Melbourne - North East Link Project (Freeway)

 
  kitchgp Train Controller

Planning is underway to complete the "missing link" between the eastern end of the Metropolitan Ring Road and EastLink at Ringwood:

http://northeastlink.vic.gov.au/

Does anyone know if CityLink (Transurban) is entitled to compensation? I've had a look on the net but can't find anything.

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  HardWorkingMan Deputy Commissioner

Location: Echuca
Planning is underway to complete the "missing link" between the eastern end of the Metropolitan Ring Road and EastLink at Ringwood:

http://northeastlink.vic.gov.au/

Does anyone know if CityLink (Transurban) is entitled to compensation? I've had a look on the net but can't find anything.
kitchgp
I don't think so as it incorporates an interchange to their road so will lead to more traffic volumes for them.  They need vehicles to be moving so they can toll more of them.  

Transurban can't change the road (such as add or remove lanes, change ramps etc) without permission and negotiation which is how the agreement gets extended and government money appears to assist to fix the non-toll portions.  Some of the restrictions in the original agreement have been removed and are in the public domain but have never been mentioned in press releases so never reported - the removal of the ban on an airport rail link is one of them. It was removed as part of the negotiations for the Tulla-Calder merge project
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Shorter Western option (Bulleen) or longer Eastern option (Etham)

I suspect the Western option Bulleen to Greensborough Incorporating a major upgrade of the existing Greensborough highway.
  kitchgp Train Controller


I don't think so as it incorporates an interchange to their road so will ...........
"HardWorkingMan"


Thanks. As you say I haven't seen any relaxation of restrictions mentioned in press releases.



Shorter Western option (Bulleen) or longer Eastern option (Eltham)

I suspect the Western option Bulleen to Greensborough Incorporating a major upgrade of the existing Greensborough highway.
"Nightfire"


The Western option will require significant widening of the eastern section of the Eastern Freeway and, if it is possible, the Eastlink tunnels. In the PM peak east-bound traffic already slows to a crawl between Bulleen Road (the proposed joining point) and the Ringwood Interchange. I haven't experienced it, but I would image there is a similar problem in the AM peak for west-bound traffic east of the tunnels on Eastlink and Maroondah Highway. Any connection to Eastlink and Maroondah Highway needs to be east of the tunnels. The Eastern option fulfils this.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
The Western option will require significant widening of the eastern section of the Eastern Freeway and, if it is possible, the Eastlink tunnels. In the PM peak east-bound traffic already slows to a crawl between Bulleen Road (the proposed joining point) and the Ringwood Interchange. I haven't experienced it, but I would image there is a similar problem in the AM peak for west-bound traffic east of the tunnels on Eastlink and Maroondah Highway. Any connection to Eastlink and Maroondah Highway needs to be east of the tunnels. The Eastern option fulfils this.
kitchgp
I see there Is a far Eastern route via Chirnside Park been floated !


New major urban roads will never reduce traffic congestion, only attract more traffic to them.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
The idea must be to out even more traffic onto the ring road which is already a nightmare so how will this project benefit the average punter?

Can't wait to read the doctored business case.

Do these business cases get audited by anyone with a view to understanding if the financials and benefits have been met after build?
  James974 Assistant Commissioner

Even though its a freeway, not all against this project. May as well finish the road link, public transport (e.g. Doncaster rail) would be the better alternative but it would require Metro 2 project to happen. The most logical route is connect the ring road it at Ringwood, then it is actually a proper ring road. Yes it will provide only benefits in short term as more traffic will back it up, means more pressure to build rail in the long awaited Doncaster rail and metro 2 to provide the capacity relieve.

It would relieve local roads in that area and means more people will use public transport instead. Then they are able to put more buses on the local roads since they are less busy. Also they could make provision for the rail tunnel beside the freeway.
  HardWorkingMan Deputy Commissioner

Location: Echuca
unfortunately our planners all seem to think everyone wants to go to the CBD and our current road, rail and tram networks all work on that same assumption.

putting this link in will get all the existing traffic heading from the east/south east to the North or north east off the congested roads to the CBD.

it seems strange that people see an over-full train as a sign of success but an over-full road as a sign of failure yet both are indicators of lack of capacity.

If we could get the single occupant vehicles that don't really need to be there (eg the people that drive to work as they carry a briefcase and a laptop) then those that need vehicles (eg tradesmen with tools, couriers, etc) would have the space to get their jobs done. Being caught in traffic is costing them productivity and money.
  kitchgp Train Controller

I see there Is a far Eastern route via Chirnside Park been floated !
"Nightfire"

Proposed by the trucking industry to eliminate the need for tunnels and allow relatively few dangerous-goods vehicles to use it. For most users it would be the equivalent of making an unnecessary journey from Ringwood to Chirnside Park and back on each trip. (More toll revenue perhaps?)

The idea must be to out even more traffic onto the ring road which is already a nightmare so how will this project benefit the average punter?

Can't wait to read the doctored business case.

Do these business cases get audited by anyone with a view to understanding if the financials and benefits have been met after build?
"x31"

Connects two freeways. At present most traffic uses Greensborough Highway, Rosanna Road, Banksia Street, Bulleen Road and the Eastern Freeway to connect between the Metropolitan Ring Road and Eastlink. As has been reported in the press numerous times, the traffic congestion in this area is some of the worst in Melbourne. Rosanna Road, because of its narrow lanes, is quite dangerous.

The project is on the radar of Infrastructure Victoria and Infrastructure Australia, although both are awaiting the detailed business case. The timeline is for the proposal to be finalised by the end of next year and put to the electorate at the State election, although there is no reason the LNP couldn't take it up should it win. From what I can gather the North-East Link is now back as part of the LNP platform, it having been dropped in the Bailleu days.

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