A group of local politicians have banded together to call on the state and federal governments to put more into Geelong's under-performing passenger rail services.
The group is accusing the Victorian Labor government of failing to deliver a business case or feasibility study for the duplication of the line from Geelong to Warrnambool despite receiving $1 million from the Federal government.
The group is accusing the Victorian Labor government of failing to deliver a business case or feasibility study for the duplication of the line from Geelong to Warrnambool despite receiving $1 million from the Federal government.
Duplication from Geelong to Warrnambool? That was $1 million well spent!
I'm hoping they mean duplication from Geelong to Waurn Ponds.
Ross
We publish news from all sources here even the libs but I do find it interesting this liberal party rally for better services for Geelong commuters comes from the same people who pulled $200+m out of the RRL budget to fund a road no one really wanted.Now you understand. Hear hear. Kite flying at its finest from a party who is about to lose the next Federal Election.
From the Website http://www.fightingforbetterrail.com.au/Nope, nothing but kite flying. Yes because there is an election round the corner.
The Warrnambool - Geelong - Melbourne rail line needs fixing urgently.
Trains to and from Melbourne are overcrowded and unreliable. We need more daily services for Warrnambool and Colac and express peak hour trains between Geelong and Melbourne.
That's why your State and Federal Liberal MPs are fighting for more money for our rail services.
Despite $1m from the Turnbull Government to plan the rail duplication between South Geelong and Waurn Ponds, we have seen no action from State Labor on this project.
While the State is responsible for passenger rail, dedicated Commonwealth funding would help the state plan and fund vital rail upgrades.
That’s why we need your voice, your friends and family to support our petition for better passenger rail.
Sign up now and show your support!
Sarah Henderson MP
Federal Member for Corangamite
The Hon Dan Tehan MP
Federal Member for Wannon
Richard Riordan MP
Member for Polwarth
Roma Britnell MP
Member for South-West Coast
Andrew Katos MP
Member for South Barwon
Simon Ramsay MP
Member for Western Victoria
sounds reasonable.
9034
Isnt it fantastic that the Political Party NOT in power rips into the party IN power and promises to do wonders and work miracles regarding Public Transport if only you elect them into office...............and the worst is we believe them and elect them only for 'THEM' to find every excuse known NOT to do as they promised.......................!!!!!!
Please try and be objective folks. I think we'd all concede that BOTH TEAMS would like to improve country rail services. By all means advocate the policies of the side you support, but intelligent and polite discussion isn't helped by slagging off the kids who hang around on the other side of the playground to cool kids like you.
If you just want to slag of the Libs and Nats, there is a special long running "I hate Malcolm Turnbull even more than you do" thread, where you will feel quite at home.
Yes they accuse Labor failing to deliver a business case for feasibility study but they already put funding planning for it. Means all well they are not against it. Just be patient Liberals, they'll announce it good time, just like the Ballarat rail upgrade. At least Labor had the initiative to start Melbourne Metro project, wonder if they put any funding into that. What they did is said to put money replanning the project, then waste money into the station that would have a bad cost vs benefit ratio using money from the port sale which they owed via an agreement made through asset recycling and then Labor had enough of the excuses and fund the whole project themselves. Let's hope what they say they will do and not make promises they can't keep like this political airport rail line (don't believe them one second)The group is accusing the Victorian Labor government of failing to deliver a business case or feasibility study for the duplication of the line from Geelong to Warrnambool despite receiving $1 million from the Federal government.
Duplication from Geelong to Warrnambool? That was $1 million well spent!
I'm hoping they mean duplication from Geelong to Waurn Ponds.
Ross
... What they did is said to put money replanning the project, then put money into the station in a Liberal seat (south Yarra) using money from the port sale which they owed via an agreement made through asset recycling...Ermm, The inner suburb of South Yarra is in the state seat of Prahran. Like other prosperous inner city areas, Prahran is held by the Green Party, not the Liberal Party.
Oops my bad. Let me change that. Well it did have a bad cost vs benefit ratio. Due to the amount of aquisitions for a direct connection unlikely to happen soon. Although provision has been made whether it is needed later on.... What they did is said to put money replanning the project, then put money into the station in a Liberal seat (south Yarra) using money from the port sale which they owed via an agreement made through asset recycling...Ermm, The inner suburb of South Yarra is in the state seat of Prahran. Like other prosperous inner city areas, Prahran is held by the Green Party, not the Liberal Party.
