's services. There are going to be some pretty peeved commuters tonight.

Over an hour late getting home to the family? I'd be furious. And it's not as if it's a once off problem. This sort of nonsense happens pretty regularly.

BG

To be fair...V/Line can do nothing about trespassers which, once-upon-a-time were ignored. Unfortunately between jumpers and trespassers V/Line has a full time job dealing with obstructions before they have to take into consideration the delays and cascade effects that are caused.

Mike.

Mike I tend to agree but do trespassers actually stay on the tracks or are they reports of a trespasser at some point who has trespassed on the tracks and is gone from the area?  I guess the question is are v/line being too cautious about trespass?
bevans
I was at Geelong station last Thursday around 3pm and as I crossed the walkway to platform 3 I was walking behind some sketchy looking gentleman with a Kelpie that he loudly and constantly referred to as his "guide dog". I wasn't exactly confident that he'd be let on the train with the dog (that "guide dog" scam wasn't fooling anyone), but I was surprised when the arriving train crawled towards the platform with its horn blaring - looking towards the up end of the platform (where the gentleman with his Kelpie had headed), I saw that he'd jumped down onto the tracks with his dog and was walking off towards the road to Melbourne, giving us all the finger as he went.

Presumably somebody - perhaps station staff - had told him he couldn't take his dog on the train, and rather than wait he decided to walk home. The train then sat at the station for half an hour while we waited for police to make sure he'd cleared the tracks, even as his partner ran up and down the length of the train shouting for the conductor to tell him that she was on the phone to the gentleman and he'd left the tracks so "why wasn't the [expletive] train moving?"

I'm fairly sure the blame in the case - and this delay held up Geelong trains throughout the peak, as we arrived maybe 40 minutes late and the train after us was held up at Geelong as well - can be put on one particular dickhead. And there's no shortage of them in Geelong.
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

And the fun continues on the Bendigo line this morning.  Although this one looks like Metro's fault:


Incidentally, Nine News Central Vic ran a TV news story last night on the ongoing woes with V/line's Bendigo services...
  BrentonGolding Deputy Commissioner

Location: Castlemaine when I'm workin', Maldon when I'm Trainin'
And the fun continues on the Bendigo line this morning.  Although this one looks like Metro's fault:


Incidentally, Nine News Central Vic ran a TV news story last night on the ongoing woes with V/line's Bendigo services...
Carnot
I had a good run on the 17.30 Bendigo service last night, pretty much on time into Castlemaine after a slow start (full stop before Albion, crawled behind a spark to Watergardens) but the thing that struck me was the lack of passengers. This is purely anecdotal of course but I used to catch this service regularly last year and it was standing room only from Footscray pretty much every week. I have caught it twice in the last 8 days and there have been plenty of free seats.

BG
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

And the fun continues on the Bendigo line this morning.  Although this one looks like Metro's fault:


Incidentally, Nine News Central Vic ran a TV news story last night on the ongoing woes with V/line's Bendigo services...
I had a good run on the 17.30 Bendigo service last night, pretty much on time into Castlemaine after a slow start (full stop before Albion, crawled behind a spark to Watergardens) but the thing that struck me was the lack of passengers. This is purely anecdotal of course but I used to catch this service regularly last year and it was standing room only from Footscray pretty much every week. I have caught it twice in the last 8 days and there have been plenty of free seats.

BG
BrentonGolding
I often catch the 17:56 and it's still usually full with some passengers standing (only a 3 car V/lo).  Perhaps people are working overtime more?

I always catch the flagship express on the Up.  It's got less passengers on it than last year, but not by much.  But if I compare it to driving - the Calder Freeway has been getting worse and worse inbound around Keilor.  I'm sticking to the train, even with the occasional delays.
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

April will be a busy month for maintenance and line shutdowns: http://www.theage.com.au/cqstatic/gv3kau/April-disruptions.pdf
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Interesting to note that in what appear identical arrangements on the Craigieburn line (buses Essendon to Craigieburn) that in the first disruption extra time required is 40 minutes and in the second disruption it is 20 minutes.  

Interesting terminology in the Regional list is the column headed 'Customer behaviour'. !
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

Ballarat line was a disaster this morning.  Track at Caroline Springs is causing grief:

  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
April will be a busy month for maintenance and line shutdowns: http://www.theage.com.au/cqstatic/gv3kau/April-disruptions.pdf
Carnot

Seymour Line really cops it

Seymour line Sunday 2 April - from 9pm each night until first service the next day Friday 7 April CityLink Tulla Widening works Coaches will replace trains between Southern Cross and Craigieburn stations Coaches will stop at all stations Please allow an extra 25 minutes for your journey
  SamTheMan79 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Geelong
April will be a busy month for maintenance and line shutdowns: http://www.theage.com.au/cqstatic/gv3kau/April-disruptions.pdf

Seymour Line really cops it

Seymour line Sunday 2 April - from 9pm each night until first service the next day Friday 7 April CityLink Tulla Widening works Coaches will replace trains between Southern Cross and Craigieburn stations Coaches will stop at all stations Please allow an extra 25 minutes for your journey
bevans
What about Geelong and Warrnambool!!!! All services from Saturday 8th - Sunday 16th! Warrnambool the until the day after!
  BrentonGolding Deputy Commissioner

Location: Castlemaine when I'm workin', Maldon when I'm Trainin'
Today's 15.14 Down Echuca service terminated at Bendigo due to a track fault. Road coaches replaced the service from the Go to Echuca.

BG
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
We all know that 'track fault' is a PTV, V/line and Metro euphemism for not wanting to run a service for any number of reasons but just think for a moment that IF a track fault really is/was a defect in the track it would make the whole network pretty unsafe!

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