Adelaide Rail Museum

 
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Has anyone had experience with donating material to the National Rail Museum in Adelaide, please?

I am currently considering putting much of my 50 odd year old collection of rail material over the side but thought that some of it (mostly Working Timetables, Rule Books etc) might be of use/interest to the Museum. Basically, I am losing interest in the industry and many of the organisations associated with it these days.

The possible donation of some material was my intention until I read the 'Magna Carta' Donation Form which requires not only my identity but no end of certifications relating to copyright, ownership and so on. Clearly, I cannot certify as to the ownership or copyright of material from the 1950s for example as the NSWGR, VR, SAR, CR or WAGR no longer exist. I am no lawyer so it may be that 'over the side' might be the easy way out.

A further concern, is the security of any donated material. If anyone is going to chuck (err recycle) any of my material I want it to be me! Nor do I want any material to be stolen by gunzels which has certainly happened at various times and places over the years.

Before doing anything/nothing I wondered if anyone here on RP had been faced with the same dilemma so far as the Adelaide Museum is concerned, please?

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  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
I have no experience with donating to the NRM, however a visit in 2010 (which I thoroughly enjoyed) indicated that in spite of the word "National" being part of their name they are only interested in SAR and CR. Thus I don't suppose it would be worth donating anything sourced from QGR, NSWGR, VR, TGR, WAGR...
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
I have no experience with donating to the NRM, however a visit in 2010 (which I thoroughly enjoyed) indicated that in spite of the word "National" being part of their name they are only interested in SAR and CR. Thus I don't suppose it would be worth donating anything sourced from QGR, NSWGR, VR, TGR, WAGR...
Graham4405
Thanks Graham4405.

It looks like the only way of donating would be to abandon the stuff anonymously on their doorstep but if one did so they would probably call the Bomb Squad who would blow the material up anyway.

Over the side will be much easier.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
YM, You have a private message Wink
  neillfarmer Locomotive Fireman

Why not give it to your mates? Much better than the local tip.
  CPH8 Station Master

Why not give it to your mates? Much better than the local tip.
neillfarmer
I was involved in another museum in Adelaide which had a collection of railway artifacts, mostly South Australian. When it collapsed the railway assets were offered to the National Railway Museum. One major item, the NRM didn't even bother to collect but merely offered it for sale on line, despite not having an identical item in their collection. Other items of signally equipment were later sold off in a public sale. From my experience, railway museums are much more interested in the "boy's toys" than infrastructure - have you ever seen a decent display of rail? Yet without rail a railway wouldn't exist.

There was a collection of Weekly Notices which the curator fortunately passed on to a suburban library before the collapse.



You might be better off offering your collection to the State Library. They at least might catalogue it and archive it properly.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Thanks Neillfarmer.
I have been out of the mainstream railfan circle for many many years so not really practical, hence the museum attempt.

CPH8,
Your suggestion rather aligns with my Plan B as it tends to confirm an underlying concern that I have had for years so far as rail museums are concerned.

No real hurry so perhaps I will do nothing as I am fairly good at that. Smile
  nscaler69 Assistant Commissioner

Location: There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots.
YM-Mundrabilla try actually contacting them and speaking to them, the only thing about donating stuff to them is 'they have the right to do with as they seem fit', that may mean keeping it or disposing of it. I don't think the 'Magna Carta' bit is as bad as you are making it out to be.
  Valvegear The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Norda Fittazroy
I don't think the 'Magna Carta' bit is as bad as you are making it out to be.
"nscaler69"
Mundrabilla has actually read it; have you?
  CPH8 Station Master

I don't think the 'Magna Carta' bit is as bad as you are making it out to be.
Mundrabilla has actually read it; have you?
Valvegear

Another possibility is the Printed Collectables Society here in Adelaide. As a philatelist myself (read stamp collector), some of my fellows who collect anything not breathing are members of this group. Some years ago I think it was on a Yahoo chat site there was some discussion about railway timetables involving this group.

On the first weekend in May (weekend after next) at the Torrens Parade Ground Drill Hall, there will be the annual philatelic congress, hosted by the Postcard Society. Someone there ought to be able to help you.
  CPH8 Station Master

Correction to my above - the Philatelic Congress date is 6th and 7th of May 10 am to 4 pm at the Drill Hall, Torrens Parade Ground, Adelaide.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Thanks CPH8
Much appreciated
YM
  cpdbear Assistant Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Why not email the curator at the museum and ask if they are interrested in what you have to offer. They already have an extensive timetable collection so it's possible they already have what you have, but may be interrested in other items. The museum sells of items that are surplus to the collection, as it is not feasable to store everything that gets donated. Frequently people offer stuff that is common, not realising the museum is actually interrest in the not so common (like photos and the like, rather than railway rule books and timetables).
  ssaunders Junior Train Controller

Why not email the curator at the museum and ask if they are interrested in what you have to offer. They already have an extensive timetable collection so it's possible they already have what you have, but may be interrested in other items. The museum sells of items that are surplus to the collection, as it is not feasable to store everything that gets donated. Frequently people offer stuff that is common, not realising the museum is actually interrest in the not so common (like photos and the like, rather than railway rule books and timetables).
cpdbear

Or as in one known case the workers at the museum take hom donated slides for their own private collections.

I would not donate to this museum.

ss
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
I've attended several auctions over the years of crazy gunzel collections and it's surprising how much this stuff can be worth - I am not a large collector but I have a few really nice things I've collected including a bronze Alco Australia manufacturing plate from a scrapped SAR diesel and some sixties to eighties books about the Adelaide tram system annotated by a tram driver (not sure who!). Maybe not actually worth a lot but certainly worth hanging onto as an interesting thing in its own right. Museums aren't the only option - lots of people would probably like to own these things.

Not sure whereabouts you actually live but auction houses who may be interested in selling an extensive and diverse collection would include Abbeys and Ainger's Auctions in Melbourne and Small & Whitfield and Scammells Auctions in Adelaide. Feel free to message me if you'd like any other pointers or if you'd like to discuss your collection - I'd be really interested to know what was in there.

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