Please try and be objective folks. I think we'd all concede that BOTH TEAMS would like to improve country rail services. By all means advocate the policies of the side you support, but intelligent and polite discussion isn't helped by slagging off the kids who hang around on the other side of the playground to cool kids like you.Seriously Bogong cram it. Taking lectures from you about impartiality and being objective is laughable, no matter how much you use your patronizing analogies. When posters are criticizing Jacinta Allan, not a peep out of you but every time someone criticizes your beloved coalition you are asking them to be objective. Praising the Coalition for talking about fixing up Albury services and talking about building the Airport line, whilst keeping quiet about the biggest spend on PT this state has ever seen. Not done perfectly I might add, and the deal that they want to do with Transurban is very worrying to say the least but the ALP's effort as regards to PT is a damn sight more than what the Coalition has done. Which quite frankly struggles to meet sweet f.a. You can be rest assured that if the ALP had achieved what the Coalition had done (absolute Jack) then they will be getting all the criticism that they deserve. Who on earth can believe a party who has ripped close to $500 million from Country rail services that they are in any way serious?
If you just want to slag of the Libs and Nats, there is a special long running "I hate Malcolm Turnbull even more than you do" thread, where you will feel quite at home.
... And yet you still refuse to spell Labor correctlyIt's a hangover from my experience with my grade 2 teacher Miss Shaw. I almost topped the class in spelling, but because I spelt words like that in the American style, I came second.
That's fanciful Bogong........ And yet you still refuse to spell Labor correctly
I'm not sure why I'm replying, but perhaps it's because I want to clarify things with people I respect but often differ from like Mike and Mej.What are you talking about. I am a centrist too. Forget about policies regarding Health, National Security, etc, etc, that's for another thread. I am talking about the provision of Public and especially Rail Transport in this state which has been neglected by the ALP and the Coalition for decades. The undeniable fact is that the Coalition in Victoria has done jack, nada nothing and I and others have posted evidence of this and you choose to ignore this whilst having sly digs at Premier Andrews Government for canning the Airport Line, of which to my mind the Coalition was never serious about. So they deserve criticism as would any party that had done nothing for rail like the Coalition have. Yes Bogong sweet f.a. Yes we know that Andrews is very left of centre and some of his policies are on the nose and I am no supporter of his, but we are talking about rail provision in this state and his Government is delivering and the Coalition did not, period.
Personally, I'm a "Centrist". That means that the Labour "Right" faction and Liberal "Moderate" grouping are closest to my thoughts. Philosophically I'm opposed to what I see as extreme Libertarian or Socialist approaches that come from parts of the big political parties and especially from lesser parties like Family First, One Nation and The Greens.
In short, to me politics is no longer Labour v. Liberal, but instead mainstream centrists v. radical populists. You can already see this with the left of the ALP drifting off and joining the Greens and the right of the Coalition like Cory Bernadi and Bob Katter breaking away as well. Increasingly mainstream Labour and Liberal have more in common with each other than they do with the populist political parties.
I reckon that politics is increasingly heading towards a division between the sensible centrists and the more populist and extreme groups who reckon they have all the answers, but don't. So in an American election context, I see the policies of Trump and Bernie Sanders as equally dangerous and would have reluctantly supported the (unlikeable) Hilary, if only because she wouldn't have wrecked the economy.
I also like to see polite and balanced debates without unfair insults. So sometimes I will support a person or cause if they have moderate views and appear to be picked on unfairly.
I'm not sure why I'm replying, but perhaps it's because I want to clarify things with people I respect but often differ from like Mike and Mej.Oh brother!
Personally, I'm a "Centrist". ...
Not quite true, the Murray Basin Rail Project was a Ballieu Government initiative as was the establishment of the PTV and PSOs IIRC (not that I am a fan of PSOs). Depending on who you are listening to at the time there were a few other bits and pieces that were worthwhile but overall more harm than good by some way.The undeniable fact is that the Coalition in Victoria has done jack, nada nothing and I and others have posted evidence of this
Michael
Re-opening and fixing up the Toolamba and Rainbow lines were positives when the LNP were in power. A shame they didn't act on a few other closed lines when they should've (i.e. Dookie, Inglewood, Moulamein, and Robinvale).Not quite true, the Murray Basin Rail Project was a Ballieu Government initiative as was the establishment of the PTV and PSOs IIRC (not that I am a fan of PSOs). Depending on who you are listening to at the time there were a few other bits and pieces that were worthwhile but overall more harm than good by some way.The undeniable fact is that the Coalition in Victoria has done jack, nada nothing and I and others have posted evidence of this
Michael
BG
Re-opening and fixing up the Toolamba and Rainbow lines were positives when the LNP were in power. A shame they didn't act on a few other closed lines when they should've (i.e. Dookie, Inglewood, Moulamein, and Robinvale).
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