Wagga to Albury commuter train proposed

 
Topic moved from News by dthead on 10 Aug 2017 09:43
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Who would deliver the services for the stakeholders V/Line or NSW Trainlink?

Would rollingstock be required and would a VLocity set be a good choice?

Wagga to Albury commuter train proposed

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  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Who would deliver the services for the stakeholders V/Line or NSW Trainlink?

Would rollingstock be required and would a VLocity set be a good choice?

Wagga to Albury commuter train proposed
x31
This Is entirely within NSW boarders, so what's the Victorian Taxpayer got to do with It !
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

Who would deliver the services for the stakeholders V/Line or NSW Trainlink?

Would rollingstock be required and would a VLocity set be a good choice?

Wagga to Albury commuter train proposed
x31

The new regional xpt train might free up enough xplorers to provide this service as well as a daily service to griffith.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
How many commuters currently do the run?

That is the first question to answer here.
  a6et Minister for Railways

How many commuters currently do the run?

That is the first question to answer here.
james.au
I think the answer to that would be 0 as there is no commuter service at the moment.   What would be needed is somehow to get people who reside in either town and who drive to the other location for work, and then ask would they use such a service in preference to driving.

This idea has been suggested before on RP, and seems that this time it has come from other sources.  The biggest problem that could be found is that of the amount of use even a 2 car XPL or similar would provide and get and the cost of such. It would have to run both directions twice a day from what I read, to get to both locations in time for the 9-5 workers, and then get them home after finishing, a big ask really, certainly the prospect of day travelers and shoppers may get some other patronage as well, but if its a commuter service then unless there is enough commuters then its not likely to be very viable.

The option of course could be to have an am service start from Wagga Wagga and run to Albury and return but continue on to Sydney basically as the old Riverina Exp, at the same time a daylight service ex Sydney to run to Albury as the return commuter in the afternoon, then return to Wagg Wagga and stable O/night to commence the next morning.

Even there the problem that may arise is the end that gets a too early start and too late a finish home.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Forget non-existent train...far, far easier and the ability to offer more frequent services by operating a bus.

As there's little or no rail culture in Wagga, there's most likely no argument regarding train Vs bus.

Mike.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
How many commuters currently do the run?

That is the first question to answer here.
I think the answer to that would be 0 as there is no commuter service at the moment.   What would be needed is somehow to get people who reside in either town and who drive to the other location for work, and then ask would they use such a service in preference to driving.

This idea has been suggested before on RP, and seems that this time it has come from other sources.  The biggest problem that could be found is that of the amount of use even a 2 car XPL or similar would provide and get and the cost of such. It would have to run both directions twice a day from what I read, to get to both locations in time for the 9-5 workers, and then get them home after finishing, a big ask really, certainly the prospect of day travelers and shoppers may get some other patronage as well, but if its a commuter service then unless there is enough commuters then its not likely to be very viable.

The option of course could be to have an am service start from Wagga Wagga and run to Albury and return but continue on to Sydney basically as the old Riverina Exp, at the same time a daylight service ex Sydney to run to Albury as the return commuter in the afternoon, then return to Wagg Wagga and stable O/night to commence the next morning.

Even there the problem that may arise is the end that gets a too early start and too late a finish home.
a6et

I meant who drives now?  There would be some, how many?  And as to this creating a commuter market, I'm not sure it will.

Problem with a commuter service though is that it would do nothing for the first mile/last mile(s) at each end.

I get a Wagga-Albury-Melbourne service, and perhaps retimed XPTs somehow(1), but in my view a Wagga-Albury commuter service will just cost lots and won't be well patronised.  


(1) BTW, I'm all for a wholesale revision of the Main South/NESG service pattern, with NSW Trains and VLine essentially merging the routes and making better services for all
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
The option of course could be to have an am service start from Wagga Wagga and run to Albury and return but continue on to Sydney basically as the old Riverina Exp, at the same time a daylight service ex Sydney to run to Albury as the return commuter in the afternoon, then return to Wagg Wagga and stable O/night to commence the next morning.

Even there the problem that may arise is the end that gets a too early start and too late a finish home.
Agreed, the only way for th