Malcolm Turncoat's imploding act

 
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
So it seems that the Liberals are tearing themselves apart on the issue of climate change, at the rate they are going, Bill is deadset  odds to becoming our next  PM Rolling Eyes

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  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
They can't seem to formulate a position and stick to it can they...
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Senator Derryn Hinch uses his time in the senate to (yet again) name people who have been convicted of child sex offences AND connect them to other, unsolved crimes... he's decided that he's a law unto himself.

I don't have enough expletives to express my anger with this well-meaning idiot. He's there to represent the people of Victoria in the Commonwealth parliament, not go off on his lifelong crusade against paedophiles.
  Valvegear The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Norda Fittazroy
I don't have enough expletives to express my anger with this well-meaning idiot. He's there to represent the people of Victoria in the Commonwealth parliament, not go off on his lifelong crusade against paedophiles.
"don_dunstan"
I don't think Hinch would agree with you. His prime ambition was Parliamentary Privilege, and that's what he got  - the ability to name anyone without being sued.
  michaelgm Train Controller

Spot on Valvegear.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
I don't have enough expletives to express my anger with this well-meaning idiot. He's there to represent the people of Victoria in the Commonwealth parliament, not go off on his lifelong crusade against paedophiles.
I don't think Hinch would agree with you. His prime ambition was Parliamentary Privilege, and that's what he got  - the ability to name anyone without being sued.
Valvegear
There is almost certainly the possibility that he has named and shamed innocent people using his privilege but Senator Hinch doesn't give a damn. It's like Judge Dredd, he thinks he can can bring his own style of justice to the nation all by himself. Delusional.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
It's looking more and more like Malcolm's demise might finally come at the hands of (yet another) carbon scheme - as it was the first time around when he lost the Liberal leadership to Tones. As such, Malcolm will delay having to make any kind of decision - of course - until as late as possible (News.com.au):

In fact it could be three months before the Prime Minister reveals what he wants to do with the source of the disquiet — findings by Chief Scientist Alan Finkel on electricity costs and security, and emissions management. Despite the alarms being sounded about the fate of his leadership should the Government favour renewable energy over coal, Mr Turnbull is in no rush. It might be as late as August or September before cabinet decides the Government’s official response to the report and its sensitive chapters on the future of fossil fuels.

Malcolm's dreadful mediocre stewardship of this nation should finish sooner rather than later - what is there to be gained by leaving him there?
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
They have only 1 more week of sitting until the Winter hibernation, no Leadership spill will happen before then, you would think!

Kind Regards
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
They have only 1 more week of sitting until the Winter hibernation, no Leadership spill will happen before then, you would think!

Kind Regards
lsrailfan
Forgot all about that - pollies' winter holidays. I guess it will be July or August before anything happens then...
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
The Australian is reporting this morning that our esteemed former Trade Minister Andrew Robb appears to have actually accepted his current job with a Chinese billionaire the day before the election was held on July 1st last year:

Former ministers are covered by a code of conduct laid out by Mr Turnbull, which says ministers should not lobby, advocate or have meetings with members of the government or public service for 18 months on matters they have dealt with in office.

But apparently his behaviour is still ethical somehow. What a larf, he doesn't even follow the Turnbull government's "code of ministerial conduct" (not by a long shot) and yet his behaviour is still okay.
  Radioman Train Controller

Dear Don and others ,

Malcolm's party problem is that his Parliamentary associates want him as the face of the Government , but are determined not to have Malcolm's viewpoints uncontested . Then you have Barnaby and clean coal  ( clearly an oxymoron ) who claimed on radio that Germany is building a series of new clean coal fired Power Stations, when that is not correct , Germany is completeing a Power Station approved in 2009.

The other point is that there does not appear to be any other electable future leader yet  , though Geoff Hunt, member for Flinders in Victoria , is a possibility. Dutton would be unelectable outside of Queensland , and with respect to Queenslanders, why do they elect him currently ?

Best wishes and regards, Radioman
  michaelgm Train Controller

RE! Dons post above, iPad.

Andrew Robb, nothing to see here
  Valvegear The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Then you have Barnaby and clean coal  ( clearly an oxymoron )
"Radioman"
No. It's a moron with an oxymoron.
  rxclass Junior Train Controller

Location: On the manual turntable at Marino turning an exquisite Rx class steam locomotive.
I don't have enough expletives to express my anger with this well-meaning idiot. He's there to represent the people of Victoria in the Commonwealth parliament, not go off on his lifelong crusade against paedophiles.
I don't think Hinch would agree with you. His prime ambition was Parliamentary Privilege, and that's what he got  - the ability to name anyone without being sued.
Valvegear
G'day All;

Federal Parliament is not called the coward's castle for nothing.

Regards,
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
I don't know how many opinion polls this has been, but the latest one has Labour ahead by 53%-47% on a 2 party preferred basis, I could have just copied my other posts on this issue:roll: , I wonder how long it will be before the dummys in the Liberal Party realize they are heading for an electoral defeat??

Kind Regards
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
I don't know how many opinion polls this has been, but the latest one has Labour ahead by 53%-47% on a 2 party preferred basis, I could have just copied my other posts on this issue:roll: , I wonder how long it will be before the dummys in the Liberal Party realize they are heading for an electoral defeat??

Kind Regards
lsrailfan
When they stop using Donald's catch phrase of "their all Fake Polls"
  Radioman Train Controller

Dear rxclass and others,

Parliament may be called a coward's castle , but Parliamentary Privilege is sometimes the only way that corrupt or incompetent behavoir can be publicly exposed , however it should be used with caution , as people's reputations and people being mis-identified and therefore being placed in jeopardy is a very real risk.

Re the Human Headline , if i recall the Sun in Britain published a list of the names and addresses of convicted sex offenders in the UK some years ago.

One identified person living in Liverpool died within their house which an enraged mob torched it. According to the Police the elderly victim was not convicted of any crime , but his namesake , who lived elsewhere in the UK , was not , nor ever had lived at the address that was published and subsequently torched . Hopefully this will not be repeated here.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Re the Human Headline , if i recall the Sun in Britain published a list of the names and addresses of convicted sex offenders in the UK some years ago.

One identified person living in Liverpool died within their house which an enraged mob torched it. According to the Police the elderly victim was not convicted of any crime , but his namesake , who lived elsewhere in the UK , was not , nor ever had lived at the address that was published and subsequently torched . Hopefully this will not be repeated here.
Radioman
I hadn't heard this story before; it's exactly why the Human Headline should have stuck to his ailing media career instead of going on a single-man crusade in Parliament. Innocent people will get hurt, have their lives destroyed and the Human Headline won't give a damn about the collateral damage. Mistaken identity is also a regular occurrence.

I had the misfortune some years ago in inner Melbourne to be renting a house that was previously tenanted by a small time mobster and after I moved in I had the police (debt collectors, petty crims) banging on my door at all hours accusing me of all sorts of crimes and demanding money. The police were actually quite apologetic when you explained that the last tenant had moved on but the others not so polite, accusing me of being him and refusing to go away.

Once a lynch mob starts against someone it's particularly hard to stop, especially now-days in this age of social media. How does someone accused of paedophilia by the Human Headline get to prove their innocence? In short, they don't.
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

Factional squabbles in both the Liberal Party and Greens this week.

Christopher Pyne drops a hand-grenade and denies that he did: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-26/tony-abbott-christopher-pyne-leadership-gay-marriage-disloyal/8651080

Meanwhile, Greens Party is in all-out civil war mode with the more moderate wing and Bob Brown himself wanting to kick out Comrade Lee Rhiannon of the Stalinist old-guard:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jun/26/bob-brown-endorses-action-lee-rhiannon-greens-turmoil

(Read the comments.  It seems many Guardian readers really are a bunch of reactionary Stalinists!)
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Also much to my surprise Cory Bernardi has managed to keep recruiting state-based MP's to his Australian Conservatives, this time he's got a defector from the DLP (who?) in the Victorian Upper House.

At this rate Malcolm will lose the next election worse than Labor in 2013; maybe by 20 or 25 seats.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Factional squabbles in both the Liberal Party and Greens this week.

Christopher Pyne drops a hand-grenade and denies that he did: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-26/tony-abbott-christopher-pyne-leadership-gay-marriage-disloyal/8651080

Meanwhile, Greens Party is in all-out civil war mode with the more moderate wing and Bob Brown himself wanting to kick out Comrade Lee Rhiannon of the Stalinist old-guard:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jun/26/bob-brown-endorses-action-lee-rhiannon-greens-turmoil

(Read the comments.  It seems many Guardian readers really are a bunch of reactionary Stalinists!)
Carnot
The Greens are finished in Queensland where Pauline has very firmly re-established herself; they are also polling very low here in high-unemployment South Australia where (surprise) Pauline also polls strongly. I wouldn't be surprised if the Greens very public disunity sees the national vote fall to 8% or less at the next election, perhaps relegating them to fourth or fifth. I'm ashamed to admit that I once voted Green, some of the things that people like Lee Rhiannon has to say are downright dangerous and stupid. Do they seriously think that the world could be turned into some kind of pinko socialist Marxist utopia or have they just been smoking too much hooch!

As for the hopelessly incompetent Turnbull factional Liberals, of course Poodles Pyne doesn't vote for Tony the Wreaker, why the big shock with this being out in the open? Turnbull never stopped wanting the top job from the very time that Tones did a deal to tip him out of the job of Opposition Leader, he held the flame for several years and then waited until Tony was weak then got his job back. This thing has morphed into the old Howard/Peacock battle of the late 1980's all over again - the personalities of those two men are taking the centre stage, not the running of the country (unfortunately for us!). I'm starting to wonder if the Liberal Party can even survive the next few years as the dominant party of that side of the duopoly, it wouldn't be the first time since Federation that the conservative side of the house has collapsed into a factional rabble, unable to find common ground in anything. Anyway... who would want to vote for any of those power-mad kleptomaniacs, even my rusted-on Liberal friends are refusing to put them first at the moment.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Corrupt ex-NSW MP Ian McDonald jailed for seven years (News):

Macdonald, 68, got a 10 year sentence but will be eligible for parole in May 2024. His friend, ex-union boss John Maitland, 71, has been jailed for at least four years, and a maximum of six years. Macdonald, the former minister for primary industries and mineral resources, was found guilty in March of two counts of misconduct in public office after he granted a multimillion-dollar coal mining ­licence to Doyles Creek Mining in 2008.


See - they do go to jail - occasionally.
  gippslander Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Gippsland, Vic
Also much to my surprise Cory Bernardi has managed to keep recruiting state-based MP's to his Australian Conservatives, this time he's got a defector from the DLP (who?) in the Victorian Upper House.

At this rate Malcolm will lose the next election worse than Labor in 2013; maybe by 20 or 25 seats.
don_dunstan
It's one thing for Cory to rat on the party that elected him, and then pinch the Victorian DLP MLC.
Let's see what happens when the next election happens and he has to face off the major parties as well as the other
nutbag far right parties. Even with a clever preference fixer, he'll be in trouble.
With the pendulum swinging away from the Tories, he's in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I reckon Mr Pyne would have got a dressing down from the Headmaster after gushing forth after the second scotch at the recent Lib event.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
It's one thing for Cory to rat on the party that elected him, and then pinch the Victorian DLP MLC.
Let's see what happens when the next election happens and he has to face off the major parties as well as the other
nutbag far right parties. Even with a clever preference fixer, he'll be in trouble.
gippslander
It seems unlikely that he will get a senate spot here in SA at the next election but then again Brian Harradine kept getting elected by the people of Tassie for many years... never underestimate the power of these religious fringe people to cobble together deals to keep themselves going.
  nswtrains Deputy Commissioner

It's one thing for Cory to rat on the party that elected him, and then pinch the Victorian DLP MLC.
Let's see what happens when the next election happens and he has to face off the major parties as well as the other
nutbag far right parties. Even with a clever preference fixer, he'll be in trouble.
It seems unlikely that he will get a senate spot here in SA at the next election but then again Brian Harradine kept getting elected by the people of Tassie for many years... never underestimate the power of these religious fringe people to cobble together deals to keep themselves going.
don_dunstan
The trouble with Cory is that it seems he is the only one not to realise he is a nut job. One leading commentator believes he does not have any intellect and I agree. But do any of the extreme right have any intellect? Back to the past; I can see that working;not. As for Tones, there are rumors that the Libs are seeking another candidate for pre-selection for his seat. About time he was put out to pasture. But Malcom should have the ticker to shut him up in the meantime.

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